Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.
I think Canada should be on notice right now. I can’t believe I would ever say such a thing, but as a US citizen it just seems to me like these people have no line they won’t cross.
American propaganda agents should be hunted down and butchered.
Bannon saying he’s gonna give Ireland a trump should get his ass in the space station with Mountbatten.
This is done because there are no consequences, no repercussions. A convicted felon and rapist is in charge instead of in jail. The checks and balances of their system have long since failed.
I’d like to cite the last two definitions given by Shoshanna Zuboff for surveillance capitalism:
7. A movement that aims to impose a new collective order based on total certainty; 8. An expropriation of critical human rights that is best understood as a coup from above: an overthrow of the people’s sovereignty.Too much was based on good will, public outcry and political capital. When MAGA proved they will excuse anything, they doomed the system.
If the system is ever recaptured, we must put stronger checks in. Or suffer the same fate.
Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?
Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.
Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.
Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.
Thanks for the correction.
Just the first step 😔
Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.
As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.
THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.
Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a CommunistThen they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a SocialistThen they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionistThen they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a JewThen they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me- Martin Niemöller
Attacking communists is the first step. That’s where the line needs to be drawn. Not an inch to fascism.
Yes, my opinion can be changed for Mexico, and it would be made in the moment.
Frankly I wish our governments would more openly stand with one another. I would support it 100%
By the way, the words Niemoller wrote refer to internal oppression and disenfranchisement. For any example of an external analogue in the same time period, consider UK agreement with Poland, that eventually pulled them into the war and which they courageously honored and defended. We don’t have such an agreement with Mexico.
I am Mexican Canadian.
Mexico hasn’t forgotten about all the stolen territory. Yes, they call it sale and secession and whatever, it was stolen.
If I put a gun to your head and ask you to sell me a property you have for $10. You are going to do it. I’d say I purchased it. I’m sure you’ll say I stole it.
So, why do disagree?
Because of the wise reflection of “first they came for the…”
Well. If we don’t stand against them taking over Venezuela, who is going to stand with us when they try to take over us (Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the rest)
The manifest Destiny is no joke.
indeed and the Alamo was setup to fail to create an excuse to invade Mexico. There were more Texas-Mexicans defending the Alamo than Caucasians.
I agree on everything you’ve said.
If I may ask, and forgive my ignorance: Am I wrong about Mexico? Is there any room for mutual support? Or is Canada generally an afterthought in Mexico, or worse, not trusted?
US is in NATO so it doesn’t matter, to be honest NATO without US doesn’t exists because it’s EU, UK, US and Canada, that’s why EU wants Canada in and to be honest Canada should join to keep itself inside old union. US is heading towards BRICS right now.
Ironically I think joining BRICS would be a great move for the EU right now, both as an immediate out from the dollar based economic order and to pretty much jam soft power crowbar into BRICS itself that might turn it into a more open economic union and not just Chinas (and Russia playing with an unplugged controllers) sphere of influence.
That said I’m probably missing a TON of nuance that makes my take basic and dumb.
Fuck off Russian shit.
Why would you term Greenland a protectorate? It’s the territory of an ally.
It saddens me that Americans seem to be incapable of understanding even the concept of an ally.
I meant that it is under the NATO umbrella. I have no interest, and I would not support, any Canadian involvement in Greenland beyond our help and support in the face of American aggression.
and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba
Could you provide a source for this claim?
It’s the guys who were shitty owners of plantations ans lackeys of the US
It’s no secret that the US offered free flights to Cubans that disagreed with Castro, and this resulted in a large population of Cuban-Americans that want Cuba to go back to the “Cuba of Yesterday”
No one, absolutely no one will come defend Greenland, not even Denmark. They would have to send F35 to defend it, with their missions entry going through a server… in the US!! (And these geniuses doubled down, ordering more F35 last october, and they just ordered more military equipment from the US!).
No NATO member will declare war to the US.
The only option they would have is to immediately build a military base in Greenland with forces from all European countries, ready to fight. And then, MAYBE Trump will think twice before invading it.
I am just waiting to see the mental gymnastics the regular US people will go through when they will be asked to fight vs EU people and they will just go with it.
Dear Canada:
Issue a warrant for Miller and his fascist wife and abduct them in the middle of the night.
Apparently we will just go with it now.
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The tiny news item a few months ago about Miller and family moving out of his suburban house and onto a military base with the flimsy excuse about feeling threatened by sidewalk chalk doesn’t seem so amusing now.
You don’t get it.
The people posting shit like that WANT TO KILL.
They are bloodthirsty. They are warmongers. They want a bodycount.
There’s nothing more to realize about the joke because it’s not a joke.
America is ruled by murderers.
The only way it’s stops is when the blood lust they seek comes home to roost.
Covid didn’t stop them when it was already in their homes destroying their lungs. This cult scares me, you can’t fight the insanity, it makes them stronger if you do. What do we do?
If you listen to those with no skin in the game, the answer is easy, we’re just lazy, see? What sucks is that this problem is in the final chapters of the story, but many of us who want to do more are fighting the complacent populations of previous and current generations’ inaction. We didn’t make the mess alone, but now it’s all on us to fix it.
To those with that attitude toward the American population, doing what they can to push back, they can go ahead and eat my whole ass. To those of you doing what you can, while balancing your very survival, keep pushing and ignore the fuckers trying to shame you. Every act of resistance, no matter how small, furthers your cause. We need to remember this, always.
They can’t handle a rifle due to medical reasons and their moms told them to be back by dinner.
I’m not sure about this. They’ve got a more than capable military.
But I’m willing to find out where their limit is. Militarily, I suspect it starts at a protracted war of attrition with a determined enemy that looks exactly like them and who pops in and out of unassailable and impassable northern boreal forests and muskeg swamps. Or hides in plain sight in the middle of Toronto. Or hops over the immense border to wreak havoc. No one would be safe, ever.
Economically, I think cutting off hydro, oil and potash would have an enormous effect on their comfort level. For lasting damage, nationalize all strategic resources and seize assets and companies. Raze them if threatened, starting with US assets. Nationalize all IP and patents. Sell all US government debt and send the interest rates sky high.
The weakness the US has is that they are doing this for more power and a comfortable life. They AIM to survive it. Frankly at a certain point I don’t care about that. Our fight is existential, and we have given up on a vision of life after. What matters at that point is the here and now, and that’s it.
The biggest weakness of the US is that Americans hate one another. At the current time another civil war in the US isn’t in my best interests. But future events might change that.
Also, I don’t want to fight Americans in the streets of Toronto. I would be willing to fight Americans in the streets of American cities tho. The American concept of war is something that happens “over there”. How would Americans handle it if war wasn’t just some drone video of a boat in the Caribbean getting hit by a missile?
Hopefully it won’t come to that. But people obsess over troop counts a little too much and don’t think at all about the weakness inherent in American culture. That weakness obviously led to Trump and the general decline of the US. That decline can be either mitigated or exploited. We’ll just have to see how it goes.
I don’t think the average republican is capable in a fight, but I do think they fantasize about ethnic cleansing.
And you really think they are the ones fighting?
They remove social services and the only out for poor people is the army.
Yes and they have a sizable enough of supporters who would turn those guns inwards that just going to the streets armed without proper organization isn’t going to do jack shit. Stop calling for us to just blindly kill each other you fucking dimwits. People talk about how stupid Americans are but dear god is the mirror shattered in them understanding us.
We know it’s not a joke. The three most populated cities in the US are in deep blue states and full of people who don’t want this. For everyone in those cities, it would take days and hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to travel to the White House. Most of us are behind on rent, have had our cars repossessed, don’t make a living wage, don’t have healthcare, and have unsustainable credit card debt.
Outside of a very vocal minority, the American people are overwhelmingly united around the fact that we don’t want this to happen.
However, the American people aren’t in control of the American government, and the American government are overwhelmingly united around corporate interests.
I’m in this photo and I don’t like it :(
There is still hope…
I’d like a faster processor.
Feet first, too.
This is the only answer.
When will the rest of the world ? Not a peep from my shitty governemt here in Australia, we just keep doubling down and buying weapons from the US, nuclear submarines of all the stupid things.
Hey cousin!
We just bought some over the horizon radar from you guys!
Unfortunately we’re also contemplating buying some locked down F35s that are sure to be kill switched by the US when they decide that they want our resources. I think we need to accept that the F35s are not going to happen, and instead get the Gripens. At this point it’s seems like the height of stupidity to trust them, especially with our military hardware.
Locked down planes? Install Arch Linux on them
I fly arch btw
Yeah, that combined with the big servicing challenges for the F35s really makes me think getting them isn’t the right move. For once the glacial pace of Canadian military procurement helped us.
So much money already spent on them for nothing. Brutally wasteful.
In this case we should consider that money spent determining how to avoid giving up our sovereignty.
Hopefully we dodged a bullet.
As is Canadian tradition. It is not even the biggest waste currently in military spending.
You’re gonna need that submarine if you go to war with your biggest trading partner at the behest of America.
Anyone who thinks warmongering, fascism, and terrorism are unAmerican has not read much American history. The U.S.A was founded on genocide, grown on slavery, and has oligarchy baked in to their constitution. Hitler studied the way the U.S. treated indigenous and black people to form his genocide plans, and Israel has built on both the U.S. and Nazi examples for their treatment of Palestine.
The beat goes on.
They also have a history of not giving a fuck and finding excuses to get things done even if it’s bending the rules. When European countries were paying tribute to the Barbary pirates, the US didn’t have a declaration of war but they sent naval boats over essentially with the instructions “don’t start it”. They didn’t start it, and it wasn’t over super quickly, but they did finish it.
What people hear when you say things like this: Ah, so this is business as usual, and while it sucks for the people affected, keeping my head down should continue working to keep me out of trouble. I’m powerless to fix this stuff, anyway, so I should just dissociate and worry about my own problems.
And then they don’t show up for elections…
Ah yes, elections will fix everything in the USA, just vote harder next time.
Just to make what I am saying as clear as I can without someone putting words in my mouth: The existing system is functioning as designed and as it has ALWAYS “worked” , and if the people of the world are going to have a chance to survive they need to destroy the current one, and replace it with one that cares about people and the planet, not just profits.
Well, we have plenty of people on Lemmy who place the blame for this situation on the Americans who didn’t vote for Kamala Harris, as if they weighed the stakes, deliberated, and decided affirmatively that not voting was the correct action. It’s like the people who believe that have never met actual humans. Denial and dissociation ‘works’ very well for us as a psychological defense mechanism.
Now, if we have any hope, we need people to work together to shut down the fascists. I’m just sayin’ that this here is a much better way to put it to motivate them, while telling them that “it’s always been this way” and “the U.S. is simply evil” is a great way to push people back into denial and dissociation.
Americans know. They just don’t have any idea what to do, and no single person can solve the problem.
It might take the world… Going to war.
The world doesn’t need to go to war, it needs to stop being afraid of a major economic downturn.
Stop everything with the US: trade, travel, everything. Deport all Americans back to their native soil. Isolate them, and see how quickly things change.
While we’re at it, do the same with Russia and Israel. And maybe China?
Would it cause a global economic crisis? Probably. But people are already dying—it’s worth it if we can actually end a genocide and a couple wars.
So much this. Just 100% stop all trade with the United States. All of it. And zero travel. Then ban US travel to your country. Give them the isolation they crave.
No, definitely impose sanctions and stop trade, but don’t ban travel. Let the brain drain do its thing.
Some of us do not consent to the actions of this rogue administration, and we don’t crave isolation. Some of us desperately want a way out of this country.
While most of US manufacturing is indeed not so useful anywhere, there are things you can not stop importing.
Software and computer parts are a good example.
Moreover, what’s the problem with Americans travelling to your country?
Software can be made literally anywhere, and computer parts are made in China and other SE Asian countries anyway.
That is not the current situation.
The comment above did not say let’s focus the next 10 years to build a software stack that does not depend on US software. It said let’s immediately stop importing stuff from the US. That is not something you can in a moment substitute without massive disruption.
Computer parts are made in China and Taiwan mostly, sure. But: AMD is American, intel is American, Nvidia is American. Go build a computer without using parts coming from one of these companies.
The comment said nothing about the ban having to be this instant. They said to stop all trade. That could just as well mean, take the necessary steps to stop all trade as feasibly fast as possible. How long do you think it would take for China to be able to export computer hardware directly to the EU if the EU said tomorrow “As soon as you can supply hardware, we will stop all trade with USA”? China is the champion of accelerated manufacturing, they’d be supplying us in a couple of months.
There already is open source software solution for by FAR most software that is used. Most companies don’t actually need proprietary software from USA, they can switch very quickly, especially if they get a deadline in a month to switch everything away from Linux, 'cause then the profits are on the line.
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Don’t deport americans. Some of us want to escape.
Deport all Americans back to their native soil.
I haven’t lived there in a decade and only maintain citizenship to have access to my parents in cases of emergency. Why on earth would you send me back to that hell-hole? All that accomplishes is destroying my family, my business, my wife’s ability to live, etc.
I don’t agree with them, but I do see the logic. Send back a bunch Americans who saw good reason to leave and perhaps they’ll be forced to try to make it more like wherever they fled to.
Or it’s just vindictive “Trump deports people so we deport people” idiocy, idk
but I do see the logic.
I don’t. What are they going to do? A lot of people I know who live abroad have done so for decades and have no living family in the US. All it would do is introduce a bunch of homeless people to the US and destroy lives. I voted against the current administration and disagree with everything they do. Guess they should just make my wife homeless, get my house repossessed, destroy my career, and probably just end with me killing myself because of where I was born. Must be big fans of ICEs work, I guess.
In this hypothetical scenario, maybe you could just renounce your citizenship (and stop paying taxes to the US).
In all cases, retaliation against a fascist regime will destroy lives, but it’s generally the better option. I mean people suggest to stop trading with the US or crash their economy, this is not victimless either.
I plan to renounce but I need to be able to help my parents if they need it. Family comes first here. I do not have to pay taxes, just file them; especially with the weak Japanese yen, I don’t make enough to need to pay anything.
Honestly at this point, I rather see Americans suffer. It would humble them. My country was attacked by US & a lot my fellow citizens committed suicide due to the massive blow from tariffs.
I was too considering it.
Don’t blame the Innocents for the actions of the guilty
That’s exactly what the people being deported from the US are feeling.
The fuck does that have to do with an emigrant that hasn’t lived here in 10 years?
Indeed. It’s terrible and it’s also the reason we don’t visit family in the US (my wife is not a US citizen and barely speaks English). I do not support it, I voted against the current administration, and I have removed as many US companies as possible from my life.
From an EU perspective that sounds like isolationism, I mean the USA, China, Russia, … would basically be forced to trade more between them.
It could work if selective, but we’d need the rest of the world on our side first or it’d just backfire.
Nah. Just start selling the US bonds that backs the US currency. The USD with crash in value.
Most of the people in charge don’t have their value in USD, they have it in material and speculative value. The crash of the USD will hurt everyone but them.
Crashing the USD would be its demise as the global reserve currency, which would evaporate all that speculative value overnight.
Sure, the oligarchs would still have their mansions, bunkers, and bullet-proof SUVs, but their primary source of leverage and influence would be gone. They would become irrelevant.
Would this finally cause the american population enough distress to heave themselves off their armchairs, put down their hotdogs, turn off the TV, and get out the guillotines?
No that idea died when the military became infinitely more advanced than the populace
This is the way.
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and no single person can solve the problem.
That’s a big part of their problem. They keep thinking about individual actions instead of coming together and acting as a group toward a common goal.
Remember what Obama did to Occupy Wall Street? That’s what happens when Americans organize. It’s only worse now.
Yeah well we had “No Kings” and people came together, yet nothing happened. A few million people showed up and then went home.
and then went home.
That’s part of the problem.
Effective protesting isn’t a “one and done” thing.
I agree. And that is why the US is done for. No one is willing to stay until we get what we want… and want is subjective.
Best to pack up and move to another country if they can.
That’s practically impossible for majority of people in the USA. Even to get to Canada is a long, arduous process with lots of trips and cost associated with it if they want you.
Well, being a desirable person does help the process. If you’ll be a drain on their economy, you’re not likely to be accepted.
Which about a third of America is poor, poorly educated, and might not have marketable skills. Canada also seems more focused on bringing in healthcare professionals right now.
No Kings was an absolute fucking joke from the start and everyone there virtue signaling is part of the problem.
Well, I said that back then and everyone on here ripped me a new one 🤷♂️
And a lot of people outside the USA looking in don’t realize the social dynamics. I want to stop this, but a lot needs to happen first as lone wolfing just gets you labeled a terrorists and extra judicially killed.
Organizing also gets you labeled as terrorists. Just ask CAIR, and soon many others.
True enough, but it’s harder to deal with a movement that would be guerilla in its execution compared to going out blasting in a blaze of glory.
But when you suggest things they can do (it starts with s and rhymes with trike) all you get are excuses. I’m personally done letting Americans off the hook.
How do you strike if you’re already unemployed? So many people are already losing their jobs to automation and AI.
Also, one of the most insidious aspects of american healthcare is that by tying it to employment, people become utterly dependent on their employers. They lose a lot of leverage.
How do you risk your livelihood when you have cancer or diabetes and your corporate benefits are the only way you can afford healthcare?
Not to mention, most of the american workforce is not unionized. How do you organize a strike without workers unions?
Plus, there is a precedent in recent history where congress can pass legislation making it illegal for workers to continue a strike. How that doesn’t qualify as forced labor, is beyond me.
So you see, there are many roadblocks to having an effective strike in the US, especially when the american system has been designed over the decades and centuries specifically to advance and protect the interests of the wealthy elite.
It’s not about making excuses, it’s about acknowledging the practical realities that get in the way of progress.
To add to that yeah, there’s a lot of guns in this country. In a lot of people’s hands. Including those OKAY with all this.
And the rittenhouse case shows that in america, you can get away with shooting/murdering protesters, if you’re a white conservative.
But a liberal counter-protester bringing a gun to a trump rally? Not even white privilege will protect you at that point…
There was an antifa member who was killed by US Marshals under Trump’s first term. He wasn’t allowed to surrender, he was killed on the spot.
I and everyone I know is one missed paycheck away from homelessness.
I won’t pretend to know your circumstances, but usually overthrowing dictators requires you to break the law. The work to make that possible starts now.
I agree, but the ability to strike in America was purposefully neutered. The only real way to strike effectively would be, at best, extra-legal, if not outright illegal. It’s not like most of the civilized world. The “leader of the free world” has made it very hard for the citizens to freely stand against it.
The only reason anybody ever had the right to legally strike was due to illegally striking. You’re not worse off than early 20th century trade unionists who literally fought private militias and the military. However, this is what ICE is going to be used for at this rate so y’all don’t have much time.
Except that the US government and corporations have spent the years since convincing the people that there’s a right way to protest, and that it’s by holding signs on a street corner - preferably out of view. This is why MLK was seen as a violent thug during the Civil Rights Movement and is seen as a hero today. Their struggle has been whitewashed to remove what actually happened and turned into an example of changing things the “right way” - by gently asking your oppressors to stop oppressing you. The US is one of the most propagandized populations on the planet. Our children pledge their undying loyalty every morning to the flag that hangs in every classroom. The only other countries on Earth to have done that are North Korea and the Hitler’s Youth program in Nazi Germany.
They’ve also gutted any form of support network for the same reason. The US populace is staunchly anti-union because companies have convinced us that worker’s rights are bad. They’ve made everybody dependent on keeping their job to keep food on the table and a roof over their head, of course, but also to see a doctor if you have a fever. And God forbid it’s anything worse than that. It’s bread and circuses with a dash of the Sword of Damocles.
So not only do we have to convince people to risk their lives to fight a fascist regime and their police force that is armed as well as many countries military, we have to convince the pearl clutchers that snarky taglines on signs aren’t going to solve things, and reconstruct support networks that haven’t existed for over half a century, and prevent the 45% of the population who support the fascists from voluntarily drafting themselves to root out any resistance, if not start shooting them in the streets. The FBI spends half their time putting down white supremacist militias. All they’d have to do is stop doing that and let the Trump regime do the rest by tweeting from the toilet at 3am. Those most likely to take up arms against the system are the same people who support the current system.
The average person isn’t brave enough to risk their life. If they were, we’d see Canadians coming down to burn down the White House again. We’d see Mexicans crossing the southern border. We’d see aid networks forming from other countries to provide support for anybody willing to resist. But we don’t and we won’t. And I don’t mean that in a “other countries should solve American problems” way, but that people in other countries are just as likely to say, “Not my fight, not my problem. Somebody else should deal with it” as Americans are. It’s human nature. If it wasn’t, we’d see more people taking out healthcare CEOs. More people would’ve supported the IRA. We’d have far more examples instead of Blair Mountain and the Haymarket Affair.
It’s easy for the armchair generals of the world to say that Americans should just arm themselves and go to war against the largest military on the planet when it isn’t their necks on the line.
Thank you. Really tired of the whole ‘do something’ when the very system, propaganda machine, and half the population is conditioned to fight their neighbors because of lies about who those neighbors are or what those neighbors believe. We have a population that will attempt a coup over a lie no one can prove with evidence, but support the side lying to them about it all when they’re told to look the other way about this regimes many crimes.
The armchair warriors around the world are tired of the inaction from Americans? Try living here and needing to fight against the fascism while half the country tries to stop you to own the libs. It’s fucking exhausting. I’ve lost friends and family to their bullshit excuses of essentially if they’re not doing anything wrong, then they have nothing to worry about. We’re fucking pissed, too, but short of calling, writing, voting, protesting, and trying to engage and help our communities, what should we do?
It needs to happen regardless, but no, we are worse off than they were. There are a lot more ways to track people, which is one major negative. Back then there weren’t a system designed to prevent and punish striking. Now there is. If it ends up happening at the scale that’s needed to make a difference then there will be fights against private militias and the government again.
There are a lot more ways to track people,
Fair enough.
Back then there weren’t a system designed to prevent and punish striking.
There was, we call it Pinkerton, among others. At least now you can organize out in the open.
then there will be fights against private militias and the government again.
There’s no nonviolent class conflict (which is what this needs to be), but the magnitude of the violence will increase exponentially with time as the fascists consolidate power.
There was, we call it Pinkerton, among others. At least now you can organize out in the open.
No, you can’t. The US is so anti-union that there is a real risk of you getting reported to your boss for mentioning unionizing to your coworkers. They can’t openly fire you for trying to unionize, but most of the US is “at will employment,” which means that they can fire you at any time and don’t need to say why.
This is a real sign
Check out this article: Trump is the biggest union-buster in U.S. history
Fucking shoot me then
Mrdown
Lmao.
One person just about did.
American hero Tommy “iron sights” Crooks?
More like Tommy “crooked sights” Irons
That doesn’t make any sense.
Of course it does.
Personality cults have trouble transitioning to a new leader. North Morea did it, but otherwise it doesn’t really happen often. One aneurysm may be all we need.
We won’t be so lucky. He’s dying in his 90s
I didnt know that Morea was under a cult of personality, though I guess that did apply to some of the Marble Emperor’s in Constantinople with some of the remnants of the Imperial Cult.
Yes I know you meant the Norks.
Any of the SS guys could solve it pretty quick
The country that has spent a couple centuries dining out on its founding national mythology of knowing EXACTLY what to do somehow doesn’t know what to do.
You know what to do- you’re just a bunch of fucking cowards who are more concerned about not risking your relative comfort.
I’m leaving the country. I’m not helping these people.
As I said- cowards.
Spend your life sucking up the privilege that being an American affords you and then turn tail and run while those who can’t run have to stay and suffer.
That’s not being a coward. This country has never done anything for me, why should I do anything for it? What kind of absolute dumb fuck moron would say to themselves, I was born here, so that’s who I am, And that’s all I will ever be!
You sound like a white MAGA chud talking about how white privilege doesn’t exist.
lol.
Canadians? Shit, this should invoke and article 5 of NATO.
You REALLY think any other NATO’s member would lift a finger? Some will just make public statement saying that’s “not following international laws”, some will call for “de-escalation”, but no one will actually declare war to the US. They won’t even send equipment’s support to Denmark, as all they can spare was/is sent to Ukraine.
Similarly, is Canada actively preparing its army to defend Greenland from a US agression? Anyone believes Canada would do anything at all?
NATO doesnt have any articles about one member attacking another.
Seems like an oversight.
Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.
Will nobody rid this poor planet of Stephen Miller?
Miller is this administration’s Himmler.
Trump is the demagogue that controls the masses, they’re the puppeteers controlling him. They KNOW he doesn’t have long so they’re doing what they can in a short amount of time. The USA is now a hostile power in the world and people don’t realize that. What are they going to demand their governments do?
There are many who actually believe the midterms will solve this.
I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.
Oh absolutely. Keep engaging the system, such as it is. But know it won’t be enough. More is required. More that will not be done white knight riding to the rescue.
Yep, vote. 'Cause why not, it won’t make their job easier.
On the other hand, start thinking about escape.
No that’s the thing: If the problem isn’t solved by the midterms, it’s already checkmate. The main goal of an aspiring dictator like Trump is to disable the system’s checks and balances and prepare for their ultimate seizure of power. Thanks to decades of executive overreach most of the groundwork is already in place, so it’s entirely possible that Trump can get to a point where launching a coup is a realistic prospect by the end of the year, in which case he’s just going to do it because he can’t afford to be removed from power or he’ll be thrown in jail.
it’s already there… why do you idiots keep moving the goalpost to justify your inaction?
Don’t worry, they’ll make up for it by endlessly wanking about a glorious revolution that they haven’t even begun to lay the groundwork for, while attacking any attempt to make actual change as “incrementalism”.
I’m gonna vote, too, even though I fully expect to be arrested at some point for TDS because I voted for someone he didn’t endorse.
Ah yes, all the other Mao fans will know your a Mao fan now. And you can congratulate each other on owning the libs in a corner of the internet that’s already way off to the left of the mainstream
Yeah, the mainstream is a great measure of morality these days
I’m not a Mao fan I just think it’s a funny image (and unfortunately topical in today’s world).
“Just joking bro”
LOL
The time for electoral reform was 4 decades ago. Time to go through the motions. Good luck, and good night.
The entire system rested on Americans being American enough to willingly engage in peaceful transfer of power, for 250 years. Now, 66 million voted in a dictator instead. This is what that looks like.
77 million.
I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that. But then it might be too late to do anything else
I wish the midterms were overwith so people could stop hoping for that
They’ll just place their desperate hopes on something else.
Anything to avoid having to actually do something themselves.
Honestly it seems too late already. Let the midterms rip!
the idiots waiting for the midterm will juts push the goal post further
What other options do you propose?
I’m aware the midterms aren’t failsafe, but they’re the closest thing to hope that we have.
And if people make the same mistake as last time by boycotting the vote, then their defeatism will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
if we are relying on legal processes, we wait until midterms, magically retake the house and enough of the senate to impeach and unseat. that places the speaker of the house (not maga) in.
if we are relying on extralegal methods, we really ought to have better operational security than to discuss it on the internet. so…
That’s the thing, you won’t find the resistance units online at all if they’re smart. Can’t even take a turned off cellphone with you, we really should have studied more of the French and Norwegian resistances as well as other countries need to do what they did to Germany in WWII.
Edit: A missed word that changes a lot.
Ofc vote. This isn’t a boycott proposal. But let’s not pretend either.
I’m not pretending it’s likely that we’ll have free and fair elections followed by a peaceful transfer of power, but we’re also not in “no chance in hell” territory yet, and it is our most likely option.
If midterms come and go and it becomes obvious that elections were not both free and fair, or if there is no peaceful transfer of power in accordance with the will of the people as expressed by a free and fair election, then the third and fifth sentences of the Declaration of Independence come into effect.
Until that time, or under more favorable conditions, the fourth sentence of the Declaration applies.
I don’t, but it won’t hurt to voice how people think of the Admin and Congress.
Voicing dissent against the Admin shrinks the permission structure of its actions. Trump feels emboldened if the people have his back, and trepidatious if not.
Trepidation to a child-like tyrant might mean the difference between nuclear launch codes being used or not.
Ultimately elections mean nothing consequential in the US, but that doesn’t mean they can’t influence some politicians.
How’s the polls?
Any polls on what happens if your donald dies before the election in november?
In the medical industry there is a unit called the ICU, the Intensive Care Unit. This is where the ventilators live. A common side remark made by staff, depending on the day, the type of patients there, is that they are vegetable gardeners. Crude, but oftentimes accurate.
90 year old grandmas whose time has come, who have died, but the families are not ready to let go. So, grandma now lays in ICU, with broken ribs from the CPR that brought her back, unconscious, muscles atrophying and body deconditioning to anything but a bed. Brain dead people who are “fighters” who are “gonna pull through”. And so on. Passive bodies, carefully tended and watered in perpetuity, until the ethics committee gets involved or the family runs out of money after insurance runs out. We have this technology.
The question here is, even if Donald Trump dies, will he be allowed to officially die? Or will he become an orange flower in an ICU vegetable garden, tended and watered in perpetuity?
It occurs to me that none of his brain-dead followers will believe that it’s him unless they keep spray tanning a face onto the aforementioned vegetable.
They’d sooner believe it’s an AI fake and the “real” one has been abducted by Antifa, Greenland, Canada, or all of the above.
yes, we already know there are idiots everywhere… I mean, thse are the same idiots that couldn’t be bothered voting last time
Republicans want to add new states and are looking for conservative ones so they can keep control.
Yep. Expect any invasion to be in Alberta. I honestly believe this Canada shit is just ePiC TrOLLiNg by the adolescents in charge of the US government to piss off Canadians and American progressives. I hope I’m not wrong, but I do find comfort in the fact that Canada isn’t a brown/poor people country. We seem to prefer attacking those instead. I don’t know about Greenland, though. I don’t think any of us understand that shit.
