How’s that independence working out
Blatant is the key word. They are so high on their own narrative that they don’t even try to hide their corruption anymore. After their downfall, we’ll have plenty of material to indict & ultimately lock them away with.
I could be wrong and I admit that I don’t have as a firm grasp of US politics as I’d like, but I really cannot see a situation where anyone is going to be able to control Trump to the point that which they might be able to get him from front of a jury. I can’t see that happening without some level of conflict. He’s already talking about a third term, the only way that doesn’t happen is a rebellion, or him having a heart attack or something.
SURELY THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE EXPORT OF ARMS. SURELY A CHECK OR BALANCS EXISTS. REFUSING THE SALE OF F35S TO CHINA THROUGH SAUDI WILL HAVE BIPARTICIAN SUPPORT.
The AECA contains procedures for congressional joint resolutions of disapproval concerning notified FMS and DCS transactions. Section 36(b)(1) of the AECA prohibits the U.S. government from issuing an LOA if Congress “enacts a joint resolution prohibiting the proposed sale.”
GOOD GOOD WAIT
Congress has never successfully blocked a proposed arms sale via a joint resolution of disapproval.
WAIT
The President has the authority to waive the AECA statutory review periods
Clown government
source https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL31675#_Toc193291696
Everything Trump has done from day one has been treason. For some reason the self appointed patriots don’t mind.
America has concentrated far too much power in the presidency if this is something trump can just decide to do
The Patriot Act of 2001 destroyed checks and balances.
I opposed the Patriot Act because of the lack of checks and balances built into the legislation. Congress was being asked to give the executive enormous authority and then to step back and trust the executive to implement it responsibly.
The Patriot Act, to me, represented unchecked executive power. Congress was giving authorities to law enforcement that they had long requested, even before 9/11, and was agreeing to do so with minimal oversight built into the system.
I recommend to read all they have to say about it.
That said, the whole thing was already prepared and waiting in a drawer for something like 9/11 to happen. The USA was very much Not OK even before that.
No Congress abdicated its duty and so did the Supreme Court. If they were doing their jobs Sit like this wouldn’t happen.
To be fair Supreme Court was taken over by Republicans because the constitution is shit and with partisan SP there was no one to make sure Congress or the President follow the law.
The very fact that Supreme Court justices are politically appointed, for life no less, is so beyond retarded I don’t see how it was ever intended to be a check or balance in the system. How was this ever a good idea?
That’s why I said that US constitution is shit. Modern constitutions solve this in a different way, actually separating the judicial branch. It’s normal that the first constitution didn’t get it right. What’s insane is that US system was never reformed. In other countries people celebrate constitutions that ale just historical documents. In Poland for example “Constitution day” celebrates constitution from 1791 that was used only for couple of years. It would never occur to anyone to actually try to use this constitution today. Yet that’s exactly what US is doing. They can’t comprehend that some documents can be placed in a museum and still be respected.
The answer is relatively simple, the supreme court just kinda gave itself a shit tonne of power early on and nobody stopped them. Also the states were meant to work as a check on federal power as well, if this shit happened pre-1910s there’s a solid chance the president would’ve been shot or otherwise DC would be under siege from Maryland and/or Virginia.
Even if, the courts are there to punish, not prevent. The damage would already have been done.
No, constitutional tribunals decide if new laws are constitutional or not. They can throw away a law even before it’s enacted or applied anywhere. They very much do prevent things.
I mean they don’t physically keep you from committing illegal acts. It’s just words until you’ve done something.
I mean, yes, but if US had a truly independent judicial branch it would be a totally different country today. They only have politicians committing crimes on a daily basis because the system deteriorated over time. Real checks and balances are meant to prevent that.
this is treason
Add it to the pile…
Good thing is, they’re doing it all out in the open. Everything is documented. They might have impunity on their side now, but not forever.
Yep. Now we’re totally going to pursue this, aren’t we. Right?
Of course you guys are.
They’ll get right on it after they’ve done the insurrection treason stuff…and then the traitory stolen top secret documents stuff that were kept in an unlocked ticket next to a fax machine!Ha, just kidding. It’ll all wait until he dies, and then maaaaybeee someone will look into it. And mayyybee a few of the lower echelon of his cronies miiiight get a slap on the wrist about it. Possibly a few fines.
By that time he’ll have sold off even more high tech secrets for more buildings in places where hardly anyone will visit.
Not the first time he acted traitorously and it certainly won’t be the last.
Can’t the Pentagon just NOT do it? Just fucking defy him, or sell them shit fake ones
Most of the career Defence personnel in the Pentagon with spines have already been forced out through purges.
The remaining stafd are loyal to Trump, or likelt have made clear they’ll not risk their jobs raising any concerns or objections.
I don’t think most of the US realises how fucked they are under Trump 2. This is barely 10 months in of a four year term.
Probably but the GOP would call it a coup and fox news would cry.
So I guess it’s time for a coup? Or do Americans need to be fucked even harder by daddy Trump?
He’ll fire everyone and SCOTUS will let him do it
Okay, so let’s get fired! Time to standup to this fuck. Or is it better to commit treason for the baby billionaire? What would happen if he fired all the top brass? He would probably lose control of the army.
Could the OP not think of any reason this would be a bad thing other than China? Not the slave labor? Not the support for autocracies? Not the crimes against humanity? Fucking yanks man.
That said, I have no particular opinion on the China thing, let Trump destroy Western military supremacy; I’ll happily watch.
West != USA
Yeah but F-35 is a NATO-wide program if I understand this stuff right. The F-35 and F-22 are also the only fifth-gen fighters the West has, so the effects of this, if there are any, wouldn’t only be felt by America.
*Other than China being able to reverse-engineer our military tech? I mean, they probably have our building schematics through other means, but isn’t that the main faux pas?
Didn’t China already hack the DoD, or some other contractor, and steal the F-22 or F-35 plans? I swear I read this a few years ago.
but isn’t that the main faux pas?
No, that’s the main faux pas if you’re a US liberal with no care for human life that doesn’t meet a property minimum or resides outside your borders, and not being that I don’t give a shit about China getting access to US military tech. Arming Saudi Arabia is bad because Saudi Arabia is an autocratic imperialist slaver state.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that governments are good, only that he should be in prison.
Why the bullet hit his ear and not his head?!
God guided that bullet. Directly into a retired fire fighter.
If anyone still decides to devote their life to God after this, you’ve really got to start wondering whether this deity is worth your time.
I can accept that god sends non-believers to hell to suffer for eternity, but guiding a bullet to save the president’s life is where I draw the line!
He’s committed treason daily for the last ten years. When are we going to do something about it?
I think Saudi Arabia being, y’know, Saudi Arabia is bad enough without throwing in that “Chinese ally” thing lol.
Saudi Arabia isn’t going to reverse engineer an F35. China will reverse engineer the F35.
Kind of ironic too because as evil as they are, SA are absolutely an American ally as well.
But an ally ideologically (until trump). Previous governments just supported them because of oil.
It’s not just the oil, and this is kind of the key point. It’s also the defense contracts. SA is a huge buyer of American weapons. So the back door deal making has always been a thing. Selling them arms has always been a thing. There’s actually almost nothing that SA and the US agree on ideologically. Of course Trump inserted his own interests into the picture and found a way to enrich himself, and that is truly a new low, and utterly despicable. But let’s not knock him for giving arms to the Saudis as if that’s some new thing. Look, he’s arming a Chinese ally! I mean, come on.
Sorry for calling again but could you please paint “DEATH TO AMERICA” on the jets? We got those new hangars and don’t want to make them all smelly right away.
monarchist nation build on slave labor, that murders political dissidents, queer people and indigenous groups? yea, that’s probably bad or whatever idk,
i mean we did all that too and we’re the good guys yknowchinese ally??? now they’ve crossed a line!!! 😡😡😡
You seem to have repeated yourself a little bit there. Minus the monarchy.
Even that is getting close with trump basically acting as a king
You’d figure a bunch of racists that spent the last twenty years crying about shariah law would a few very specific problems with Saudi Arabia.
remember KUSHNER got 2bn investment funds from the saudis? for giving nuclear secrets.
And also handing over information from US spies on dissidents, even if they were family that just opposed him, so Mohammed Bin Salman could trap them in a hotel and have them all tortured and murdered till there was enough alignment to him.
"The Intercept also reported that Kushner’s information on Saudi royals not loyal to MBS was contained in the President’s Daily Brief, a document presented to the President every morning. Kushner lost his access to the document earlier this year when new security clearance rules were instituted.
Eager to consolidate power and rein in the sprawling orbit of the Saudi royal family and aristocratic class, Prince bin Salman listened intently and a week later cracked down on corruption in the country by imprisoning more than 200 members of the country’s ruling class inside the confines of the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh, charging each with corruption"
Taking a bribe to let China reverse engineer our next generation fighter jet should be the kind of thing that has consequences. That’s going to cost a lot of lives down the road if things go sideways.
It could cost a lot of American lives. Could also save a bunch of Chinese ones.
It could also cost our lives as a US “ally”. Since they are the only fighter jet my country (Holland) is buying. Since China is a strong supporter of Russia it’s sure that they will get access to any countermeasures as well.
IMO we should sell those things and buy something else like the much cheaper alternatives from Europe.
But my country is also becoming pretty fascist and idealises America so they probably will just cave.
At least there’s still countries like Spain who have already cancelled their F-35 order 👏
If you look at the history of military operations performed by both countries, it’s pretty clear which one is the more likely option
Maybe because the other didn’t have the capacity.
China nowadays has the capacity to steamroll half of asia into compliance. Instead they build alliances/partnerships via trade, even with countries they ideologically disagree with. It’s less profitable in the short-term but leads to more predictable and stable development in the region, which benefits them massively in the long-term. Crazy what you can do if you think in centuries and not quarters.
Any other president would have been thrown in a cell, but for Donny and his cult it’s just normal business as usual.
Yes the Trump is made of Trump
The trumpberries taste like trumpberries!
I keep magnifying, but it’s still Trump. It’s Trumps all the way down.
