• peregrin5@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Chad doesn’t actually “forget” to do the job. he realizes it isn’t worth his time unless he’s asked about it at least twice.

    I’ve been Chad and been asked to do millions of things by people who will even forget they asked me to do them so unless it’s important enough that they follow up on it, it’s not a real job.

    i will usually say something in corporate speak though like “it hasn’t been on my radar yet” instead of “i forgot”.

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    My co-workers will cut any corner they can get away with. Then after awhile management will send an email telling everyone to knock it off. Closing hopper car ports on empty cars most recently. Then nobody does it anyways and there’s no consequences. No follow up. Every single time. After awhile you figure out caring about the slide is a waste of calories and you should just chill and collect the pay until they shutdown one day from pure apathetic incompetent mismanagement.

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    that is impossible. no one can give more than 100%

    if your contract says 8h work per weekday and you work for 8h 48m you gave 110%

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      18 minutes ago

      I’m almost certain this is actually a quote from the Simpsons?

      When Mr burns buys a baseball team and he’s hypnotising them to make them better. They all monotonously chant back what ever he says, except when he says “I will give 110%” they say the line from the OP.

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      Also redefining the 100% as 100% of what is sustainable longterm you can probably react 130% for a short burst.

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    22 hours ago

    I always give the full 60%. In case I need to step up, I can give 66%, and be seen as a miracle worker.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    No employer is gonna pay you 110% for going extra hard. All the profits from your extra work will just be enjoyed by your supervisor, helping coworkers and giving extra effort comes back to bite you in the ass eventually, whether it’s your 110% becoming expected, or being so good that any mistake you make will be seen as a big deal

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      There are actual good employers out there. My last one gave me a sizeable raise out of nowhere because I had been working my ass off on a project.

      But the only reason I was working my ass off was because they were good employers. They operated like a startup despite being in business since the 80s.

      Then Musk fucked everything up.

      But even before that, at the beginning of my IT career I went from a customer service agent to senior systems engineer in 5 years because I worked hard and took on projects that no one wanted to do.

      The key is knowing when to put in the work and when to put in just enough to keep your job.

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    This is why we should all do the minimum to keep our job and not give our best. After all when you get paid minimum wage they shouldn’t expect you to work at your maximum. I remember at my job even after 2 years working there, when the minimum wage got up they didn’t raise my salary but just put me at the new minimum wage because it got raised a bit higher than the salary I was making and the new employee with no experience, literally his first job ever gets paid the same as me. And it was at this moment I stopped giving it my best.

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    I was repeatedly disappointed by the class traitors I worked with. They were like “oh we have to work this weekend to get this feature out”.

    Do you? Do you really? Management set this deadline. They fucked up and now it’s “behind schedule”. And it’s a website. It’s not like there’s a factory sitting idle until we’re done, or a family without a home until the project is finished. The impact of “now you can view your project summary and team list side by side” is nil.

    When I pushed back against this, my boss I was bringing down the team’s morale. He said that it doesn’t hurt me if they work longer. Bullshit. They’re providing the same labor I am, but they’re devaluing it. They’re also setting a nasty precedent.

    And you know what? Almost all of us got laid off anyway, including my boss.

    This is also part of why the visa stuff is bullshit. Two of the guys were afraid to make any waves because if they lost their job, they might have to leave the country. Maybe they wouldn’t be so traitorous if their personal security wasn’t on the line.

    Now the CEO is posting memes about how high unemployment is and captioning them “lol”. He’s a middle eastern man that loves Musk. If ICE takes him to a camp I’m going to feel a little bad because of basic humanity, but also laugh really hard at the leopards eating his face.

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      Two of the guys were afraid to make any waves because if they lost their job, they might have to leave the country. Maybe they wouldn’t be so traitorous if their personal security wasn’t on the line.

      Isn’t that like, the whole point? Same as not having universal healthcare but instead tying your personal health to the whims of your employer?

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      Exactly, working harder than the bare minimum not to be fired will not get you rewarded.

      “Take what you can, give nothing back”

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        1 day ago

        “Take what you can, give nothing back”

        it should be: “work hard only for ideals that you actually believe in, not for the pockets of some CEO”

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        it can get you rewarded, up to a point

        my company reached that point. 50 people and now working all that extra doesn’t get me anything else. it did when we were sub 30 people

        so I backed off. if I won’t be paid more for it, I’m not gonna stress myself out like that

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          23 hours ago

          I think it can work only in small companies. I used to work in a place that had 15 people total, and our compensation was tied directly to company revenue. Not even individual performance, company performance. And each one of us had a direct impact on it.
          It was one of the healthiest job environments ever. Burnout was a risk, but even that was manageable with conscious planning.

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            I was so much happier working my ass off with only two dozen people at the company total than I am now with double that.

            When you’re a small company, everybody matters and everybody needs to be good at what they do, and it’s easy to communicate and keep everybody up to date. We’ve reached that size where not everybody is great, and their performance (or lack thereof) affects your own work. and then it cascades from there.

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        This is why more places should have performance related pay. Either as performance related pay rises or bonuses. That way people like Chad can do the minimum to not get fired, then bitch and moan about how they didn’t get a bonus this year.

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          I don’t think so. What something bad happens in your life and your performance goes down naturally for a while? You shouldn’t be punished for that and you might even need the money now more than ever

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            16 hours ago

            okay but you’re thinking of it as being entitled to the bonus in the first place, which is incorrect

            Of course you have to factor in does profit sharing mean that they’re paying everybody less than they could, but excluding that factor, it is entirely a bonus, not a punishment

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          Having worked in retail sales where a significant portion of my pay was based on performance… there are a lot of problems with performance based incentives. They inevitably get people to focus on only the one or two aspects those are based on, while everything else suffers. They almost always end up punishing individuals that have any sort of outside situation like needing to take sick time or simply taking vacation time.

          If all you give a shit about is work, which is not mentally healthy in most cases, especially since were talking about employees here not business owners and partners that are invested, that works for some people. Usually those that are trying to escape their life outside work are the ones that works best for, and that says a lot.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      Yes and no.

      Chad is a lot happier. Everyone who had to cover for Chad is not. Because this is capitalism. You aren’t hurting the corporations. You are hurting your co-workers who need this job.

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        This attitude is how people end up burnt out and how corporations continue to get away with things like wage theft.

        It is not solidarity to allow the corporation to abuse you just because they abuse your coworkers.

        Everybody needs a job to survive

        You’re not special just because you have this particular job. Either get with the program like Chad has or you’ll end up burnt out, in therapy, unable to comprehend why you hate your life, being vengeful about those who understand that the corporation does not care about you and will not treat you with any sort of respect and as long as you’re getting them profit they don’t care what you do either.

        If Chad hits the metrics he’s supposed to despite him forgetting to do his job and corporate doesn’t care then you’re the fool for working past chads level.

        What Chad does is recognize what his labor is actually worth and what the company is paying him. What you’re doing is allowing the corporation to take advantage of you and pull more of your labor for even less wage. You’re actually allowing the system to screw hard workers and pay workers less by capitulating your time in this way to corporations

        This defense mechanism is also seen similarly in toxic relationships for those who don’t want to rock the boat. What you’re doing will ultimately capitulate to the toxic relationship and make things worse.

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          If you organize a slow work or a strike, you are fighting for labour.

          If you faff off and expect people to cover for you, you are abusing labour.

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            I disagree.

            If you will allow a company to abuse you and then push others to accept the same abuse “in an effort to keep things running” you are keeping your comrades in chains

            I think the problem here is that you think he expects people to cover for him. Don’t cover for him and let him fail

            It’s not an abusive of Labor to check out specially if your bosses do nothing to punish it. Either become like Chad or get burnt out.

            Learn to let the business fail around you or lose your entire self to the business trying to upkeep when the even the owners can’t be bothered.

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              That presupposes that it’s either 110% or 10% with no in between. You can do the bare minimum to not create headaches for your co-workers, while still not going above and beyond.

              Do 60%, and focus on not making more work for your co-workers. That’s the best strategy for day-to-day.

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                That presupposes that it’s either 110% or 10% with no in between. You can do the bare minimum to not create headaches for your co-workers, while still not going above and beyond.

                Exactly what I meant but I was unable to put it into words. You shouldn’t abandon your co-workers, you should hold up your end of responsibility to your work and be accountable in that way but that you should not go above the letter of your job description.

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      I just quit a job because they lectured me for not staying later than I am scheduled. “John stayed late, and it was his birthday. It just seems like you aren’t being a team player.” Good for John. I’m going to keep doing what is on the job description and schedule though

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        Was doing an unpaid internship for my bachelors where I was told I seemed lazy for not staying as long as another intern.

        I wasn’t, because i was hired to work in a completely different city than where they ended up sending me, and had to commute for 3 hours to get to an unpaid job. Fuck no I’m not staying as long as the guy who commutes 10 minutes to the job site.

        After telling them that I was told I wouldn’t fit into the company. No fucking shit, your company is fucking shit.

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        I wonder, what made you quit your job? Why not stay and change exactly nothing about your behavior? You could have been an inspiration to your fellow colleagues that way, or at least not go through the hassle of looking for a new job immediately

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    Do enough work to secure what you want from the job, which is to not get fired. That, and a good reference for better pastures if you’re still resume building, or have just moved to a new city.