Not just a minor but person who might have a mental disorder/illness. In case you never read Twilight, the vampires have unique abilities, Edward’s being telepathy. When he meets Bella, he is unable to detect any thoughts from her. The entire book Bella is literally described as having no subconscious thoughts.
The books/movies make quite clear that Bella has a special power which makes her immune to Edward’s telepathy. It was a huge plot point of the second book.
To imply that she was like somehow cognitively disabled is both wrong and really weird…
And where does that “power” come from? I did not read the books or watched the movies. Niw that i think of it, hsving a random petson with some kind of power in a novel with vampires and werewolfes doesnt soun far-fetched
I’ve not read the books or seen the movies or anything, so I don’t have a clue what Edward is like.
The ‘minor’ issue is one thing (eek) but if I had the power of telepathy, I can only assume I’d be pretty fascinated by someone I couldn’t read.
Human interaction is kinda built on the supposition that you can choose what you share with others and keep private things private, and getting to know people is the process of getting comfortable in sharing more about ourselves. We feel happy around our friends because we feel we have a sense of them and know them, and that’s an earned process.
If you always knew what anyone was thinking, it would make life very bland.
If we were to make a computer to “read our minds” it would pick up on our internal dialog which people with anendophasia do not have.
People with anendophasia are not dumb. They just think different.
Like imagine a person that was born deaf. They can’t have a verbal dialog in their heads. They could imagine sign language, images, or words. But just because they were born deaf doesn’t mean their IQ is low. They just think different.
I don’t recall any suggestion of their intelligence. Just that whenever Edward attempted to “read” her mind, he could never glean a single thought. It was a blank void.
Within the Twilight world, some humans have special abilities which are highlighted and enhanced if they become vampires. He couldn’t read Bella’s thoughts, but that’s because after she becomes a vampire they figure out she has a “shield” power which makes her immune to vampires with powers to effect the mind.
She had thoughts, he was just blocked from reading them.
Go watch Hunter: The Parenting, one of the side characters is a vampire wizard named Kevin, he has a wizard gun. Also watch or listen to the audio logs they’re important, just not important enough to get fully animated most of the time.
They’re easy reads. Meyer had some interesting ideas and inspirations to write a story, but the depth and quality isn’t quite there. She’s even commented that looking back at the earlier books made her cringe. The other place she suffered is that when publishers got their hands on the first book, she explained she just wanted one follow up book, but they talked her into stretching the story into 4 because they felt it was going to be a hit.
It’s an easy comfort read that doesn’t ask you to look for deeper meanings in the story, it’s all right there for you.
Yes it’s fiction, but how would that even work? She would have to say every thought out loud. And even then how does she have emotions without any internal thoughts?
There is a sequence in New Moon that is a time jump of multiple seasons. There a literal like four blank pages that indicate the character, Bella, is in a catatonic-like state. She literally can’t form a response to what was occurring around her. Many readers assume this is a cheap way of doing a time jump but even the movie depicts Bella a catatonic state.
I recall we get a sense of internal monologue but everything coming from Edward’s POV is lacking any depth or emotion. When Bella speaks, it is monotone. If you’ve seen the movies you’d think Kristen Stewart was giving a deflected performance that might suggest some disinterest in the role. Not saying I enjoy the movies or the books (as an adult), but this performance to me is spot on for how Bella is depicted.
EDIT: Unrelated, the cars in the movies are not a product placement. Mayers wrote Edward driving a Volvo.
I watched it properly for the first time a couple years ago and I will say that it wasn’t the acting by Kristen or Robert that is what I remember as being bad about the movies. it was, well, probably everything else
I don’t remember it being as bad as I expected tbh
Not just a minor but person who might have a mental disorder/illness. In case you never read Twilight, the vampires have unique abilities, Edward’s being telepathy. When he meets Bella, he is unable to detect any thoughts from her. The entire book Bella is literally described as having no subconscious thoughts.
The books/movies make quite clear that Bella has a special power which makes her immune to Edward’s telepathy. It was a huge plot point of the second book.
To imply that she was like somehow cognitively disabled is both wrong and really weird…
And where does that “power” come from? I did not read the books or watched the movies. Niw that i think of it, hsving a random petson with some kind of power in a novel with vampires and werewolfes doesnt soun far-fetched
The movies make her out to be a total dumbass vs the books. I mean imo its mostly dumb overall but just saying the movies made her seem worse.
Also the actress literally only has 1 expression. 😐
But Edward wouldn’t have known that when they first interacted.
He did think she smelled bad. That was hilarious
“She’s dumb as shit and she stinks to high heaven… I’m in love.”
Putting the special in that special ability
I’ve not read the books or seen the movies or anything, so I don’t have a clue what Edward is like.
The ‘minor’ issue is one thing (eek) but if I had the power of telepathy, I can only assume I’d be pretty fascinated by someone I couldn’t read.
Human interaction is kinda built on the supposition that you can choose what you share with others and keep private things private, and getting to know people is the process of getting comfortable in sharing more about ourselves. We feel happy around our friends because we feel we have a sense of them and know them, and that’s an earned process.
If you always knew what anyone was thinking, it would make life very bland.
Last sentence is wrong.
So she described as an air head? Did author imply that she is stupid?
Sounds like anendophasia
It is not considered a disorder
If we were to make a computer to “read our minds” it would pick up on our internal dialog which people with anendophasia do not have.
People with anendophasia are not dumb. They just think different.
Like imagine a person that was born deaf. They can’t have a verbal dialog in their heads. They could imagine sign language, images, or words. But just because they were born deaf doesn’t mean their IQ is low. They just think different.
This is the best explanation of Bella’s mind silence I’ve seen.
I’d add that Edward has likely seen many people with anendophasia and has had no issue reading their minds, but Bella might have an extreme form of it
I don’t recall any suggestion of their intelligence. Just that whenever Edward attempted to “read” her mind, he could never glean a single thought. It was a blank void.
spoiler alert
Within the Twilight world, some humans have special abilities which are highlighted and enhanced if they become vampires. He couldn’t read Bella’s thoughts, but that’s because after she becomes a vampire they figure out she has a “shield” power which makes her immune to vampires with powers to effect the mind.
She had thoughts, he was just blocked from reading them.
This is the most interested in Twilight I have ever been!
And fuck this thread for making me want to read it a second time! I already know it’s garbage from the first time through!
Go watch Hunter: The Parenting, one of the side characters is a vampire wizard named Kevin, he has a wizard gun. Also watch or listen to the audio logs they’re important, just not important enough to get fully animated most of the time.
They’re easy reads. Meyer had some interesting ideas and inspirations to write a story, but the depth and quality isn’t quite there. She’s even commented that looking back at the earlier books made her cringe. The other place she suffered is that when publishers got their hands on the first book, she explained she just wanted one follow up book, but they talked her into stretching the story into 4 because they felt it was going to be a hit.
It’s an easy comfort read that doesn’t ask you to look for deeper meanings in the story, it’s all right there for you.
It’s like 5% actually interesting fantasy world building and 95% shitty romance.
I actually enjoyed that 5% but not enough to read or watch the other 95% again.
Yes it’s fiction, but how would that even work? She would have to say every thought out loud. And even then how does she have emotions without any internal thoughts?
There is a sequence in New Moon that is a time jump of multiple seasons. There a literal like four blank pages that indicate the character, Bella, is in a catatonic-like state. She literally can’t form a response to what was occurring around her. Many readers assume this is a cheap way of doing a time jump but even the movie depicts Bella a catatonic state.
I recall we get a sense of internal monologue but everything coming from Edward’s POV is lacking any depth or emotion. When Bella speaks, it is monotone. If you’ve seen the movies you’d think Kristen Stewart was giving a deflected performance that might suggest some disinterest in the role. Not saying I enjoy the movies or the books (as an adult), but this performance to me is spot on for how Bella is depicted.
EDIT: Unrelated, the cars in the movies are not a product placement. Mayers wrote Edward driving a Volvo.
I watched it properly for the first time a couple years ago and I will say that it wasn’t the acting by Kristen or Robert that is what I remember as being bad about the movies. it was, well, probably everything else
I don’t remember it being as bad as I expected tbh