So… I got my diver’s license as soon as I turned 18. It was a very stressful period of my life, and I hated everything about driving. They promised me freedom, but I got shackled.

Passing the exam as a nightmare (took me 3 attempts) and even during the lessons the professor saw how horribly tense I was. I got sick just by thinking about the car.

Once I passed, my family decided that I’d get over my fears by forcing me to drive, every single day, for weeks, with the whole family in the car, yelling, mocking me…

I had several panic attacks that were dismissed as lack of maturity, and I stopped driving. It’s been years.

But now I’m going to have to get better at this due to circumstances, and I’m scared.

I feel that I can’t focus on all the elements of the road, I have a very hard time calculating distances because I’m very short (edit: 1’50m, if that is relevant) and barely see above the wheel, I have to move the seat so close to the wheel that I fear that if one day the airbag jumps, I’ll suffocate. My blind spots seem infinite.

My car is automatic, so no stick to worry about.

If you have read all I wrote, I’ll greatly appreciate any advice or encouragement. Thank you

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    I had a driving instructor who was specialised in people with fear for driving. He actually helped me manage the anxiety while driving. Maybe it’s a good idea to find someone like that and take a few lessons? It’s very common to take lessons again after not having driven for a long time.

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    There is such good advice here. I’ll add a little more.

    Background: I’ve been driving for over 20 years. I used to do long distance drives (8+ hours daily), over mountain passes, fog, rain, snow, darkness, you name it.

    Recently had some of the most stressful times in my life, and I’ve been having panic attacks behind the wheel. This was about 5 months ago, so I’ve worked my, way back to driving 4h in a day in city and on highway.

    What really helped me get back to driving again was starting really slow. I used to be so afraid of even thinking about getting behind the wheel again, so I’d start by just sitting in it. Get comfortable and take as long as you need. Remember - you’re in control. You control, not the car, not your panic. Self talk helped me a lot. Once you overcome this, you level up.

    Next, I had my partner (find someone you trust who is going to support you not make fun or mock you) with me, and we would do short drives on a familiar route that didn’t involve big streets or highways. This way, I can pull over at any time.

    A little thing that did help me was a little heat pack in my pocket or lap. When I felt a panic attack threatening to come on, my hands get cold so I hold on to the heat pack. I’d also remember to breathe deep through my belly, because sometimes I realise I’m taking only shallow breaths through my chest only. My psychologist also mentioned that temperature helps, especially cold… So maybe an ice pack wrapped in a towel on your lap might help too.

    When we do our grocery drives, we take the same route all the time. He wouldn’t ask me to drive, he would always assume that he’s driving, and I’ll ask when I’m ready. This support person shouldn’t be pressuring you at all. You are in control.

    Eventually, you get comfortable with the patterns, and you can slowly move up from that. I’m driving in my own again without heat packs or my partner beside me.

    I’m not too sure about the height thing and what can be safely used, so I’m sorry I can’t provide any suggestions. Someone did say a cushion, and I imagine there are things out there that strap securely to the seat and you’d be able to use safely.

    It’ll take a lot of time, but you can overcome your fears. I felt so helpless and hopeless when I first had to put my car keys down, but it feels so good to have a set of wheels again. It offers so much more freedom. The end goal is being comfortable and confident driving. You are stronger than you think. 💪

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      Thank you very very much. I hope everything is going better for you now ❤️

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    Find some very large empty parking lots to just mess around with. Put outs like paper bags or things that you can run over with your wheels, maybe some water balloons. Practice control and precision. If you find a open enough space there’s no real risk

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    Once I passed, my family decided that I’d get over my fears by forcing me to drive, every single day, for weeks, with the whole family in the car, yelling, mocking me…

    As I’m sure you’re well aware, this is not only a massive dick move, but the worst way possible to “help” someone in your position learn. It’s a training method I actively discourage at work, as someone who’s nervous should be allowed to focus on the task at hand and not have to worry about making their trainer angry. I’m a quality inspector who directly observes and evaluates indivuals performing work, and I’ve found it’s almost always best to back off and remain quiet unless a clear safety issue presents itself. I am utterly and completely baffled by their choices, that was an unforgivably stupid way to handle the situation, and I hope you’re doing okay.

    This is, as others have mentioned, a time to take things in small steps. Drive in off peak hours, small distances, and at average speeds until you build confidence. Adopt a mantra of “slow is smooth, and smooth is fast” as you develop skills and gain confidence in new situations. So long as you’re not impeding traffic, you’re under no obligation to meet or exceed the speed limit, tailgate, run yellow lights, or do any of the other bullshit things sloppy and impatient drivers often do. Worry about yourself and your car, drive defensively, and remember you aren’t responsible for someone getting upset just because you drive safely.

    This isn’t exposure therapy for anxiety, and thrusting someone into a situation that makes them deeply uncomfortable never helps. Instead, think of it as practice and skill development. Confidence and reduced stress will build with time as patterns and skills are reinforced, but only if you develop your abilities at a natural pace instead of forcing the issue.

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      I’m very grateful for your answer. I’m definitely going to take small steps, and they can laugh at me as much as they want.

      At one point my father decided that the best idea was to make me face my fears by forcing me to drive up a mountain, through an old road. This road went both directions but only had enough width for 1 car, and safety fences only at some points.

      I went up decently, but when I had to drive down, the cliffs terrified me and a car was coming from the opposite direction.

      I don’t remember how I got home, and that was the last time I drove.

      I appreciate your concern, thank you, really.

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        Oh my god, that sounds horrendous. I hate driving up single track lanes at the best of times, worse if they are up mountains with potentially large drops each side. Then a car coming the other way. My anxiety is spiking just thinking about it. This is not the way to make somebody more confident! I’ve been driving for around 25 years btw.

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          You make me feel validated and I want to cry from gratefulness. Thank you, thank you.

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    My wife took her license during a stressful time of her life and never really got comfortable driving in “new situations” or the motorway (freeway).

    She took more lessons with a driving instructor. Just because you have your license doesn’t mean you can’t take more driving lessons. It helped her lots.

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    I finally got my license at 27. I HATED driving, found it difficult to multitask and just the constant adrenaline made me miserable.

    I got over it because I had to after moving too far away from work to continue commuting by bike. At first I stuck to driving short, known routes. It eventually becomes muscle memory and the anxiety will lessen. I just wanted to let you know you can do it. It will suck but you’ll get there.

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    General advice: Forcing it rarely helps. Baby steps!

    Driving advice based on the above: Get in your car. Turn the engine on. Move your car a meter forward or back. That’s enough for today.

    Then tomorrow (or some other day, no pressure) move it a bit further.

    At some point you’ll hopefully be comfortable taking it on the road. Do it in the middle of the night, or some other time with minimal traffic. You don’t have to go far, you just have to experience driving on your own terms.

    I hear most anxiety when it comes to driving isn’t so much the act itself, but more to do with other drivers. My idea with the above is to make you at least be comfortable driving on your own, and hopefully you’ll be able to ease into it with the few cars you may encounter.

    And just for the record driving in heavy traffic is awful for experienced drivers too.

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      Huh. I hadn’t thought about simply moving the car a meter forward and back.

      Today I’ll spend some time behind the wheel, to see how I feel.

      Perhaps tomorrow I’ll do the meter thing! Thanks!

      Also, I’m indeed scared of the other drivers. I was a safe driver, but whenever I saw someone on the phone or doing other questionable stuff while driving, my anxiety went off the charts.

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        I don’t have anything more helpful than what others have posted, but I wanted to add that you cannot control the actions of other drivers, but you can watch them and plan for their actions.

        I ride a motorcycle, so I assume other drivers are always trying to kill me (that is an extreme way of putting it, but not inaccurate). Under this assumption, I am constantly scanning the road conditions, signs, traffic flow, and importantly, other vehicles’ behaviour. It sounds like a lot to take in, but with practise it is not so bad.

        Start small - sit behind the wheel in a car park to get used to how things look from that position. I love the suggestion to place paper bags as obstacles when you start moving to improve your perception of space around the car. Typically, people will eventually “extend” their sense of their own body to include the car itself, but that is easier for some people and harder for others.

        Getting back to my original point: when you drive, you are almost driving the cars around you as well, since you should monitor and predict potential issues caused by other drivers. Like “feeling” the car around you, this is also something that comes with practise.

        Most of the time, I leave ample distance between me and other cars and drive a comfortable speed. If someone doesn’t like my pace, they can pass me. Their urgency is not my concern. I watch how cars ahead of me drift and move along the road, how their front wheels are angled at intersections (to predict where they plan to go) and how they navigate around other drivers.

        After a while, based on other cars’ “body language” it will get easier to predict their actions and leave yourself plenty of time to react, or even take a different route to avoid issues.

        Finally, a positive note. Most drivers do not want to damage their expensive car. Around 90% of problem drivers are simply distracted, which is usually something you can predict by their movement, or by any change in traffic flow that might surprise someone not paying attention (curves, road hazards, roundabouts and intersections, highway exits and onramps, etc.).

        Driving is something you can do, and it is a lot of small, quick observations that become part of your technique the more you drive. Start small and practise at your own pace with someone who is supportive.

        If you were comfortable with it, you might be prone to distraction while driving, so use your discomfort as a weapon! It will keep you vigilant and likely be your biggest strength on the road.

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    I really recommend a defensive driving course. You are able to learn with a professional on a closed circuit with controlled conditions and are able to be 1000% safe in being able to test the your limits and learn without any fear of failure or harm. They get plenty of people that are really a wreck behind a wheel and slowly you start to gain confidence and all the things getting in your head and in the way of simply driving become more second nature because of the atmosphere and setup.

    With the things you learn, however little, driving in a road with other cars becomes something you see from a different perspective, a lot of what paralyses you will fall away because you have so much more experience with just driving a car and you will be able to focus on the basics like driving straight and behind other cars within the limits of the rules of the road. If not, at the very least you will find a new passion for vehicles off the road and on a track. It is worth all the money and more and very much a compliment to any traditional driving schools or instructors as it’s putting you IN control.

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    I have pretty bad driving anxiety, not quite as bad as what you describe, but enough that I basically avoid driving as much as possible. I’ve been driving for ~10 years now, and it has not gotten better on its own. I think your best option is to talk to a counselor if you need to drive

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    Just trying is a good first step. You don’t need to finish it. Just try and see how it goes.

    Maybe try to spend time in your car just sitting. Then getting comfortable with your seat position. Then put things around your car to get some imagination of your actual blindspots. Then maybe driving and practicing in empty parking lots.

    Then when you’re actually comfortable maybe get a good instructor who can spend time with you and get you comfortable on the road.

    If it’s not your thing. Then it’s not your thing. That’s cool too.

    Also, if you can talk to a therapist. They can give you some good exercises to calm you down and put things into perspective.

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      Second the suggestion of just sitting in the car noticing what you can see and getting comfortable. Consider practicing some grounding exercises; you have good reason to be upset in a car and that’s a distraction you don’t need.

      Also, many cars are more adjustable than you’d expect. Consider taking awhile to look at everything (mirrors for eg) and play with their positions. You can also sit on a pillow to get some height (though make sure pedals are comfortable).

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    On the “promised me freedom” thing: ever considered a bike? That got me more freedom than a car ever did.

    Then again, that’s Europe. If you live in the US, or just anywhere in the Americas, that won’t work of course

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      I have a bike (a blessing), but the distance I have to cover is too big and I live in a mountainous area with awful weather. Sometimes I pedal against the wind and I remain stationary lmao

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    Others have good advice. But my advice is literally to just go do it (without your family in the car). Pick a place to go and drive there, just on slow neighborhood streets if need be. Just racking up hours behind the wheel is gonna be 90% of the solution.

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      A good place to start would be an industrial area on the weekend when everything is closed. Get someone to drive you there, do some driving in a bit of safety, then get them to drive you back.

      Shopping centre carparks work too if the are closed.

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    My dad, for all of his faults, was an excellent driving instructor. In fact that is probably one of the only situations I can think of where he always kept his cool. It didn’t matter if I made a minor mistake or scared the shit out of him. He would very calmly tell me what I did wrong and that it was ok to make mistakes.

    When I taught my oldest to drive, I approached it the same way. She is a pretty anxious person in general and is absolutely terrified of driving. But, she is actually a very safe and competent driver. It took her 8 attempts (that is not a misprint) to pass the written permit test so don’t feel too bad about that.

    I think the keys (no pun intended) to being a good driver are:

    • Driving defensively. Trust no one. There are a ton of idiots out there who think they alone have the right to use the road. Let 'em pass. It’s better to be alive than to die defending your right of way. Assume no one else can see you and be captain obvious about everything you do. Trust no one.

    • Recognizing that driving is like 90% done by feel. You need to be comfortable in the driver’s seat. By “comfortable” I mean all the important stuff is easily within reach and you have good visibility without having to move around a lot. If this is a problem due to your height then a different, probably smaller, vehicle is in order.

    • Look where you want to go. A mistake beginners often make is looking at the road right in front of them when they should be looking quite a ways up the road. It sounds counter intuitive but your brain is remarkably good at using peripheral vision to keep you on course. This will make your driving much smoother and keep you from weaving back and forth.

    • Practice, practice, practice. You will get better at it but you’re going to have to practice. Find some place where there isn’t a lot of traffic at first. Drive at your level of experience. Don’t try to tackle 10 lane highways if you don’t think you’re ready for it.

    • Panic internally. React externally. Remember I said 90% of driving is done by feel? Knowing how to calmly respond to certain situations and practicing so those responses become automatic habits may save your life. Example: I live in a very hilly area where it snows a whole twice a year but I grew up where it snows a lot so I’m familiar with how to drive on it. Every time we get snow, the ditch going into town will be lined with cars of people who hit a slick spot, panicked, smashed the brakes, and went flying off the road. If I hit a slick spot and start sliding, I’m still going to panic a little. What I’m NOT going to do is touch the brake pedal. I’m going to take my foot off the gas and counter steer to bring the vehicle back under control. I don’t even think about it. It’s just sort of an automatic reflex. And it’s a reflex because I’ve been practicing that maneuver for 20 years.

    You can do this. If my 17 year old, who is afraid of absolutely everything, can be a good driver, you can be a good driver. I believe in you. When you mess up, and you will, don’t beat yourself up. Just imagine old J.T. Cornpone from Lemmy is sitting there right next to you and telling you, “It’s alright but let’s try not to do that next time.”

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      Thank you for such a detailed and sweet answer. I feel a bit braver too!

      The height problem irks me a lot because I can’t buy a new car right now (or in the foreseable future, let’s be honest) and driving while using a cushion feels dangerous.

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        Not sure what the cushions are like where you are but firm is good - you don’t want to be moving around.
        I find that with seats the position creates a lot more comfort than the material/cushioning itself. If you have to stretch to see or reach anything your going to have a bad time.

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    Same advice as for anything I guess, start small/easy and work your way up.

    Familiarize yourself with all the controls of the vehicle, maybe read the manual if that won’t make your anxiety worse. You don’t want to be fumbling for a button when you’re driving.

    Stay off the freeway if you can until you’re more familiar. Practice during non-busy times on non-busy roads.

    Don’t be afraid to pull over and take a breather, especially if someone is tailgating you or something. Don’t let stress make decisions for you on the road. For example, If you are waiting for a safe opening to turn, don’t let the pressure of the line stacking up behind you force you into an unsafe scenario. Be patient.

    Don’t be polite, be predictable!

    If you see a ball roll into the street, there’s going to be a child right after it, be ready to stop.

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        Sure, but its higher speeds and higher stress. You can’t just stop in the middle of the freeway if you need a second to calm down, but you can on a neighborhood back road at 9pm