Just got one going on now.
An extended family group chat that was 99% baby photos until one person posted photos of their kids at a protest this weekend and then the chuddy trad-wife sov-cits in the family threw a fit.
They all left the chat and said they’ll only be reachable on Facebook.
Oh darn. All the shucks.
Now that is what i call an efficient way to filter out the trash from your group chat.
My friend had someone in our discord, he was the only one who was on in the video chat, the dude popped in and said, “you wanna see murder”
“No?”
Then he just vigorously started cutting himself with a knife. He was ultimately kicked out because of his drug problem
That’s the least problematic result. "We all love meaty food and we know you don’t so we didn’t invite you to the Delicious Meat Showcase.’
Rich high school friend shared a newspaper clipping with us (in the high school group) in which he was featured. Apparently he had a car accident with a girl in the seat next to him, and had suffered mentally for it over the guilt of crippling the girl. The initial reaction of the group was “ohh, so sorry you had to go through that”.
Later, once it sunk in that a) why was this featured in the newspaper at all, and b) his family is very rich, I think we all came to the understanding that he had basically crippled a girl with his reckless driving, could not fix the problem with money, and so in order to help mitigate against a future court case or to discredit the girl, his family paid for a sob piece in the press.
He was your typical rich kid: fast car, no consequences, if someone comes up with a joke he will steal it and claim it as his own. Shit eating grin, until you have nothing you can offer him so he goes and talks to someone else.
I came here for people’s group chat incidents
What I actually got is a flame war against vegans and a flame war against non vegans and they both hate vegetarians
Please reply with your group chat incidents
Vegans hate vegetarians? But they are vegetarians.
The only incidents we have is my mother’s husband keeps making new group chats. All the same people, somehow new groups.
All the same content though, just us sharing cat photos.
Got drunk and sent a picture of my dick wrapped in a fur blanket with a face drawn on it and the caption “winter is cumming”
Was pretty funny all in all, was an incredibly rowdy group chat
Honestly that seems pretty thoughtful of them. Most people I know would give zero shits and just post all that on a chat with vegans and vegetarians. Some of them going out of their way to post them on that chat specifically.
Gone vegetarian 5 years ago just before the pandemic hit. I’ve never had any real issues so far and my friend group has mostly switched to vegetarian meals when I’m present. Not because anyone forced them, but because it’s a lot easier and there’s so much awesome vegetarian food nowadays.
And when we barbecue, everyone brings their own stuff anyway. So that’s a non issue as well (I don’t care about cross contamination at all)
I don’t think I could go full vegan, but in all honesty, I save enough money from not buying meat that I can buy all of my milk and cheese organic and that got rid of pretty much every last one of my moral qualms.
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Queue militant vegans telling me how awful even organic dairy is in 3, 2, 1…
Not a vegan, but organic is really a marketing term more than anything, at least in the US. Organic farming isn’t necessarily a more environmentally safe alternative to normal farming, especially since “organic” pesticides tend to also cause local environmental damage.
This is confusing for me. When I was growing up, it was in the aftermath of DDT and all that shit. Organic was what decent people started using to indicate that no awful pesticides like that were used. It wasn’t supposed to be marketing.
There is a strong anti-organic community that will say this. There is a clear indication of what organic means on the website. It is not perfect, but waaaay better.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program
nowadays organic just means it doesn’t use regulated pesticides, doesn’t indicate any quality besides that
I don’t know and don’t care about the US, but at least in the EU this statement is false. The EU-BIO- Label doesn’t regulate as much as it could, but it does regulate a lot more than just “no pesticides”.
Oh, I’m in America, and it doesn’t mean “no pesticides”. it means no pesticides approved by the EPA. fuck knows what they’re actually putting on there
If you became a vegetarian for ethical reasons, then buying organic milk doesn’t solve any of the moral qualms connected to the dairy industry. The cow still gets (forcefully) impregnated, her calf still gets taken from her shortly after birth and both of them get killed once they are no longer economically viable.
I became a vegetarian for environmental reasons and I do think all animals deserve a dignified existance, but my criteria for that is obviously very different from yours.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around with people who’ve never encountered a live animal in their entire life. How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around
Are you saying cows are not impregnated forcefully? Because artificial impregnation is used regularly by dairy farmers. Even when not the time of impregnation, either by natural methods or artificially is carefully selected with best milk production in mind.
How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are
For cows it’s usually a dry period of 60 days, before they are impregnated again.
I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make here. Are you implying that wild cows would also be pregnatant as much as possible?
I’d be interested in what criteria for a dignified existence are. For example, what is your stance in the separation of mothers and child? This happens in organiy farming too. Regardless of the method of farming (organic or not) cows are slaughtered for meat after about 5 years, after bringing 2 or 3 calves into the world and about 15 years before their natural death. Do you regard that as a dignified existence?
Holly seeing the comments on this post is crazy and some people would do good to touch some grass.
I was hoping to read a collection of people’s group chat incidents. This sucks.
Meatheads love to ruin everything.
Most comments are by people talking about going vegan or vegetarian, what are you on about?
Professional victim while blaming everyone else, and also trying to use cute slurs
Being a single-issue conversationalist
Don’t start
If you actually pay attention you can see the meatheads started every argument.
So shut the fuck up.
meatheads
i regonize that yapper.
Looks like the average reddit user.
Dude /Dudette, what’s wrong with you? We aren’t here on xitter, where you get to dunk on others for some internet points. I know everybody has a bad day, but please act civilized and have a little dececy. It’s not that difficult and you’ll get your point accross easier if you don’t go fronting people 24/7.
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You must lead a charmed life
Not in these comment replies tho
FFS we are talking about the other comments in these replies.
I see a total of two shitheads commenting live bait and for every one of those, at least three people are shitting on them when they could’ve just downvoted and moved on.
If your point is “who’s starting it” rather than who’s fueling it, it’s disingenuous and overly generous.
“I should be able to post but you shouldn’t be able to reply”
Yep. Yet another useless flame war over dietary preferences while missing the original joke.
Ikr.
It’s a meme… Laugh. Or don’t?
What if I laugh and don’t?
This posts comment section is literally
Just because you couldnt live without Meat dosent mean you cant respect some ones choice to not eat it, change my mind.
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Seems considerate? “We didn’t want to annoy you with photos of something you despise so we created a separate channel to do just that but nothing else.”
Only if she did actually despise meat. I am in a few discords with vegans and vegetarians and we all just post food photos regardless.
I’d say the issue is more that the group was secret and had a stupid name.
The name is clever!
Incidents in my groupchats usually end up with somebody arrested tbh…
You can’t just say that and drop the mic! Tell us what happened!
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Looks like you’re doing a bit of venting here but…
Wut
Yeah, sorry about that. Honestly, the whole situation is stupid and not worth the tax it’s putting on me.
I would be vegan if all the food i like wouldn’t have an animal product in it, also i don’t really feel enough empathy toward animals so i don’t have that emotional push :(
I hate that the industry of meat do bad things and polute but also i don’t want to stop eating 80% of the things i like, i try to eat meat bought from local stores, also, cheer to all vegans that did the “transition”
Hey at least you’re being honest, not telling us how much you love animals while you’re eating them. Do you like impossible burgers?
Vegans supply their lack of animal protein with human attention.
Idk most vegans I know try not to talk about it and sometimes even hides it due to stigma.
It’s the meat heads obsessed with the topic. The only reason most vegans would mention their food preference is because food is part of most peoples life’s 3 times a day. But when discovered the questioning is relentless.
Interesting that people on either side are being accused of being obsessed when it’s the literal subject of the post we’re discussing under
In any post about veganism, you’ll get two types of idealist. People who make this unilateral sacrifice to help the world, and people who get defensive about not making yet another unilateral sacrifice. And they both have a lot to say.
if it wasn’t for that vegan teacher and other in the loud minority…
And people always forget. “Why do vegans go on and on about it?” Because we want to be able to eat? For my stag do, my brother forgot THREE times to get me vegan products. THREE. And then complained because I “mention it too much”…I just wanna eat!
How do you know someone’s not vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
i probably couldnt live Vegan, or even vegetarian. like i eat meat with almost every meal.
It’s certainly an inconvenient hurdle to clear to become vegetarian, let alone vegan.
All starts with being convinced that there is something wrong with eating meat, and usually the conscience takes it from there.
It also doesn’t help that our governments subsidize the meat and dairy industries to the point where they are some of the cheapest for people. Remove those subsidies, and people will start to see a reason to make the switch.
I’ve been vegan now for seven years and I literally just did it because I got tired of fucking with animals. I went from full-on carnivore to 100% vegan in a week; compared to quitting nicotine or even caffeine (easy) becoming vegan was by far the easiest life change I’ve ever made.
(Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.)
Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.
Maybe you have a different definition of vegan. Most say “vegan” means no animal products at all. It requires a ton of research to avoid constant minefields, because animal products can be in everything. Dyes, scents, preservatives, flavors, polishes, powders, etc… Even fresh fruit can be non-vegan, because sellers will polish their fruit with beeswax or shellac to make it more shiny, and give it a better shelf life.
I gradually ate less and less meat over 5 years. In the beginning I was just trying to reduce my ecological impact so I cut out beef and pigs first. Perfection is the enemy of the good; if the reader is daunted, then I suggest you just commit to one little thing at a time.
I’ve been vegan for four years and honestly, while it was practically not difficult for me, there was a pretty big mental hurdle I had to get over. It sounds silly in retrospect, but I literally mourned foods that I thought I’d never be able to eat. Turns out I still eat all the foods I like, just with small adjustments to make them vegan. So glad I switched. Best decision I ever made.
I’d do it too if only because it’s heathier, but almost every recipe I know has meat in it that’s pretty hard to replace, it wouldn’t be easy. Maybe if/when meat gets more expensive, I might give it a try.
Why wouldn’t you just try other recipes? I wouldn’t want to go back to the garbage I ate as a meat eater anyway; there is so much variety out there that doesn’t depend on eating animals.
There is, but it’s a massive effort. I do try it sometimes and I do have more vegan recipes than before, but I can’t just replace meat in my meat stew with tofu. The more time passes the more vegan recipes I have in my repertoire. I do try to avoid red meat and replace it with chicken or fish though, honestly I care more about the health aspect than the ethical one.
Becoming vegan was very easy for me. It’s essentially a matter of the straw breaking the camels back.
Once I got to the point of “yeah, this is fucked, I don’t want to be part of this horror show anymore” I simply didn’t want to eat meat.
Right on bro. I actually do amatuer MMA, and after switching to vegan I was finally able to surpass the plateau I hit, and set new personal bests in the big three, squat, deadlift and bench press.
Holy moly does a vegan diet give you a lot of energy. Never felt better.
Haha, look at all the envious fat asses giving me downvotes. Fucking losers.
Congrats and respect!
see thats the problem most of the things that i like to eat are animal products. some of them have like 1 or 2 vegan alternatives in the stores, most of them, like kebab dont (within 30 minutes of my home)
like i understand the reasoning, i just never could with the limited alternatives present.
especially when there are a total of 3 vegetables i can eat without needing to throw up
The thing about growing up with a meat-based diet, as most of us did, is that meat is always the focal point. Meals are basically cooking some meat, and then adding a couple of sides.
And so when people try to go vegetarian or vegan they are stuck in a way of thinking that is like “what do I substitute the meat with? What’s the vegetarian alternative to chicken??” - and without meat the style of cooking they are accustomed to falls apart, their meals are pathetic, and they don’t know what to do. And so people think “I can never give up meat!”
Vegan cooking that just tries to “replace” meat will never be as successful or delicious as vegan cooking that has it’s own identity. To cook well in a vegetarian or vegan way you need to re-evaluate what kind of dishes work, and how you cook. Roasting and searing brings out sweetness and creates texture. Spices kick up the flavour. Sauces bring it together.
I am not actually vegan myself, though I try to eat meat-free a lot of the time. I am fortunate to live in a city that has a lot of vegetarian and vegan food. This is some of the menu from a vegetarian restaurant I like:
Ravioli - Spiced celeriac filled ravioli, sage brown butter, apple & chilli salsa, parmesan cheese & walnut crumb (contains nuts)
Crown Prince Squash - Roasted crown prince, seared oyster mushroom, pear ketchup, Wensleydale blue cheese & walnut crunch (ve option available)(gf)
Fennel - Confit fennel, spiced red wine poached quince, labneh & mint & walnut dukkah (ve option available) (nuts)(gf)
Romanesco Cauliflower - Roasted cauliflower, soy & cauliflower purée, walnut & red pepper dressing & crispy chilli oil (ve) (nuts)
All utterly delicious! :)
And I have to ask - what is it about vegetables that makes you need to throw up? Is that a medical issue or did you just grow up in a house where vegetables didn’t exist?
Yah, that’s the wrong approach. ‘Meat alternatives’ are generally ass. Just eat whatever you usually eat that doesn’t need to have meat in it. Black bean tacos, donuts, and cheese pizzas are vegetarian, ya know. Although you will of course have to eat a salad once in a while (horror) to not get scurvy.
But eating meat does not involve fucking animals in the process? What kind of weirdo butcher you were going to.
Look up cow insemination.
I said “fucking with animals” but you already knew that you troll.
Damn, someone’s on a hare trigger. It was just a joke mate I got no beef with you.
Oi maybe you should buy them a beer tho
It was beef but I guess I talk more about beer than beef for the autocorrect
Why was this such an unpopular comment???
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
Their comment wasn’t making judgements of others, it was just a statement of personal feelings. On a memes community no less.
I get frustrated on Lemmy seeing stuff like this. Downvoting a completely innocent comment cause they have a different belief only makes their beliefs look dumb.
Have a conversation and let that conversation rise to the top of the comments.
I see this and think whoever is downvoting has such a fragile world view that it will break if they see a comment that offers a different take.
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
I just want to point out that the “pro lifers” and trans phobes also think their position is an “ethical” one, and all their decisions are driven by that. Doesn’t make them right just cause they think they’re doing the ethical thing.
Look I’m not a vegan, I was just trying to answer your question, but you’re begging the question really hard.
In what way am I begging the question? I was using your answer as a basis for my comment.
I would love to know why that comment got so many downvotes. I can’t think of a good reason why.
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Btw, I recognize you were just giving a theory and not necessarily downvoting for that reason. But it seemed like the correct reason as well.
Because it’s only a completely innocent comment if you accept the premise that consuming meat is not harmful.
And the cheese. Don’t forget the cheese.
Real food has meat in it
Ding dong your opinion is wrong.
Real food tastes good, my favorite Indian restaurant has some of the greatest food I’ve ever eaten, without a trace of meat
No I’m not vegan, I like meat, but it’s not a necessity in everything
And we eat wayyyy too much of it. Partly because it’s so prevalent that it’s the default in most meals.
You don’t have to go vegetarian to skip the meat at Taco Bell that you hardly notice anyway.
People always say they couldn’t give up a good steak, but we’re mostly not eating steak, we’re eating low quality processed meat and you could swap that with other protein and not notice.
Yeah, if people kept eating steak at the same rate, but reduced or stopped eating all the garbage meat, they and the world would be a healthier happier place. I’m not against eating meat, but I am against they typical western, especially American, focus on eating so much of it.
As a person who loves eating meat (fish and chicken mostly) I agree that I love some veg dishes
Fun fact! In English, the word meat does not include fish (at least usually). You can thank the Catholics for that one.
At this point in American English, there is no question that meat includes fish.
I think it should, but I don’t think it does. The first definition that shows up when I search the word: “The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.” It explicitly excludes fish, though I do think poultry is generally considered meat, so maybe this isn’t perfect. Every definition that is about flesh from a creature seems to exclude fish though.
The distinction of fish not being meat is the reason why the pescetarian diet exists. It’s a diet next to vegetarian, but allows fish. The don’t eat “meat.”
my favorite Indian restaurant
real food has meat in it
The Rizzler
Doesn’t really check out with your prejudices
There are only two kinds of people I have prejudice against. vegans, and the ruling class
All hail Ron Swanson. Truly, what an original thought.
The weak eat meat. 2nd class protein filled with fat and cholesterol.
No wonder almost 80% of Americans are fat sacks of shit.
