• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 hours ago

    I know that she’s just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.

    That being said, could you not lie better? Saying that every order the president gives is lawful is such a 5 year old’s understanding of how the government works. It’s such a naive thing to say.

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      23 hours ago

      These people have the mental acuity of 5 year olds so no. And no offense meant to 5 year olds.

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        4 hours ago

        “Quiet piggy”, is a typical type of comment from a petulant 5 year old.

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        23 hours ago

        You’re not far off. The majority of my sperm donors siblings didn’t finish high school, and are so deep in the MAGA trash, it’s embarrassing to call them relatives…

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        These people have the mental acuity of 5 year olds so no

        So what does that say about you and your preferred reps if they are getting completely walloped politically by these “5 year olds”. Is the enemy weak or strong?

        Pathologizing fascism twists you into these types of knots. The truth is that the fascist we’re currently seeing proliferate are cunning, deliberate, calculating, and effective. Now is not the time to underestimate the enemy.

        Fascism is not the result of stupidity, but the result of measurable deterioration of education, social safety nets, wages, transportation, health, etc…

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          19 hours ago

          Is the enemy weak or strong?

          Their effective propagandists are not just exploiting the weaknesses of their marks and of the system they’re pretending to be a part of, they’ve also been CREATING those weaknesses over the course of over half a century.

          Pathologizing fascism twists you into these types of knots

          Not with a little more specificity.

          It’s a literal cult created with the help of decades and decades of brainwashing and underhanded politics to clear the way.

          Like with any effective cult, victims don’t have to be especially stupid or gullible to be sucked in, but the longer they remain in the cult, the more warped their reality and the less acute their capacity for any contrary thought processes becomes.

          The truth is that the fascist we’re currently seeing proliferate are cunning, deliberate, calculating, and effective

          Yes and no: while it’s almost impossible to determine for sure who’s what due to all the overlap between the swindlers and the swindled, most fascists aren’t inherently especially clever or especially dull, they’re just people who believe awful things, with various amounts of agency over it.

          That’s one of the worst parts of it: while some are obviously much more susceptible than others due to their environment, preexisting bigotry, lack of empathy etc, almost nobody is COMPLETELY safe from the fascist brainwashing, given enough time and the right environmental factors.

          Now is not the time to underestimate the enemy.

          On that we agree 100%

          Fascism is not the result of stupidity, but the result of measurable deterioration of education, social safety nets, wages, transportation, health, etc…

          Oops, looks like we agreed all along lol. Gonna keep this comment as is, though, since it might help elaborate a bit on what you’re trying to say 🤷

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        Also 100% not a Christian, but those evangelists don’t seem to be able to see the obvious.

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          Brother, you’re going to have to conclude that this is a Christian. In fact, he is THE Christian.

          They keep showing us that this is Christian behavior and we keep pretending there is some majority of Christians out there that negates the behavior. It’s a myth, the “good” Christian.

          “Not a Christian” is simply the “no true Scotsman” fallacy of our times.

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          They just don’t care, they just think he’ll do shit to help them. Just like how they don’t care that there needs ago be an Armageddon (nuclear or otherwise) in the Middle East for the second coming or rapture or whatever the fuck they believe to happen.

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      Bagdad Barbie didn’t get her job by being smart, that’s for sure.

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        It ain’t her looks either.
        She’s like the third lady down the line at a bar.

        (I know it is her looks. These people just have horrible taste)

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          Its her loyalty.

          After pence didnt carry thru jan 6 the way trump wanted, his number 1 criteria for his cronies is loyalty.

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            Is that she’s a spoiled brat who’s dad paid for a congressional run in a tiny state, which she lost, but has blond hair so the Trump weirdos had to have her.

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                I’m sure she’ll get there soon enough, but she’s only in her early twenties I think. The hate seems to prematurely age these assholes. Same with Miller and Cruz and the rest of these ghouls.

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      It’s even more sinister than that. She is parroting Nazi propaganda written by Carl Schmitt which claims that the ultimate authority for moral and legal decision resides with the ‘sovereign leader’ and therefore anything that the leader decides is good and legal.

      I looked for a first or second degree source to get the exact wording, but they’re all paywalled behind academic journals. Behind the Bastards did a set on him

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      23 hours ago

      Lying badly is the point. They looked at 1984 as a guidebook.

      Except that I think they overextended themselves. They jumped there too fast and nobody is buying it.

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      It’s what fascists believe, and what fascists can do is only limited by what they’re allowed to get away with. So far, that’s been pretty much everything.

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      I know that she’s just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.

      She’s not though. The supreme court says the president is above the law, remember? It is impossible for him to issue an illegal order, because the law does not apply to him. Jeez, get on board with the monarchy already.

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        23 hours ago

        SCOTUS ruled he cannot be held accountable when he does something illegal, not that the actions themselves are legal.

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      22 hours ago

      They’re speaking to brain dead MAGA Americans, not anyone who actually lives in reality.

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      It’s not naive, it’s a lie meant to change the conversation and distort the opinions of people who don’t know better.

      If the person representing the government says it, it must be true, right?

      They aren’t saying that for people who know better. They don’t care about people who know better. They are saying it for people who don’t. Those are their supporters. Those are the people who can be made into supporters.

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      Saying that every order the president gives is lawful is such a 5 year old’s understanding of how the government works.

      I mean, the Supreme Court ruled that is exactly how the government works.

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        No, they did not. The ruling was the president cannot be sued for official acts. Any soldier who obeys an illegal order can still be held accountable. Well…in theory.