Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said that while he didn’t want to do it, he had to remind people of how “severe” the situation is.

A top Republican official in Missouri is threatening to remove President Joe Biden from appearing on the ballot as retaliation for the determination in two other states that Donald Trump doesn’t qualify because he “engaged in insurrection.”

“What has happened in Colorado & Maine is disgraceful & undermines our republic,” Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft wrote on the social media site X on Friday. “While I expect the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!”

Ashcroft’s post came shortly after the Supreme Court agreed to review a decision by Colorado’s high court that found Trump could be barred from the state’s primary ballot because of his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

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    So yeah, if Biden commits insurgency, then his should be off the ballot. But last time I checked he hasn’t come anywhere close.

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      But, Republicans would have you believe “fair is fair.” Trump got impeached, so Biden should get impeached. Trump got kicked off the ballot, so Biden should get kicked off the ballot. This has nothing to do with pesky things like details and rule of law, it’s just about my side vs your side, unless my side is winning, then I’ll take the law into consideration again.

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        The logic of “We’re going to punish your guy for what our guy did” makes me laugh… until I cry.

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        it’s just about my side vs your side

        That’s what authoritarians literally believe. It’s a tribal mentality. “Might makes right.” “The ends justify the means.”

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      You’re forgetting that for these people, “commit insurgency” means “supports things I don’t like”.

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      The real question is what Thomas’s dissenting opinion would be when the SC rules otherwise, and if he gets paid by the word.

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    They’ll sacrifice their lives for a person who is demonstrably the actual biggest loser in history, and he just gets more loser-y, folks, okay… If any of you are starting to have your memories fade, here’s a quick refresher to read this morning and then copy and send to your aunt karen in Missouri.

    • 0 re-elections won
    • 1 term president
    • 2 times impeached
    • 3 marriages
    • 4 inch lifts in his shoes
    • 5 kids, from 3 different mothers
    • 6 bankruptcies
    • 7 US Capitol police suing him for Jan 6 terrorist insurrection and murder of police
    • 8 trillion + dollars added to the US debt in a single term
    • 9 trump lawyers sanctioned by federal judge for lying in frivolous election fraud lawsuits and ordered to pay defendant’s legal fees
    • 10 years that trump paid $0 in income taxes between 2000 and 2015. ($0 to cops, teachers, roads, prisons, disaster relief, etc)
    • 11 trump associates charged with serious crimes over the past 5 years
    • 12 million votes (the big lie) - trump claims he won the 2020 election by 12 million votes when in reality, he lost by about 7 million votes.
    • 13 of August, 2021 - one of multiple days that trump was supposed to magically become president again according to Qanon and a crack addicted pillow salesman (the two most respected information sources in the gop)
    • 14 year old girl in a youth choir that trump approached in 1992 to say, “Wow! Just think - in a couple years I’ll be dating you.”
    • 15 originally confirmed cases of COVID in the US trump said would soon be, “down to close to zero.” followed by, “like a miracle, it will disappear.” - over 1,000,000 Americans have since died of COVID and it continues to kill 4 years later.
    • 16 years old - age of daughter ivanka when she hosted “miss teen” pageant and, according to long time trump associate Noel Casler, “trump called her over in the middle of a rehearsal and had her give him a lap dance while he leered at the crew.”
    • 17 known trump and russia investigations from local, state and federal prosecutors
    • 18 gop senators that ignored trump threats / warnings and supported Biden admin’s infrastructure bill.
    • 19 as in COVID19 - trump was verified as the single largest source of disinformation on the virus, with a Cornell study claiming that 38% of the “misinformation conversation” originated with trump
    • 20 the day in January, 2021, when Biden was sworn in despite trump inciting a violent insurrection to stop election verification at the US Capitol.
    • 21 gun salute that trump ordered for himself when he left office after a humiliating defeat, even though he never served in the military, famously called military members “losers” and “suckers” and actively avoided the draft with a cowardly “bone spurs” excuse.
    • 22 date in August, 2021, when Alabama hate rally crowd booed trump for finally saying people should get vaccinated, only after 700,000 Americans have died due mostly to his failure as president
    • 23 as in wrestlemania 23 in 2007 where trump, a cartoon level failure with no other prospects, participated in a fake bet that a proxy wrestler would win a fake fight on his behalf or he would shave his wig and hair plugs off.
    • 24 day in August, 2021, when trump actually filed a lawsuit in Florida court against YouTube, a private company, demanding that they reinstate his YouTube channel like a desperate, irrelevant embarrassment with no platforms left to abuse.
    • 25 plus credible sexual assault allegations against trump, spanning decades and with accusers starting as young as 13 years old at time of assault.
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    I mean, good luck, you’ll have to provide better justification than revenge to keep it from being overturned.

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          As though having the rules applied to them won’t reenforce their victim complex.

          If they lose - even thanks to a GOP judge (a wild concept) it’ll be because of the elites… You know - the Jews.

          They’re somehow both moronic and evil.

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    Yes if Joe Biden engages in insurrection then he should be excluded from the ballot. I just don’t think that’s particularly likely.

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    I am really tired of Republicans threatening lawlessness in response to application of lawful consequences.

    At this point, they deserve to have some lawless consequences applied to them, if that’s what they crave so badly.

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    Waaaahhhh my candidate got kicked off so I’m going to retaliate and try to kick the other guy off. Good luck at the Supreme Court.

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      It’s literally all the GOP really has been trying to accomplish since Nixon. They did it to our guy so we have to get them back somehow.

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    I’m voting Biden. But if the Democrats would suggest maybe someone else from the 150million rational thinking American population who are not Republican, I would vote for that person. Joe has done a good job. I just don’t wanna be sitting here in my toilet writing about how terrible the situation is 2 years from now when we loose Joe to stress and need a new president. So obviously not Trump or any other rock-like object or non-human organic matter composition. But any human who loves this country and wants us to do even better would be nice.

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    Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!"

    It does. The legal standard does apply equally to everyone. And in fact the same standard has applied for 155 years.

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      >The legal standard does apply equally to everyone. And in fact the same standard has applied for 155 years.

      under the law, in it’s fairness, it is just as illegal for the billionaire to sleep under a bridge as it is for the homeless

      fuck laws

      also, fuck politicians.

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    Just to fantasize a bit, it’d be hilarious if these “Duck season! Wabbit season!” Shenanigans resulted in both Democrats and Republicans mutually excluding each other from a majority of ballots, and third parties had to fill in the gaps.

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    Yeah so THAT wouldn’t hold up to a SCOTUS hearing. Rather if it does we may as well ignore SCTOUS forevermore.

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      Why are the comments here acting like the SCOTUS stands for anything but toeing Republican line? The court is more stacked than it has been for decades and these people will gladly sell-out the Constitution to score political power for Republicans.

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        Pretty sure three of them literally got their positions in return for their work on the Bush v. Gore case in 2000 that led to the first GW Bush Presidency.

        John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett all worked for the Bush campaign on that case.

        People have been lying to themselves about this one for a long time. Roberts is chief justice, and Bush elevated him there in 2005. It’s just become much more egregious and mask-off since then because they’re pretty damned sure the public can’t actually do anything about it so they’ve stopped giving a shit about pretending.

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          My impression is they still know they must feign being apolitical and letting Trump argue election lies would be so far removed from reality that they know everything would change after that.

          Whereas this case means all they need to say is, “let the voters decide” and the enlightened centrists, even some of the left, will nod their heads in agreement or just quietly bicker.

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      Well yes because that means they will be accountable too. And they don’t wanna take personal responsibility over anything.

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      Honestly at this point someone just needs to end Trump for the sanity of us all. There stupid fucks won’t get over his dick in their ass otherwise.

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      It’s basically Animal Farm.

      “We believe in democracy for all… but some are more democratic than others”

      “We believe in free speech… but some speech is more free than others.”

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    do it then, just like the impeachment. quit bitching and do something so we can put you down again you fucking cowards.

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      That was my favorite when GOP cried for Biden Impeachment and how weak they look when they literally had nothing.

      They continue to show how limp dick they are.

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        What scares me is they look impotent to anyone who is able to think critically or at all, really, but these theatrics are actually effective for their low IQ base. Whenever their latest bullshit plan doesn’t work, they just blame some communist conspiracy, which further riles the idiots up.

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          “Poor, poor Donald Trump. Can you imagine? So rich he don’t have to do nothin but sit around and enjoy life, but he sacrificed everthang to lead this country to greatness. He even lost money to do it. Can you believe that? Poor, poor man gets harassed constantly. They’re doin everthang they can to take him down. Most men would just call it quits and retire to an island, but he knows that Satan wants power. He wonts tuh git in the kids heads and make ‘em all gay and bring the end. The commonists are this close tuh takin’ America. Only thang ‘at can stop it is God and Donald Trump.”

          I actually heard someone say this. I felt my eyes rolling back into my melting brain.

          You know what bums me out? During the debate with Hillary Clinton he said, “I’ll keep you in suspense.” When asked if he would accept the results of an election if he lost.

          Before that I thought, “Well, maybe he’s just playing it up. He’s said some decent shit in the past. Maybe he really is a smart guy and he’s pandering to the right people.” Once he said that I thought, “Oh boy, this is scary. Good thing he said it though. Now everyone will know he’s dangerous.”

          January 6 happened and I thought everyone would connect the dots.

          Nope. They just went batshit crazy with him.

          Thank god his sons have as much charisma as a bowl of pea soup. Maybe this will end when he dies… until the next charismatic character comes along and says all the right things to rile up bigots. Or, wouldn’t it be great if his youngest son becomes a progressive and wins entirely because he’s a Trump? A man can dream haha.

          I was so happy in 2008 when we elected the first black president even though I didn’t align with him politically at the time. I knew what was going to follow though, swear to god. The bigots got scared and got political. I mean, it’s more than just that, but that was a huge deal to them.

          I wish it had instead made them collectively say, “Ok boys, we’re wrong to feel this way.” Nope.

          What a time to be alive.

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            I hope this is a “growing pains” moment and we’ll all band together to overcome hate and greed, but I fear all the bigots, morons, and corporations are going to take power by force since they can’t get it by popular vote.

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          I think it’s funny how some people still think Bernie Sanders had a chance when lots of Americans froth in the mouth about Biden being a communist.

          He’s a moderate right-wing politician at best.

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            You’re right. Bernie was a step in the direction we need to go considering where we’re at now, but that’s not happening any time soon. Now what little is left of United States democracy is on life support.

            It’s surreal, watching the United States disintegrate from the inside. I wonder if this is how the Soviets felt in the eighties.

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    Trump can do no wrong. Therefore, any action taken against him must be unjustified. So it can only ever be political, and therefore, it’s only fair that we do the same to Biden.

    The best part is, they recognize that this is terrible for democracy, that this being normalized would be a disaster, and then say they are going to do it anyway. They are admitting that rather than accept the outcome of the legal process for settling these kinds of situations, and respecting the rule of law, they would rather damage our society to get their victory by any means necessary.

    Which is pretty much how we got here in the first place, when Trump couldn’t accept an election or dozens of court cases all telling him he lost.

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      TL;DR: they’re fascist traitors committing sedition and need to be treated as such.

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        The fact that democrats don’t treat them as such shows that they’re complicit in the march to fascism.