• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    New records from emergency responders obtained by The New York Times show that Good was not breathing but had an irregular pulse when local medics arrived at the scene, and had no pulse by the time they removed her from her car. This comes after an initial video captured by bystanders showed ICE agents screaming at a medic who offered help as Good lay dying in her car.

    It was a physician, not a medic.

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      23 hours ago

      Since they weren’t in a hospital… does the distinction matter? The provided care would’ve been the same, wouldn’t it?

      If anything a medic might actually have more first aid experience than a physician.

      • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        22 hours ago

        A doctor would be able to provide a higher level of care than a medic, because of all the experience in medical school.

        Medics don’t need degrees in medicine, just a paramedic program which is only 20 months. Ie the same length as the first post secondary requirement to medical school.

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          Nope. If you are down in the field 99% of the time you want a good medic.
          If you need your blood drawn, you want a good phlebotomist. People are good at what they practice. Doctors are great in their environment, but it’s not like they are better at doing the jobs of other medical professionals.

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            22 hours ago

            You got me, but without a kit I don’t think prior experience with gunshot wounds would make up for the time lost waiting on the second person. And it’s not like this was an either/or. It’s completely asinine to not let the doctor that is standing right there access to someone actively bleeding. Even the most casual assessment would save the paramedic on their way a minute and would have the attempts to stop the bleeding happen minutes earlier. That’s not a trivial amount of time. This level of negligence is homicide

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          3 hours ago

          It can do, but that’s no basis on which to say “they weren’t a medic”. You can correctly call a physician a medic.

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          21 hours ago

          Odd thing to nitpick, but since we ARE nitpicking; medics might be referred to as corpsman in the US military. Other countries with militaries have them too. We just call them medics.

          There’s a whole world outside of the USA.

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            They’re only corpsmen in the Navy. In the other branches they’re medics, except the Marines which don’t have any (they borrow corpsmen from the Navy).