• onionguy@lemmy.world
    2·
    10 hours ago

    Okay so hear me out.

    The only solution here is Peter

    Need to head out ? Oh ok lemme peter this document real quick.

  • SuperEars@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    21 hours ago

    Symbol of “the cross” with hover-over text in which Microsoft writes “pray I don’t amend it further.”

    For that future timeline when the meaning of Save becomes “stop working, let Copilot perfect it, and close”

    • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      14 hours ago

      I would also accept any other recognizable, removable media. Even a generic USB stick would be more relevant than a floppy disk.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      111·
      1 day ago

      Yet 90% of young people won’t know what it is because digital cameras have been replaced by phones and phones no longer have microSD lol

      • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 hours ago

        Digital cameras are in style again. I’ve seen screenless ones for sale at several places these past few weeks.

        • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
          1·
          11 hours ago

          In the dystopia of outer-worlds-esque orwellien-surveillance corporate feudalism it looks like they will have to endure, I think we can afford to lighten up on them 😂

  • leadore@lemmy.world
    44·
    2 days ago

    I think we should just keep the floppy disk symbol at this point, because it doesn’t matter what it was originally based on or whether that exists any more–everyone knows what that symbol means, and it can’t really be confused with anything else.

    There’s no point making an icon that looks like any other particular kind of storage device since those are changing all the time. So we either have to pick some real world thing like a safe or warehouse or grain silo or whatever. or invent some completely new symbol that’s not related to anything and then everyone would have to learn it. Which takes us back to just keeping the floppy disk symbol.

    • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
      31·
      1 day ago

      grain silo

      This is a hilariously awkward suggestion. At the scale of the average save icon, what do you think a grain silo symbol would look like?

        • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyzOP
          2·
          16 hours ago

          Honestly probably the most universally recognizable save symbol in the end, certainly if I had to go back in time and establish contact with an ancient people and teach them Intuit Quickbooks or other tax accounting software to run a cutthroat tax accounting operation using timetravel to access low cost labor that would be the icon I would choose for saving.

  • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
    1182·
    2 days ago

    I reject the question. That’s not a picture of a floppy disc, that is the glyph that means save

    You literally called it the save symbol. And that’s what it is…100 years from now, if we’re still around and still have computers, the save icon will still be some stylized glyph based on the floppy disc

    The existence of the floppy disc is already just a bit of trivia about the save icon

    It’s like asking what we should change the Bluetooth symbol to? Why do you yearn for the world to burn?

    An icon can be any random glyph, but it has to stay recognizable and consistent in meaning, that’s the entire concept here

      • HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.worldEnglish
        717·
        2 hours ago

        That’s for downloading though.

        Right.

        When you grab something from somewhere else and do “what” with that thing you “downloaded?”

        Like what are you doing with that file? ***ing it to your hard drive of some kind… what do you call that?

        To **** a file you downloaded?

        “Downloading” is how you acquire any external data to your internal storage media.

        Edit : Holy SHIT you guys seem to not like the logic I’m attempting to provide here or something.

        I know generally folks here are very intelligent, but all of you do know the basics of how a computer works, right? When you start typing something out, it’s happening in your RAM, right? And then when you want to SAVE that work you’re doing, you DOWNLOAD that work from RAM to the re-writable disk media of some kind? Hard drive, SD card, whatever…

        I personally LIKE the DISK ICON, but was just offering an answer to the request of “provide an alternative” and then backing it up with a logical explanation.

          • HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 hours ago

            Arguably, you are downloading something temporary that you’re doing in the RAM into your system’s more permanently writable disk for longer-term storage, but I know what you’re saying.

            To be clear, I personally like the disk icon, but the question presumes that you provide an alternative so that was what I did.

            Really all I’m saying is - if you had to twist my arm and do away with the disk icon - considering the abstraction involved with what the action ultimately represents, the “download” icon (down arrow + underline) is a close enough approximation that users (both new and old) could mentally map the action well enough to understand the logic.

          • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
            71·
            2 days ago

            But like, what if, you’re like … “downloading” the file … from memory … to disk? … man?

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 days ago

          You take an online thing and make it local.

          I understand how some younger folk might not see as stark a contrast in saving v downloading.

          I’d say if you’re 30+, you prolly do.

          “Downloading” is how you acquire any external data to your internal storage media.

          Aaahhaha. I didn’t even read that bit before writing my first lines, and that only confirms my doubts.

          Never seen these, eh?

        • howrar@lemmy.ca
          4·
          2 days ago

          Need to disambiguate between saving locally and saving directly to cloud storage.

          • HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 hours ago

            Need to disambiguate between saving locally and saving directly to cloud storage.

            I do agree overall, but it is less so these days as most modern applications where you’re creating something auto-save - either “in the cloud” or in a file recovery area set by the application.

            In a web browser, “saving” an image or video or whatever is the same as “downloading.”

            If you’re working on a document in something like Adobe - since most of their software now auto-saves your documents to their cloud service, “saving” is really just you creating another copy and bringing it to a specific location on you internal storage media… like downloading it.

            I do want to point out that I personally am fine with the disk icon being forever associated with “saving” since it went from being a skeuomorphic symbol for legacy users to an abstract one for newer users, but if you were to twist my arm - that’s my argument as to why the “download arrow w/ an underline” works as well…

            …though Jesus Christ - it seems that comment above where I was attempting to make that point is very contentious.

      • otp@sh.itjust.works
        413·
        3 days ago

        I still use folders to organize paper documents. Taxes and medical stuff mostly.

      • happydoors@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 days ago

        I agree. I heard recently a lot of kids under 20 grew up in an iPhone, iPad, and chrome world and never learned “folder” or directory concepts so it’s a tough transition in the work world. Paper organizers are not nearly as ubiquitous as they once were.

      • Caveman@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 days ago

        It connects it to another computer symbol, the folder which is seen plenty of times as the thing containing files. It’s a solid solution.

          • http404@lemmy.today
            1·
            23 hours ago

            i think in that case your should first click on a “folder with arrow going out” (move out) icon before given this one to move into another directory. so the context is clear.

    • Kaput@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 days ago

      Yea replace the 90s tech icon for the filing cabinet paper folder , from who knows when. It’s actually a good suggestions this technology still hasn’t disappeared. But it will soon, as foretold by the paperless office prophecies. So I think a half buried treasure chest icon would be better as a forever lasting icon.

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 days ago

      Is there an icon that expresses the default cloud save location as well as the circuitous GUI you need to navigate yo select your desired location on local storage?