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      i like how in a yotube video her pretending to be a christian, by wearing a cross makes her absolve from all the court rules for some reason, as a gotcha moment for right wingers. something along the judge wants her to take it off, because it gives the wrong message.(i dint click on the video)

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    Can’t say it on Reddit, but I hope that they can’t find a jury who would convict him.

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      By requesting the DP they are essentially going to try to find a jury that is as pro DP as possible.

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    For a second I was going to say it’s like they’re trying to make us hate them more somehow. Then I realized, yeah, that’s probably exactly what they’re trying to do. Antagonizing people into violence is the goal.

    I’m not sure if it’s to use it as an excuse to declare martial law, or kick off a civil war, or both? Idk I guess I’ve just been around enough passive aggressive pieces of shit in the past to recognize it when I see it.

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      The shitty part is that they win either way. Either they get an excuse to escalate or they get to kill a potential movement in its crib. The people aren’t exactly holding any trump cards here.

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        I think it’s a bit more complex than that, because it still depends on the conviction.

        Clearly he is not getting off from some kind of murder charge. I don’t know much about the trial, but I would assume his lawyers are arguing a state of physical and emotional distress which would have kept him from being in his right mind when he allegedly shot the guy.

        It would be a pretty bold move for a “free country” to execute someone like that. Not saying it wouldn’t happen, but I know we’re already being monitored for human rights violations by other countries. It would seem to be a weak hand to play, but then again strongmen usually play pretty weak hands when they want to prove how powerful they are. We have entire histories worth of atrocities to prove it.

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      An indefinite general strike would work though. It’s peaceful and would cripple the oligarchs

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      100% this. We have actual murderers in prison for life who have killed several people. They’re still here and will be until they die.

      This is 100% a message that rich people’s lives are more important than any of our lives. And they’re willing to kill to prove it.

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        people largely forgot about navalny, he fear if he stayed out of russia too long, his martydom would not be useful, and largely been ignored since his death. MSM is in cahoots with putin indirectly, so they wouldnt report him anyways.

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      Scarred or scared?

      I think it’s both.

      If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in Him. There will be blood in the water, the sharks will come.

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      19 and 16 are “young” children? Not to mention the fact that he was separated from his wife and his contact with them was limited. Unlike with hundreds, if not thousands, of parents he killed with his policy of denying coverage.

      The obvious fellating of the ruling class by the mainstream media is annoying as fuck.

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        Nearly 26.6 million people in the U.S. rely on UnitedHealthcare Employer & Individual through insured and self-funded plans. In addition, we serve more than 7.5 million people with care and benefits services outside of the United States.

        Rather than hundreds to thousands, I’m going to go with thousands to tens of thousands.

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        How about a new rule… You don’t get to call them young children if you think that they are old enough to work long hours at a hazardous job without breaks, or that they are old enough (by 2 or more years!) to be married to a 60+ year old pervert. You lose all moral standing to call them “young children” if you do.

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          Well, yeah. But they’re not even bothering to pretend to be a separate Fourth Estate any more.

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      That’s crazy they can actually say that he was an innocent man and actually believe it. The level of mindfuckery required for that is absolutely unfathomable.

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      I guarantee as that piece of shit bled out on the sidewalk, the words “why me?” didn’t cross his minds. He knew what he did to deserve it. He did deserve it, as do countless other greedy mother fuckers who are ruining the world for personal gain.

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        If anything went through his head other than possibly a bullet, it would not shock me at all if “why me” or “what did I do to deserve this” was there. No one with intact empathy or a conscience could do what he did. If he was capable of recognizing his failings he wouldn’t have been willing to earn his wealth by stepping on the necks of the sick.

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        More workers than soldiers at this point

        I have a friend who studies behavior but applied to employment systems. Tons of research there on getting the most out of your employees. This sounds terrible when you first hear it right? But when you read it it’s about not burning out staff with reasonable quotas and demands, using positive reinforcement, building morale, etc. basically that you might decrease output slightly now but you’ll increase retention of the staff and the staff will overall be much more satisfied

        They reject this in basically every industry even though it’s evidence based. It’s easier to burn people out and churn through workers. Meanwhile humanity stays poor and miserable for the most part (aside from a small percentage that makes out like bandits)

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          Right? Tons of studies show that treating your employees well is way more profitable than treating them like shit. Even from a capitalist perspective, it’s stupid to not treat them well.

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            Well it depends. If you want quality staff delivering quality service/making quality products then yes it is. You have to spend a ton of money onboarding and training them so burning them out is foolish because you just burn cash

            However, if you are fine with delivering a poor or mediocre service/product (the bare minimum), you can slash training and onboarding costs to the bare minimum. Your staff will be even more resentful because now they will struggle.

            But as long as you have a huge pool of workers clamoring for jobs you can keep this going and even do so with abusive conditions (demand 100% efficiency, constant overtime, insane quotas, etc). Just burn them out and when they crash pick another resume from the pile

            I was talking to someone the other day who works in the tech industry. They had a coworker who died on a Friday and they were replaced on a Monday. There was no fanfare or grieving. It was just “okay, that’s a bummer, here’s his replacement”

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            that assumes the point is something other than cruelty. the wealthy need us to suffer so that they can justify being wealthy as being a protection from suffering

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            trader joes and costco treat thier employees well, i believe thats why its kinda hard to get jobs there. because people arnt leaving. WHolefoods was like that before amazon bought it.

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      In this case it’s just the rich punishing a plebeian for daring to challenge them, in the hopes of they make his punishment terrible enough everyone else will be too scared to rise up.

      But in answer to you astute observation that the ‘pro-life’ people love the death penalty, the reason is simple: to these people, being ‘bad’ isn’t something you do, it’s something you are.

      So to them it’s not a break in internal logic at all. They gave the pure, innocent baby a chance, but they turned out to be a Bad Person, so they must be punished, because that’s what you deserve for being a Bad Person.

      This is why they favor punitive jailing and killing criminals instead of trying to reform criminals; criminals are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things.

      It’s also why they do stuff like try to get rid of abortion. If a woman got pregnant from ‘sleeping around’ then she’s a Bad Person and deserves to be punished by carrying the child to term.

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        To further your point, this is how shit like Al Franken happens.

        In general conservatives see themselves as generally good people who occasionally do bad things but it’s okay because that’s still a good person who has good intentions. Whereas in their eyes people who are in out groups are bad people who are always going to do bad things no matter what because they have bad intentions.

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            He was quickly ousted from his position as a popular and respected Minnesota senator during early #metoo, for accusations that you’d never imagine a Republican resigning over, allegations in fact that have failed to take out other more core-party Democrats (Andrew Cuomo comes to mind, he still has a millionaire warchest and is running for NYC mayor this year with full support of the DNC). Democrats fall easily for the virtue olympics.

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        It’s a perversion of Christianity.

        God can commit genocide and torture because His actions are beyond human understanding. God is the creator of Goodness, so every action he does is Good by design. I personally view God only as Good because he is powerful, but I view Jesus as Good in a more genuine and human way.

        The powerful like to take the parts of religion that allow them to live in a simplified world. A world in which they are Good, like God, not by action but by power and nature.

        They forget that sinning applies to the powerful, just like it applies to the weak. Everyone deserves to be forgiven in Christianity, but only after you’ve paid for your sins. People like the “being forgiven” part, but not begging for forgiveness in a brown sack covered in ashes part.

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        They need an excuse to cover up their real reason: that they think peasants have a duty to breed for the state.

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    hmm so death is an appropriate consequence for killing people, huh. so she’s admitting that Luigi allegedly delivered justice, actually.

    I think it’s inappropriate for a lawyer to use stage names though. I mean, Pam Bondi? come on.

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      pam, bondi who recieve releection bribe from trump to drop her case against him about trump university.

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        This is important. When Trump was starting his first run for president, he was fighting his many state lawsuits for his Trump University fraud. She was the Florida AG, and they were about to levy a $25 million fine against him. He had a meeting with her, he donated $25K to her reelection campaign, and she dropped the case, amd became a supporter.

        That let him know the kind of AG she was, so he gave her the Fed version. He WANTED a corrupt AG that he can bribe.

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    This has a potentially significant chance of backfiring, as it is more difficult to get a jury to convict when the death penalty is at stake.

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    How to make a martyr in 180 days?

    It’s really crazy we are literally living in a new type of world.

    The wealthy ARE the powerful, but the rest of us out number them to such grand extent that the only way they can remain wealthy is through fear and murder.

    There is no war but class war.

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      They did this to the anarchist assassins (And accused assassins) in the 1930s, too. Started summarily deporting people en masse for their beliefs or presumed beliefs, and executing people after brief appearances in kangaroo courts. Honestly if Germany hadn’t gone Nazi and basically dragged the us into a war with them, we would have done it instead.

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      No they can remain wealthy by being wealthy and enjoying their wealth and not obsessively doing everything possible to ratfuck everyone else with their wealth.

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    A man killed a man that was killing thousands of men.

    So, we should kill him!

    Are they not vindicating Luigi by wanting this?

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    They’re sitting on a working class revolt powder keg and they just lit the match ….lol

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        Without social security, food stamps, labor protections of any kind, functioning schools, healthcare standards, housing security, environmental protections, veterans benefits, unions and with mass unemployment and a whole lot of guns…….things will deteriorate quickly

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      The wealthy class in the US are heavily invested in military stocks. War benefits them, even if it’s civil war. This is probably intentional.

      Maybe I’m too cynical or giving them too much credit. Hope we find out

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        I expect more assassins targeting people who are not so high up on the facist totem pole. There was nothing special about Bryan Thompson, there are hundreds like him out in there. But he was high up enough for his death to matter. Honestly, he was like some dumb animal that got zapped climbing into a transformer.

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        You guys gotta realize that the military industrial complex and big Pharma and big oil are not big anymore. They’re not even as big as Facebook and Microsoft combined.

        Big tech is who you need to be afraid of at this point

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      The working class in America are so docile and subdued at this point that they won’t notice when all this happens.

      Death penalty would take several years to happen and by then people will have forgotten. Only a couple of remaining groupies will make a fuss.

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      if the people (THAT’S YOU AND ME BTW) don’t make them regret this, then the bullies won and this shit is all over but the generations of endless suffering under their eternal dystopia.

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      The only way the current president can hang on for more than four years is to incite insurrection and then activate the insurrection act. All these ‘take it to the streets’ people might as well be shouting jump at a guy being pushed off a building.

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          I am pointing out that invoking the insurrection act is the next step toward an outright American dictatorship, just like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree

          I assume a full blown dictatorship is going to be harder to fight, which is based on history. Your useless pithy little platitude is encouraging the next step. “You’ll never know if you can fly until you JUMP! Just JUMP!” go to hell.

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              So you’re not even reading the words I’m saying? Do you just have a stack of these stupid one-line non-statements? Looking over your posting history it looks like you just want to shoot someone and are vapidly seeking an excuse to go run riot. Anarchy via armed idiots is very Jan 6 energy and will get you nowhere.

              Luigi tactics are effective and that scares the pee pee out of the people running this shit-show. Running around in the streets shooting at random plays directly into their intentions.

              Here let me pop out your next one-liner for you to save you some time; “I fully intend to throw the rabbit DIRECTLY into the Briar patch and if you disagree you’re a boot-sucking Nancy boy”

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                Luigi tactics are effective and that scares the pee pee out of the people running this shit-show

                if this is effective then yippee. i’m just tired of protests and all the other limp wristed leftist shit that never accomplishes anything. the entire history of civilization is built on dominance through force. i’m just trying to get people to realize that. if you don’t like it, then get fucked. you were never an ally to begin with.

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                  Oh so you’re eager to get to the part where the force starts happening REGARDLESS of timing or target? Gaza Oct 7th could tell you all about what happens when you march on a larger and more organized force without a backup or any plan for step 2; you lose and everyone you care about dies. That always seems like such a small price to pay for bloody minded sociopaths.

                  Don’t tell the little guy to punch the big guy 1:1 while you watch, you’re just looking for entertainment. You’re not a leader of men, you’re just another chunk of limpwrist shit telling people ‘lol go shoot someone or you’re a cuck coward’ with absolutely zero self awareness.

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          Treating the uncivilized with civility simply legitimizes them in their own eyes. Be civil to the civil, take the rest out back for whipping.