Please stop buying these & they will stop making them.
Why does a fridge need a screen to begin with?
To justify the constant upcharges. Touchscreens still feel much more luxurious than they’re actually worth. Car manufacturers do the same to save money.
Everyday I’m cyberpunkin’
Your first mistake was buying anything Samsung.
How long before the fridge’s compressor swells up and explodes
I would like to agree, unfortunately Samsung still gives the longest updates on sub 150 euro phones.
But yeah, why does a refrigerator needs a screen in the first place? My white branded fridge must be nearing at least 15 years old, could use new rubber but apart from what still working perfectly.
" finally"? How long you been wanting them?
What’s the fuss about it? It is always nice to have another
screendoom machine around /si think eventually we’re gonna have to deal with the reality that audio/video advertising needs to be outlawed. keep it in print if necessary.
Why does there still need to be advertisements though?
I’d completely ban marketing altogether. Their only purpose is to hack human brains in order to get them to buy stuff they otherwise wouldn’t. They are the reason we have overconsumption.
There are some things I want to know about that may or may not be considered advertising. Stuff like a band I like going on tour, or a video game I’m interested in releasing.
Maybe in your world those could just be like opt-in newsletters.
I disagree. I think that’s far too extreme, there shouldn’t be blanket bans because big tech ruins it for everyone, it harms stuff like minor indie creators or small buisnesses, that being said it needs to be HEAVILY regulated, like fridges should never have ads nor any smart appliance
I don’t think a content provider should be allowed to have more than 5-10% of their content be advertisements.
Website screen space, newspapers, tv channels, etc
Instagram shouldn’t have more than 1-2 sponsored post for every 20 posts. At the moment it seems closer to 10.
An hour long TV slot shouldn’t have more than 3-6 minutes of advertisement. At the moment it’s closer to 20-30.
How about… we go a step further and just stop making appliances “smart”?
My toaster doesn’t need AI to tell the difference between a fucking bagel and a slice of bread. They already figured out solutions to this shit decades ago.
Lots of appliances doesn’t need to be smart, I agree, there are plenty borderline where I think there is some benifit, bulbs for example, I think things should be a lot more local, it’s a shame people use cloud solutions instead of home assistant or how much telemetry these smart appliances are allowed to get.
What about QVC tho
It could be moved onto a special “reservation” where it could continue to live in its own way, with its ancient customs and traditions.
So genocide?
Samsung appliances used to be durable.
I had a Samsung washing machine for about two decades. We deciced to replace it with another Samsung, it already has a big crack in the plastic after a year of use and the top is all scratched just by dragging the clothes out.
Damn, South Korean industry really going the way of American car manufacturing, huh?
Speed Queen, my parents bought one in 1992 and it lasted over 20 years with almost no issues. When it finally started needing regular maintenance mom replaced it and got another Speed Queen, ten years later not a single issue yet.
Washing machines from 10 years ago are not comparable to the washing machines now and their build quality. Even the speed Queen ones from then to now are far different
The spindles holding the baskets are raw aluminum, which corrodes with detergent. They are designed to fail in 7 years. For many companies, you can’t buy the replacement part, and Bosch seals the drum so you can not repair at all.
Now you know to think twice before buying Samsung anything
Samsung recently released UI 8 for Android, which had the astounding forward-thinking and innovative move of removing the ability to silence your phone by hitting the volume down button
idk what phone I’m gonna buy next, but that’s the last straw with Samsung for me. I’m already sick of them changing features on the phone to make them worse, like how in order to do a partial screenshot (a feature I used to use a lot) you now need to click the button and wait a few seconds for the “AI” to think about what portion of the screen to select. you cannot skip this waiting period. you cannot disable this (that I have found). you cannot ‘undo’ when you draw a box around a section that includes text and it tries to helpfully extract the text for you instead of just fucking taking a screenshot of the highlighted portion of the screen
fuck Samsung
a guy at work said graphene has been going pretty good
I like my Motorola it’s on the cheaper side but it has an AUX and a disturbingly good battery. Still android so you have to deal with BS, but hey the slightly better model has an microSD card slot so that’s good I guess.
- Press the power button to silence a ringing phone call.
- You’re not using screenshot and crop, you’re using AI Select, which yeah, is going to try and do more stuff.
- AI select is instant for me, no idea why it’s slow for you
- If you REALLY want to use AI select, and it detects text, press the OCR button to undo OCR and press the save button.
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that doesn’t turn the phone on silent
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yes, they replaced the partial crop with AI select. same method of using it, worse feature
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I’m on a relatively new phone, so it must be because Samsung sucks
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the OCR button doesn’t undo, it just flashes and then reselects the same thing with the text highlighted
maybe mine is buggy. either way, it’s still because Samsung sucks and the feature doesn’t work.
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If you’re that fed up, may as well buy an iPhone and root/flash the thing to a custom OS, or another Samsung, and do the same thing. Those brands have consistently had the best hardware, so if you’re gonna just nuke the software anyway, which is your best option, may as well get the hardware that you want.
Root/flash an iPhone? How?
Jailbreaking is the term for an iPhone, IIRC.
No offense but what world are you living in where you can just install custom firmware on iPhones and Samsungs? I’d love to live in that world but those are two of the worst manufacturers for cfw support
I think Huawei is worse
Can you even root those brands easily?
Not anymore
It’s a smart fridge; they didn’t even think once when they bought it
I don’t know there are a lot of features on a smart fridge that are pretty cool a lot of things that actually can come in handy that I really appreciate it when I considered purchasing one. I’m glad that I didn’t make the purchase before they came out with this idiotic bullshit.
What are said cool features?
I mean for me it was the fact that it was an embedded tablet the fact that you could trade shopping list and automatically send them to your phones so that way you remembered what to get at the store or while you’re at the store items to be added. Capability for attack actually keep track of when stuff is expiring so that way you knew hey you know what I better go buy this even though it’s not on my list because what’s in here is going to be bad things like that. Also do enjoy watching and looking at recipes online having extra counter space and not having a tablet or having to pull my phone out every 30 seconds while looking at recipes or listening to music or even watching a show while I’m cooking on days like Thanksgiving having the football game playing stuff like that. People that are opposed to advancements in technology are often the ones that hold us back. But luckily there are far fewer people that are actually opposed to it and most of them are concentrated to small forms such as this. we can see based on the amount of sales that the vast majority of people do want the smart fridge new on additional features besides just being able to open and close it and keeping stuff cold or frozen.
A refrigerator has to do two things.
- stay cold
- turn on a light when I open the door
I want my fridge to be as dumb as possible.
I hate embedded smart stuff in devices in general as they always get support dropped way too soon (and often enshittified with updates as demonstrated), but as a concept a fridge that would keep track what’s in it, their expiration dates, and auto-updated a shopping list when something is used up would actually be really handy.
Wanted to make some pasta few nights back but I was out of cheese and the cream had expired, so instant noodles for dinner it was. Again.
Imagine that. You not only paid for the refrigerator, but also the electricity and the internet access. And it uses all of that stuff to display ads to you. You’re literally paying for every ad it shows you.
You not only paid for the refrigerator, but also the electricity and the internet access.
That’s a good point actually. You can eliminate these ads by taking it off the Wi-Fi.
Why you’d connect it to the internet in the first place is a mystery to me
That’s exactly the thing that turned me off cable. I’m not interested in paying for a service that’s going to pipe ads into my home. OTA TV, fine, I’m not paying for that. When I can pay for services that don’t show me ads, why would I pay for one that does?
When I can pay for services that don’t show me ads, why would I pay for one that does?
Don’t worry, they are gradually taking that option away too.
Then the answer becomes to get those things without paying someone to show you ads.
When the illegal choice becomes the objective best experience, you’re just a savvy consumer.
I arrgree
Joke’s on you: product placement in movies. The ads are already there.
Yeah, but you end up paying extra to not see ads, so… it’s the same thing either way.
So? If I’m paying for a thing, I’ll sooner pay for a thing that doesn’t have ads than one that does.
When that fails, there’s always the high seas.
True enough!
If you paid me just 5 bucks a month I’d let them install that fridge in my house.
Yeah, I might accept that.
Actually, I could use a new fridge…
Ok, who wants to pay me a subscription fee to give me a fridge? Get in line, I’ll only be accepting applicants today!
you can use a hammer
I’m ready to move to a commune. But like… not a hippie Luddite commune that shirks all technology. Just one that isn’t fucking insane about the tech in their lives. basically one that rewinds a bit back towards maybe the early to mid 2000s. Where we had a of the tech in a still mostly uncorrupted form.
Its like “the village” for people who are utterly exhausted by corporate greed. Someone get M. Night Shammalamma or whatever on the phone.
I work in tech, and literally have had this conversation multiple times with my other friends that work in tech. We are all completely exhausted.
An interesting, to me, aside: The luddites were not, as is commonly taught, anti-technology. They were protesting against the consolidation of money/power that technology was making possible. We don’t want to teach class warfare though.
Thank god fridges have ads now. I have been so unhappy not knowing what to purchase every day of my life. Now my fridge can tell me all the things I should purchase to fill up my home and go so deep into debt that I will be homeless. Thanks Samsung, I was too stupid to do this without you. . . . /s
You can have the Times Square experience right from home!
Tragically, some marketing dipshits and more than a few executives had this exact same thoughts about us without the /s.
That thing would already have a broken cracked screen if that was mine and it started displaying ads.
What a fucking dystopia
You probably wouldn’t make the initial mistake of buying a fridge with a fixed tablet
I still haven’t understood why people bought those. What it does a screen in my fucking fridge do any good for me?
What it does a screen in my fucking fridge do any good for me?
What else are you going to play Doom on?
On my calculator.
Literally any other electronic device?
Fair point
I hear people type grocery lists or that kind of stuff into them imstead of having a magnet whiteboard.
No idea, I would never buy one with a screen. An icemaker and water dispenser is as fancy as I am willing to go.
The icemaker and water dispenser are always the first things to break too. Fuck all that shit, just give me a box that stays cold with a light that works.
Ice trays last 20+ years. And you can fill them with flavored water or yogurt.
I get that, but it is so damn convenient to just put a cup in the dispenser and have the fridge put ice in it.
Mmmm microplastics 🤤
You know ice cube trays are usually rubber right?
My wife picked an LG as our last fridge and the first thing to go was the compressor and the second thing to go was the compressor again. The water dispenser and icemaker held up fine :)
The water stuff is certainly the most likely to go, but I’ve had pretty good luck so far.
An icemaker and water dispenser is as fancy as I am willing to go.
And even that’s a stretch!
That’s what I have a phone for.
But yeah, probably. And knowing Samsung, you would probably need a Samsung phone for the app sync.
My fridge has an ice maker. I fill the little trays with water and put them in the freezer and they turn into ice. Works great.
Real, we have notes on our phone off we’re in a pinch but we usually use a physical note book
Built in closed source Grocy, I assume?
Some have cameras on the inside that let you view the contents without opening it. Some have AI that use the cameras to track your food stock. I doubt either of these things justify the amount of resources they consume to accomplish this pointless bullshit.
that’s just going to lead to grocery store ads: hey there, low on milk? i can tell… get 5¢ off
AI: that’s a duck!
No, it’s a rotting cabbage. I should have gotten the dumb fridge.
Wow. Not even a tasteful design, just turning the fridge into a full fledged highway billboard. Disgusting.
At least it’s static. They could’ve done a constant animation for maximal annoyance while you’re trying to focus on cutting onions.
I’m sure it’s in the pipeline, with sounds. Gonna have our appliances acting like gas pumps do.
Have you used one of those gas pumps with a screen recently? That’s definitely where it’s going.
gas station near me had those about 5 years or so ago. I’m not sure if they still have them or not, but volume pumped up to a crazy level too.
No, those aren’t a thing where I live thankfully, although that would probably cause me to switch petrol stations if they started doing this (or finally buy an electric car so I can have the ads on a giant screen while I’m driving /s).
The other day I had to wait for the ad video to stop playing before I could press “Yes” to have it print a receipt. I won’t be going back to that location.
