the “cheese” is freeze dried tofu, cashew butter, corn starch, nutritional yeast, soy milk, and vinegar

i live in nyc so i’m expecting the nypd to break down my door and arrest me for committing a hate crime against the entire Italian diaspora any minute now

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    I’m not vegan but do you mind a suggestion? Instead of trying to “hack” a substitute for the cheese, you could try a similar recipe that doesn’t use it.

    Like focaccia. A well made focaccia is amazing, and you can make it with vegan only toppings: dried tomatoes, mushrooms, sliced and smoked seitan, figs, onions, some rosemary, and coarse salt. And lots of good quality olive oil.

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      I was never a huge fan of cheese, and cheese substitutes or at least the ones that i tried are so much worse. Some of them taste well enough, but have a consistency that makes my skin crawl. So i just do no cheese and it’s so much better imo.

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        I’m not vegan but I was at a dinner party once and accidentally picked the vegan cheese platter instead of the normal one. It can’t be that bad, I remember thinking.

        It was. I don’t mind vegan food, there’s a lot I like, but I think they would’ve been better off making something different instead of trying to imitate cheese.

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    I’m generally a lover of all food and a typical mistake I see is people trying make non-vegan dishes vegan.

    There’s just no substituting real cheese on a hot dish. It’s just one of those things.

    However there are plenty of great vegan and vegetarian dishes out there. And in my personal opinion, the simpler they are, the better they taste. No reason to bend over backwards to emulate cheese.

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      I used to make a vegan lasagna that defies this claim. I am not sure I still have the recipe though

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            You replied to a comment about vegan cheese which seemed to imply your lasagna had vegan cheese.

            Without cheese it is a layered pasta dish that should have some other name.

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              I can see how you’d think that but I specifically meant that it wasn’t bad just because it was an analog to lasagna. I don’t need you to believe me that it was good and I am not particularly concerned with what you think it should be called

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                If you didn’t use fake cheese then I am very inclined to believe it was good. There are tons of vegan dishes that I enjoy, just not the ones that have ingredients pretending to be non-vegan ingredients.

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    Godspeed and good luck. You’ll need it!

    Less silly, I’ve heard how hard it is to get vegan cheese into any sort of tasty category. Wonder what it is about dairy that’s so difficult?

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      You can do pretty well by introducing lactobacillus to very thin silken tofu and then aging it like normal cheese, but that’s something that would really be better at a commercial scale and afaik, it’s not really on the market yet.

      I live in Germany and they’ve absolutely nailed vegan cream cheese and have okay vegan shredded melting cheese, but I visited the us last year and the vegan cheese situation was dire. There might be gems out there that I missed, but everything was so expensive and tasted so hollow

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      Keep in mind that there are thousands of cheeses, all with varying methods of being made so trying to emulate any specific kind is going to be extremely difficult.

      Mozzarella, gouda, and queso for example are frequently melted but parmesan and blue cheese would make terrible substitutes for any of those three. Trying to replace any of those with some other substitute is like replacing zucchini with cucumber. Sure, they might look similar but the taste and texture are going to be off.

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    Why go so heavy on the improvised vegan cheese the first time? Tomato and BBQ base layer, onions, pineapple, sweetcorn, mushroom, whatever you like really. Maybe a light sprinkling of vegan cheese at most.

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    Well, you can poison yourself as much as you want. Sounds disgusting, but who knows… Was it good? Because if it was, then you have done everything right – the only important characteristic of the pizza is if it tastes good to the owner.

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    I mix olive oil with nutritional yeast and add some onion and garlic powder + salt and white pepper. It’s quite good! Adding vegan cooking cream will make the taste smoother. I also prefer to dribble the sauce here and there or use spoonfuls instead of spreading evenly. Definitely better than some of the cheese alternatives!