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  • I didn’t want to come off pissed. I’m sorry if it was perceived like that

    You did not come across that way, just that you assumed I put in Merkel when I deliberately avoided putting her in, so in terms of tone and whatnot, there’s no problems.

    I guess people could interpret the decisions of Thatcher in multiple ways as well. Those people would be wrong though.

    With thatcher it’s a bit more straightforward for some of the things she did and it’s wide ranging impacts. I don’t think Merkel decimated entire regions of germany the way thatcher did to britain, even though she made some people very rich.

    Merkel may have made choices that had undesired impacts, but thatcher was really something else.



  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy

    A technocracy is a model of governance wherein decision-makers are chosen for office based on their technical expertise and background. A technocracy differs from a traditional democracy in that individuals selected to a leadership role are chosen through a process that emphasizes their relevant skills and proven performance, as opposed to whether or not they fit the majority interests of a popular vote.

    a system that lets the money guy call himself CTO.

    is probably more of an oligarchy or some other thing about rich people having power; technocracy is about getting people who know their shit run stuff that they know about


  • Well, here’s the thing. There is a story about a writing assignment, where a student is asked to describe a street. They find it difficult. So the teacher asks them to describe a house. They still struggle. The teacher asks them to describe a wall. They still struggle. The teacher asks them to describe a brick. The student finds all kinds of interesting details to describe in the brick due to its texture, shapes of pores, etc.

    The thing that you are missing is that the world around us is full of minuscule details and things that can spark our imagination and show us things if we sit there and consider them. These things are not created by auteurs, they simply exist, and its up to us to look at them in detail, and due to our humanity, we can extrapolate all kinds of ideas from them.

    When I say “those works are not expressing anything” I am saying that the majority of the expression is being done by the interpreter. The same interpreter could look at a blank wall, and due to the details within that wall, they could see and think about all kinds of different things.

    When someone goes for a walk in a naturally occurring forest, they have lots of different thoughts and emotions. Who is the artist?

    My proposition is that if you actually have the balls to call yourself a artist, you need to put in some actual fucking effort and actually do something better than a brick does by existing. Because if you don’t , and what you make gets called art, it destroys the fucking meaning of the word ART, since if everything is art, nothing is art; since nothing separates things that are art from things that are not art.

    The other point you are completely missing is that these works have value as instruction materials and thought experiments within the world of art to DEVELOP techniques; these works are unfinished and need to be contextualized in different ways in order to achieve something beyond possible techniques of applying paint to canvas. Take for example 4:33 by Cage; it is an effortless piece of shit that anyone can recreate, but it has value as a teaching material to let you be aware that silence in music is important, ambiental sounds can participate with and color your art in different ways, etc etc. It is not an expressive piece of music, but in terms of being a thought experiment to teach musicians, it’s very useful.




  • so you think that the purpose of visual arts is literally nothing more than to express emotions and aesthetic beauty?

    I actually indicated that there is another aspect to it, but since you’re not pointing out your ideas completely, I’ll let you go back to my post and see if you can get it through the non-subtly expressed text I wrote.

    here is an artist very clearly explaining to you that they got something out of these works that you obviously missed or did not perceive and you’re not even a little bit curious as to what it might be, already deciding that there is no way there is anything of value there, and I think that’s just very unfortunate

    Yeah, I’d care if the works were distinct enough to express different emotions instead of “I dumped the paint on the canvas randomly, without fine motor control, good thing I have buds in the CIA” which, BTW is the point of this thread.



  • do you know what a thought exercise is? You’re saying that you derived ideas from the works you cited, which is the entire point of a thought exercise. A thought exercise or an experiment in technique is different to a finished work; these fucking people belong in textbooks for artists, not museums, because they are not expressing anything. If you’re getting some emotions expressed at you from these works, you most likely get them from blank walls and stains in wood as well; you are the artist in that situation, not them.

    Have you ever considered that artist don’t actually owe you something?

    They owe me loads; I paid taxes which housed the works that pushed out the curative attention that society has a limited amount of, over works that would have been much more deserving and poisoned YOUR OWN FIELD OF ENDEAVOUR.

    Those fucking people literally ruined the world of paintings, and you’re there continuing to encourage them.




  • I’d probably reject PRs into my FOSS projects, because the aim is to put the code out there for other people to see and do what they want with it. I’m expressing myself, and sharing what I made; I’m not setting up a tentpole project for others to pitch in and take over on, and start managing their contributions and collaborate with them.

    If they want to take the code and do something with it, great. I don’t want to be involved in their endeavour.