• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    America has been fascist since before I was born.

    The founding fathers were proto-fascists and created a fully fascist country that proceeded to do tons of fascist things.

    Fascism is the dominate form of governance around the entire world. Stop pretending there is some moment of awakening. There is only fascism and more of it.

    Why do you think all governments are against Anti-fascists? Hint: because they are all fascist.

    Fascism is where the government and corporations merge. Please look at any modern government to see the revolving door between private and public.

    Consolidated power with nationalism and scapegoating. Sound familiar? Oh yeah that is all of Europe. Perhaps you can argue the US is a worse form of fascism and I would happily agree.

    So please tell me when you will wake the fuck up?

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      14 hours ago

      Why do you think all governments

      Mine isn’t and has never been. I frankly can’t relate. I think you’re being overly nihilistic over things you’ve imagined.

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          13 hours ago

          The very real democratic government of Mexico. We literally just reformed our entire Supreme Court with a transparent vote last year.

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            13 hours ago

            Oh God, you are joking right?

            Mexico is a vassal state to fascist America. They have been doing the biding of the USA for a very long time. Corruption and nationalism abound in Mexico.

            If we want to defeat fascism we have to open our fucking eyes.

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              13 hours ago

              I suggest you update your views to the modern era.

              First of all, we’ve been having a major political revolution since 2018 with AMLO, even though we weren’t fascist before that, either. It’s popularly referred to as the 4T, and it includes major reforms that have reduced corruption and significantly increased our quality of life. Second of all, the US can kiss our ass, and we’ve demonstrated that within the past year that we’re not going to budge with Sheinbaum in charge, who has taken a defiant stance on many fronts already, even going as far as suing the USA personally.

              nationalism

              You misunderstand how that manifests in our culture, and I suggest you talk to Mexicans living in Mexico about how they feel about their country before bringing that up. Because if your archetype is the bleeding heart American with guns blazing and draped in a star-spangled flag with a Bible in hand, you’d be wrong and frankly insulting. We have a deep respect for our traditions and our general sense of family, which transcends borders. As the late Costa Rican-born artist Chavela Vargas once said, “We Mexicans are born wherever the fuck we want,” because we’re not exclusive but inclusive.

              we have to open our fucking eyes

              I also suggest you open your eyes to the rest of the world and stop being a Negative Nancy who’s out to depress everyone. Look abroad. The world is bigger than, and doesn’t revolve around, the US.

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                12 hours ago

                I think you need to stop pretending Mexico is not controlled by the US. It is a bad look to deny reality. We cannot fix our problems if you ignore the truth.

                The US would roll Mexico over without breaking a sweat, but the truth is they don’t need to. They own Mexico like they own all South America.

                Stop pretending that I believe it is all about the US. It is all about the US or more importantly the extremely wealthy people that control it. I don’t believe this, I know it.

                You fell for political theatre. You live in a corrupt fascist country. We will never be able to fix this with everyone living in denial.

                When you can point out the first country that isn’t producing ever higher income gaps I will maybe believe they aren’t entirely fascist.

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                  12 hours ago

                  I’d like ot hear you explain how we’re supposedly controlled by the US. It has no jurisdiction within our borders whatsoever.

                  The US would roll Mexico over without breaking a sweat

                  No shit. No country can compete with the US military complex. And yet it wouldn’t do so diplomatically, and it would lose favor with every country below our borders if they tried to invade.

                  They own Mexico like they own all South America.

                  You mean they’ve sabotaged every country in South America and continue to do some shady shit. I don’t count that as owning anything at all if they have to go around to get what they want.

                  Stop pretending that I believe it is all about the US.

                  Brother, you just said the US owns everything below it.

                  You live in a corrupt fascist country.

                  Prove it. I just said we’ve gone through major reforms. If your view is so small-minded and backwards, you have a lot of catching up to do. We’re not the ones electing wannabe dictators. And we’re currently in the process of expanding our individual rights. I can do many more things outside on the streets than you could ever dream of doing in the US without getting arrested.

                  When you can point out the first country that isn’t producing ever higher income gaps I will maybe believe they aren’t entirely fascist.

                  Sounds like you’re conflating economic systems with political ones and twisting your definitions into pretzels.

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                    11 hours ago

                    I can’t help you brother. Your stuck in the past pretending you are one step into the future. Mexico has had some reforms but it does the United States dirty work everyday while the US enriches the worst in your nation. In every nation. But here is the real killer nations are themselves are bullshit.

                    They have us divided and programmed. I do admire your unfounded enthusiasm and I do wish Mexico the best. I will not try to prove Mexico is a extremely corrupt divided nation who has been used and abused. That is self evident.

                    The only thing that really matters is policy. We can incrementally fix some things. Until we confront where inequality is actually coming from we will all be stuck with a fascist future.