New records from emergency responders obtained by The New York Times show that Good was not breathing but had an irregular pulse when local medics arrived at the scene, and had no pulse by the time they removed her from her car. This comes after an initial video captured by bystanders showed ICE agents screaming at a medic who offered help as Good lay dying in her car.
“Can I go check a pulse?” a man said after Good was shot, his hands in the air.
“No! Back up!” an ICE agent told him.
“I’m a physician!”
“I don’t care!” the agent replied, before another came up and said they had their own EMS on the way. They arrived and performed CPR on Good—who had two gunshots in her chest and one on her arm—before taking her to the hospital, where she later died.
That “I don’t care!” is what my kids shout when they realize someone saw them doing something bad and they’re angry, sulky, and trying to save face. My kids aren’t murdering people though. Unless I just haven’t caught them yet.
I don’t care in this case is the difference between 2nd degree and 1st degree murder.
I know deeply how infuriating this was to watch, and I’m pretty sure that as bad as it feels now… things will get worse before they get better, and then when they get better a lot of serious shit is going to happen to every masked asshole in that video.
Either the system will rebound and we will have justice, or the system will NOT rebound and we will go get our justice.
The system has been empowering and looking the other way on right wing terrorist groups for decades. They systematically hunted down the leaders of the civil rights movements, they planted crack in the inner cities….all of our elected representatives send hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel to literally commit a genocide. The citizens of Israel have universal healthcare, free college and monthly payments per child from our tax dollars….our system is not fixable. There’s nothing good to rebound to the genocide is here now
And if we are patient, we’ll get to see how long it takes for anyone to do absolutely nothing about it.
I’d hate to die alone bleeding out on my steering wheel because of a fat, stupid, mentally deficient ICE agent who hates women decided I would be a stand-in for his mother that day.
I mean I feel like it’s still an inarguable point as to WHY she was shot, but let’s ignore even that part but why oh why did they deny her care after that? Can conservative sociopaths explain that part away, because they’ll always argue about how she deserved it but did she deserve medical care?
Because at least actual cops still call an ambulance for you or let a Dr reach you
There are times cops have shot someone 30 or more times, who is clearly absolutely dead and they will still apply bandages and give CPR sometimes to give at least the impression of protecting life. To me the denial of medical care in this situation is even more proof of guilt than the shooting because they can argue they feared for their life in the moment, but they had ample time to provide aid and deliberately blocked it.
The murderer even went to check the body immediately after but then left, I would be unsurprised if he saw she was still potentially alive and they decided to block aid intentionally to make sure she was dead. I assumed she was shot in the face or head 3 or 4 times which would be unlikely to survive, but apparently she was wounded twice in the chest on the right side, once in the forearm and once in the head. I don’t know the specific damage from the shot to the head, it’s most likely she would have at least been in a vegetative state or have severe brain damage if she had lived, but to deny the chance of any aid for over ten minutes would seal the deal of a conviction for murder if I were a jury member in this case.
If it turns out the shot to the face was bullet two or three, Ross is done.
Two reasons. First, you don’t know that that guy really is a doctor. He could be some random crazy person. Second, if she lives, she can sue.
That never happens, also the response isn’t “no” it’s any sort of question to discern if they are telling the truth.
Not making excuses for a fascist preventing a doctor from getting to someone who’s bleeding to death is free.
So basically this proves every ICE agent on the scene was an accomplice.
Insane, wtf. She was a planned hit.
Willful disregard for human life is the legal term I believe.
Don’t forget utter incompetence.
They are incompetent, but their violence, abuse and murder are deliberate.
Incompetence isn’t a crime outside of specific licensed and regulated roles. Willful disregard for human life is a crime
I’m sure it’ll be thrown around a bit during Nuremberg 2
Nuremberg only happened because Germany was utterly defeated and occupied by foreign powers. I’m not optimistic America will have a reckoning like that.
Here is my favorite video essay of 2025: Fantasies of Nuremberg.
A bit of a heads-up: do not watch this video if you want to retain any hint of a fantasy that such a reckoning even did happen in the first place. Do watch if you want a fantastically well written essay about one of the most mythologized and relevant events in history.
Oh I’m well aware of how weak denazification was. I’m saying I doubt the US will even get that much.
But it really needs one.
New records from emergency responders obtained by The New York Times show that Good was not breathing but had an irregular pulse when local medics arrived at the scene, and had no pulse by the time they removed her from her car. This comes after an initial video captured by bystanders showed ICE agents screaming at a medic who offered help as Good lay dying in her car.
It was a physician, not a medic.
Since they weren’t in a hospital… does the distinction matter? The provided care would’ve been the same, wouldn’t it?
If anything a medic might actually have more first aid experience than a physician.
A doctor would be able to provide a higher level of care than a medic, because of all the experience in medical school.
Medics don’t need degrees in medicine, just a paramedic program which is only 20 months. Ie the same length as the first post secondary requirement to medical school.
Nope. If you are down in the field 99% of the time you want a good medic.
If you need your blood drawn, you want a good phlebotomist. People are good at what they practice. Doctors are great in their environment, but it’s not like they are better at doing the jobs of other medical professionals.You got me, but without a kit I don’t think prior experience with gunshot wounds would make up for the time lost waiting on the second person. And it’s not like this was an either/or. It’s completely asinine to not let the doctor that is standing right there access to someone actively bleeding. Even the most casual assessment would save the paramedic on their way a minute and would have the attempts to stop the bleeding happen minutes earlier. That’s not a trivial amount of time. This level of negligence is homicide
medic
noun
: one engaged in medical work or study
Synonyms of medic
doctor
physicianMedic has the common connotation of emergency medic, also called corpsman in the military.
Odd thing to nitpick, but since we ARE nitpicking; medics might be referred to as corpsman in the US military. Other countries with militaries have them too. We just call them medics.
There’s a whole world outside of the USA.
@floofloof Horrific, evil.
