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    7 hours ago

    I cannot imagine wanting to spend time with children after being around for hundreds of years!

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    It has been years now since I saw the first half of the first movie, but I think I remember that his dad is an actual doctor.

    So isn’t he the one that should have focused on that?

    (not that I believe an immortal being would be any better than the researchers we have now)

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      6 hours ago

      anyone with ample free time that does not devote their life to the active pursuit of knowledge or bettering their craft is a waste of space

      I wonder if vampire brains freeze mentally once they’re turned

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        I wonder if vampire brains freeze mentally once they’re turned

        “Vampire: The Masquerade” has that as a downside of being a vampire. Vampires are less creative than humans, to the point that being turned into a vampire is said to hurt their talent worse than aging ever could. They also can’t properly adapt to new technology. Basically, vampirism comes with creative sterility.

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          6 hours ago

          whilst I agree, I do judge anyone who sits on their hands for a 100 years not wanting to learn more about their existence

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        anyone with ample free time that does not devote their life to the active pursuit of knowledge or bettering their craft is a waste of space

        cringe capitalist brainworms tbh

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          6 hours ago

          (I love that someone wrote an anime vibing off a bunch of Creepy Nuts songs)

          Also, to be pedantic, neither of them are strictly vampires - they’re something else

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    I remember I did actually talk to a teenage girl about that (it was many, many years ago) and she still insisted ‘but it’s hot though’.

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    Not just a minor but person who might have a mental disorder/illness. In case you never read Twilight, the vampires have unique abilities, Edward’s being telepathy. When he meets Bella, he is unable to detect any thoughts from her. The entire book Bella is literally described as having no subconscious thoughts.

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      The books/movies make quite clear that Bella has a special power which makes her immune to Edward’s telepathy. It was a huge plot point of the second book.

      To imply that she was like somehow cognitively disabled is both wrong and really weird…

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      I’ve not read the books or seen the movies or anything, so I don’t have a clue what Edward is like.

      The ‘minor’ issue is one thing (eek) but if I had the power of telepathy, I can only assume I’d be pretty fascinated by someone I couldn’t read.

      Human interaction is kinda built on the supposition that you can choose what you share with others and keep private things private, and getting to know people is the process of getting comfortable in sharing more about ourselves. We feel happy around our friends because we feel we have a sense of them and know them, and that’s an earned process.

      If you always knew what anyone was thinking, it would make life very bland.

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        Sounds like anendophasia

        It is not considered a disorder

        If we were to make a computer to “read our minds” it would pick up on our internal dialog which people with anendophasia do not have.

        People with anendophasia are not dumb. They just think different.

        Like imagine a person that was born deaf. They can’t have a verbal dialog in their heads. They could imagine sign language, images, or words. But just because they were born deaf doesn’t mean their IQ is low. They just think different.

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          This is the best explanation of Bella’s mind silence I’ve seen.

          I’d add that Edward has likely seen many people with anendophasia and has had no issue reading their minds, but Bella might have an extreme form of it

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        I don’t recall any suggestion of their intelligence. Just that whenever Edward attempted to “read” her mind, he could never glean a single thought. It was a blank void.

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          spoiler alert

          Within the Twilight world, some humans have special abilities which are highlighted and enhanced if they become vampires. He couldn’t read Bella’s thoughts, but that’s because after she becomes a vampire they figure out she has a “shield” power which makes her immune to vampires with powers to effect the mind.

          She had thoughts, he was just blocked from reading them.

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              It’s like 5% actually interesting fantasy world building and 95% shitty romance.

              I actually enjoyed that 5% but not enough to read or watch the other 95% again.

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      Yes it’s fiction, but how would that even work? She would have to say every thought out loud. And even then how does she have emotions without any internal thoughts?

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        There is a sequence in New Moon that is a time jump of multiple seasons. There a literal like four blank pages that indicate the character, Bella, is in a catatonic-like state. She literally can’t form a response to what was occurring around her. Many readers assume this is a cheap way of doing a time jump but even the movie depicts Bella a catatonic state.

        I recall we get a sense of internal monologue but everything coming from Edward’s POV is lacking any depth or emotion. When Bella speaks, it is monotone. If you’ve seen the movies you’d think Kristen Stewart was giving a deflected performance that might suggest some disinterest in the role. Not saying I enjoy the movies or the books (as an adult), but this performance to me is spot on for how Bella is depicted.

        EDIT: Unrelated, the cars in the movies are not a product placement. Mayers wrote Edward driving a Volvo.

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          I watched it properly for the first time a couple years ago and I will say that it wasn’t the acting by Kristen or Robert that is what I remember as being bad about the movies. it was, well, probably everything else

          I don’t remember it being as bad as I expected tbh

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      Yeah maybe he’s stuck mentally to be some teenager with some sort of learning disorder and really needs that hundred+ years to grasp things

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    Vampire can live long life but they are decisivly a very mortal creature of fiction.