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Actually an order is illegal if it violates a federal statute or the Constitution. The order also cant ignore a court ruling. A president also cant give an order that exceeds the power Congress has delegated. And, the one Trump seems to ignore constantly. A president cant abuse his authority for personal benefit.
Short list of Trumps illegal orders:
Executive Order 14160: Trump’s order to restrict birth right citizenship. A violation of the 14th amendment, and thus, illegal.
Executive Order 13769: First travel ban targeting several countries. Violation of due process and discrimination protections. Illegal.
Trump issued orders to penalize firms like Perkins Coie, WilmerHale, Jenner & Block, and Susman Godfrey. Illegal order, violating the 1st and 5ft amendments.
DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) executive orders. Blocked because DEI programs werent illegal. So the order to target “illegal” DEI programs was just straight up dumb as fuck.
Federal funding freeze. Violates the separation of powers. A president cant withhold money that Congress has appropriated.
Directive to the Election Assistance Commission to change voter registration rules. A president has no constitutional authority to dictate changes to the ECA.
Prior to the Jan 6 Trump Terrorist Overthrow attempt, he was asked multiple times if he intended to have a peaceful transfer of power.
The same types of “he didn’t mean it” and “he’s the president, he can” arguments were used and then bam! He committed treason that day and most days and we all collectively clutched our pearls. Now we’re letting it happen again but in a worse way.
Maybe clutching pearls and SLAMMING people in the media are completely useless.
What about when they’re “RIPPED!”
Nah, they have to be tOtAlLy TaKeN dOwN!
The US fell back to Renaissance tyrannies in a heartbeat
The king’s order might be lawful according to his laws, but not necessarily according to the constitution?
“When the President does it, that means it is not illegal” - Richard Nixon 1977
Does that make him the legislative or the judicative?
Unitary executive theory (which gained popularity in Nazi Germany, go figure) they literally claim he is above all and beholden to none. So a king but you can’t say you’re king in this country because of our countries historic animosity to kings.
So a king but you can’t say you’re king in this country because of our countries historic animosity to kings.
I think it goes further than that. It takes the cultural tendency to pretend things are great while covering up issues (something that’s especially strong with conservatives). Giving king/dictator an intelligent-sounding pseudoscientific name makes it very easy for their base to stop digging right there.
She has a Voldemort nose
A long philtrum. Like Joe Spano.
Do you see that? That’s the hallmark of totalitarianism: “this one man is the law”.
“Pam, you got a little shit on your nose there.”
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Remember when Nixon said that and it ended his presidency?
Louis XIV: “L’état, c’est moi.”
Nixon: “Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.”
Karoline Leavitt: “Your mom did.”
That’s why Fox News was created in the first place. All those Nixon lickers went to work there to set up propaganda for shitheads and after thirty years - BINGO
If you’re talking about the “If the President does it it’s not illegal” quote, that came from an interview between Nixon and David Frost which occurred after his presidency was already over.
Don’t worry, they’re not. That’s not going to happen.
It has been the unironic goal of conservatism to make sure another Nixon won’t happen by making their presidents above the law.
Yeah. Nowadays it’s just another section of the GOP letterhead.
Pepperidge Farms doesn’t remember, following a settlement out of court for an undisclosed amount.
Why… WHY couldn’t reporter person think of saying that.
They don’t allow reporters in the White House press room anymore.
Then what even is this? Some kind of political humor picture?
It’s a performance. A dog and pony show. A cargo cult facsimile of “press access”. They’re only keeping up appearances until they don’t have to anymore. As in, once everyone has dismissed it as a farce, they can stop with the farce. As long as there are too many remaining who try to take it seriously, who would get people riled up if they just stopped even bothering to PRETEND to have press access, they will keep pretending for the sake of convenience. We all know what’s really happening here. A tourniquet has been secured around this limb and the blood flow has been terminated, and they’re just waiting for it to die, rot, and fall off on its own.
I know that she’s just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.
That being said, could you not lie better? Saying that every order the president gives is lawful is such a 5 year old’s understanding of how the government works. It’s such a naive thing to say.
shes wearing her cross, so yes she was lying.
These people have the mental acuity of 5 year olds so no. And no offense meant to 5 year olds.
“Quiet piggy”, is a typical type of comment from a petulant 5 year old.
You’re not far off. The majority of my sperm donors siblings didn’t finish high school, and are so deep in the MAGA trash, it’s embarrassing to call them relatives…
Don’t let sperm donors in.
These people have the mental acuity of 5 year olds so no
So what does that say about you and your preferred reps if they are getting completely walloped politically by these “5 year olds”. Is the enemy weak or strong?
Pathologizing fascism twists you into these types of knots. The truth is that the fascist we’re currently seeing proliferate are cunning, deliberate, calculating, and effective. Now is not the time to underestimate the enemy.
Fascism is not the result of stupidity, but the result of measurable deterioration of education, social safety nets, wages, transportation, health, etc…
Is the enemy weak or strong?
Their effective propagandists are not just exploiting the weaknesses of their marks and of the system they’re pretending to be a part of, they’ve also been CREATING those weaknesses over the course of over half a century.
Pathologizing fascism twists you into these types of knots
Not with a little more specificity.
It’s a literal cult created with the help of decades and decades of brainwashing and underhanded politics to clear the way.
Like with any effective cult, victims don’t have to be especially stupid or gullible to be sucked in, but the longer they remain in the cult, the more warped their reality and the less acute their capacity for any contrary thought processes becomes.
The truth is that the fascist we’re currently seeing proliferate are cunning, deliberate, calculating, and effective
Yes and no: while it’s almost impossible to determine for sure who’s what due to all the overlap between the swindlers and the swindled, most fascists aren’t inherently especially clever or especially dull, they’re just people who believe awful things, with various amounts of agency over it.
That’s one of the worst parts of it: while some are obviously much more susceptible than others due to their environment, preexisting bigotry, lack of empathy etc, almost nobody is COMPLETELY safe from the fascist brainwashing, given enough time and the right environmental factors.
Now is not the time to underestimate the enemy.
On that we agree 100%
Fascism is not the result of stupidity, but the result of measurable deterioration of education, social safety nets, wages, transportation, health, etc…
Oops, looks like we agreed all along lol. Gonna keep this comment as is, though, since it might help elaborate a bit on what you’re trying to say 🤷
Also 100% not a Christian, but those evangelists don’t seem to be able to see the obvious.
Brother, you’re going to have to conclude that this is a Christian. In fact, he is THE Christian.
They keep showing us that this is Christian behavior and we keep pretending there is some majority of Christians out there that negates the behavior. It’s a myth, the “good” Christian.
“Not a Christian” is simply the “no true Scotsman” fallacy of our times.
They just don’t care, they just think he’ll do shit to help them. Just like how they don’t care that there needs ago be an Armageddon (nuclear or otherwise) in the Middle East for the second coming or rapture or whatever the fuck they believe to happen.
It’s even more sinister than that. She is parroting Nazi propaganda written by Carl Schmitt which claims that the ultimate authority for moral and legal decision resides with the ‘sovereign leader’ and therefore anything that the leader decides is good and legal.
I looked for a first or second degree source to get the exact wording, but they’re all paywalled behind academic journals. Behind the Bastards did a set on him
https://sci-hub.se/ my friend
Nixon / Frost. Close enough.
Bagdad Barbie didn’t get her job by being smart, that’s for sure.
It ain’t her looks either.
She’s like the third lady down the line at a bar.(I know it is her looks. These people just have horrible taste)
Its her loyalty.
After pence didnt carry thru jan 6 the way trump wanted, his number 1 criteria for his cronies is loyalty.
Is that she’s a spoiled brat who’s dad paid for a congressional run in a tiny state, which she lost, but has blond hair so the Trump weirdos had to have her.
she is in the early stages of mar-a-lago face.
I’m sure she’ll get there soon enough, but she’s only in her early twenties I think. The hate seems to prematurely age these assholes. Same with Miller and Cruz and the rest of these ghouls.
Lying badly is the point. They looked at 1984 as a guidebook.
Except that I think they overextended themselves. They jumped there too fast and nobody is buying it.
unfortunately, so many people actually are buying this shit
Everything Obama said was legal because… Gestures to the photo
It’s what fascists believe, and what fascists can do is only limited by what they’re allowed to get away with. So far, that’s been pretty much everything.
I know that she’s just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.
She’s not though. The supreme court says the president is above the law, remember? It is impossible for him to issue an illegal order, because the law does not apply to him. Jeez, get on board with the monarchy already.
SCOTUS ruled he cannot be held accountable when he does something illegal, not that the actions themselves are legal.
Which just goes to show what a stunning piece of shit decision it was.
Nixon said it first. He was also wrong.
That’s about the intellectual level they operate on.
They’re speaking to brain dead MAGA Americans, not anyone who actually lives in reality.
It’s not naive, it’s a lie meant to change the conversation and distort the opinions of people who don’t know better.
If the person representing the government says it, it must be true, right?
They aren’t saying that for people who know better. They don’t care about people who know better. They are saying it for people who don’t. Those are their supporters. Those are the people who can be made into supporters.
Saying that every order the president gives is lawful is such a 5 year old’s understanding of how the government works.
I mean, the Supreme Court ruled that is exactly how the government works.
No, they did not. The ruling was the president cannot be sued for official acts. Any soldier who obeys an illegal order can still be held accountable. Well…in theory.
Warcrimes is what pardons are for. 😒
If they keep saying it enough and nobody stops them, then it’s true
are you there yet America? or is there yet another fascist mark you need to pass before you call for a general strike or at least do a “no king” thingy on a weekday?
“Hi, this is America. We can’t come to the phone right now. Leave your name number and country of origin so we can deport you later. K, thx, bye”
Nope, most Americans are too dumb.
There was a post on Reddit a while back where Americans tried to name as many countries on a world map as they could. Quite a few didn’t even get the United States in the right location. One person labelled Brazil as the United States and the United States as Canada, Canada and Alaska were Alaska.
I just died more inside (if possible).
Idk I’m unemployed technically but I’m calling it the beginning of a general strike. Everyone else needs to get with the program.
America has been fascist since before I was born.
The founding fathers were proto-fascists and created a fully fascist country that proceeded to do tons of fascist things.
Fascism is the dominate form of governance around the entire world. Stop pretending there is some moment of awakening. There is only fascism and more of it.
Why do you think all governments are against Anti-fascists? Hint: because they are all fascist.
Fascism is where the government and corporations merge. Please look at any modern government to see the revolving door between private and public.
Consolidated power with nationalism and scapegoating. Sound familiar? Oh yeah that is all of Europe. Perhaps you can argue the US is a worse form of fascism and I would happily agree.
So please tell me when you will wake the fuck up?
Why do you think all governments
Mine isn’t and has never been. I frankly can’t relate. I think you’re being overly nihilistic over things you’ve imagined.
What is your imaginary non-fascist government?
The very real democratic government of Mexico. We literally just reformed our entire Supreme Court with a transparent vote last year.
Oh God, you are joking right?
Mexico is a vassal state to fascist America. They have been doing the biding of the USA for a very long time. Corruption and nationalism abound in Mexico.
If we want to defeat fascism we have to open our fucking eyes.
I suggest you update your views to the modern era.
First of all, we’ve been having a major political revolution since 2018 with AMLO, even though we weren’t fascist before that, either. It’s popularly referred to as the 4T, and it includes major reforms that have reduced corruption and significantly increased our quality of life. Second of all, the US can kiss our ass, and we’ve demonstrated that within the past year that we’re not going to budge with Sheinbaum in charge, who has taken a defiant stance on many fronts already, even going as far as suing the USA personally.
nationalism
You misunderstand how that manifests in our culture, and I suggest you talk to Mexicans living in Mexico about how they feel about their country before bringing that up. Because if your archetype is the bleeding heart American with guns blazing and draped in a star-spangled flag with a Bible in hand, you’d be wrong and frankly insulting. We have a deep respect for our traditions and our general sense of family, which transcends borders. As the late Costa Rican-born artist Chavela Vargas once said, “We Mexicans are born wherever the fuck we want,” because we’re not exclusive but inclusive.
we have to open our fucking eyes
I also suggest you open your eyes to the rest of the world and stop being a Negative Nancy who’s out to depress everyone. Look abroad. The world is bigger than, and doesn’t revolve around, the US.
I think you need to stop pretending Mexico is not controlled by the US. It is a bad look to deny reality. We cannot fix our problems if you ignore the truth.
The US would roll Mexico over without breaking a sweat, but the truth is they don’t need to. They own Mexico like they own all South America.
Stop pretending that I believe it is all about the US. It is all about the US or more importantly the extremely wealthy people that control it. I don’t believe this, I know it.
You fell for political theatre. You live in a corrupt fascist country. We will never be able to fix this with everyone living in denial.
When you can point out the first country that isn’t producing ever higher income gaps I will maybe believe they aren’t entirely fascist.
oh so this is the new excuse for inaction… got it
So you are not waking the fuck up. Noted.
Jesus fucking christ every time I hear about this person i want to claw a hole in the wall and escape through it.
Same, but in her face.
I mean the courts have already determined that several orders the president has given are illegal.
Yes, but if there are no consequences, does it actually count?
And yet nothing of substance has happened. Fun system we’ve got eh
It’s weird to think I was repeatedly told the US had a system of checks and balances growing up. Another was the supposed inalienable rights, like the fundamental right to free speech. It seems as if everyone has forgotten a few traditional adages over the past year.
severalmost
In my house when we caught the dog munching on cat turds, we would say “leave it”
I don’t know what it is but this woman’s dumb face and little smirks of arrogance send me into a fit of rage every time I see her. I would rather look at Trump’s dumbass face than hers. I can’t wait to never see her again.
It’s because you know she isn’t demented or a sociopath (at least not at the level of der rapist). So she’s just literally talking shit all day long and never faces any repercussions for it.
It’s a life of disgusting hypocrisy and it’s horrifying to watch.
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