A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.___

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    Remember folks, do not aim to get in fights, but if you must fight, make sure you finish it.

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    I got suspended for defending myself against getting hit in the head with a chair when I was a kid. School policies are totally fucked. Guess they just wanted me to stand there and sustain massive head trauma? Assholes.

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      Ya many schools have taken a zero tolerance route which means you don’t really get any punishment expect for expulsion. Something like that should have been handled in a much different way.

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      I got a friday night detention for throwing one punch at a student who was attacking me. I threw that punch after descalation did not work, and as soon as I saw a teacher I signalled for help. My dad confronted the vice principle who was the one who gave me the punishment and my dad asked him what I should have done. The VP told my dad I did as I should have and as what was expected, but that the school has a zero tolerance policy so I still needed to be punished.

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        Yep. I have been suspended twice for fighting. In both cases the other person hit me first. The first time it happened I didn’t even realize somebody had thrown a punch and had no time to even defend myself. The second time I did defend myself, but it literally involved pushing the person away.

        In both cases the school administration did not care and my parents went up to the school to make complaints.

        It’s bullshit, but this is exactly the problem. Schools have zero tolerance policies to protect themselves rather than to protect students.

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        Yep, if you’re getting suspended no matter what you do, might as well go to town so that everyone else is to afraid to try again next time because of what happened to the last attacker.

        Effectively, it’s an enticement to escalate violence rather than try and diffuse the situation once violence starts.

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          “They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago Way.”

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          We’ve a great phrase for that here:

          “May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb”

          (i.e. if you’re going to be hung it doesn’t matter if they call you a sheep or a lamb so press on)

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            10 hours ago

            I always understood that phrase as more like “no point in half measures if the consequences are the same”, because a lamb is a small sheep.

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              Yeah you could definitely take it that way. The first time I heard it I asked the lad what the hell it meant and that’s what he told me. Both fit in fairness.

              Edit: upon reflection I like your interpretation more

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      I’ve been hearing the argument that since it was AI, ‘it’s not real porn’. Which is the slimiest, scummiest argument I’ve seen.

      The second slimiest was that the girl deserves to be punished for fighting back after NONE of the adults at school helped her.

      Like, if she’d thrown hands right off she probably should have gotten a scolding, but she tried to get the adults to intervene. They’re the ones who made it clear to her that she had to handle it herself. So she did.

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        She doesn’t even deserve to get suspended for basically defending herself from someone making CSAM of her, let alone expelled. She was in the right and should’ve gotten off scott free, the guy making the CSAM is the one who should’ve been expelled, on top of getting bad-bad charges for it, which he did get charged for it.

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      The incident occurred at Sixth Ward Middle School in August when the school year began. The girl’s father, Joseph Daniels, and the attorneys say the young girl endured bullying after the deepfake nude image was circulated throughout the school.

      Not only child porn, but distribution of child porn too.

      Not a good look there LaFourche Parish School District, or the specific school in question!

      I hope she gets justice.

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    How is it acceptable anywhere for someone to be expelled for hitting someone else, in a scenario like this where the cause is completely understandable and justifiable? If anything, the kid making deepfake porn should be the one expelled because that kinda thing can be legitimately life-ruining for its target. The person being expelled had every reason, right, and justification to throw hands.

    I’m probably sounding like Ailurus here, but this is screwed up.

    Also, isn’t deepfake porn a crime in a lot of places even if it’s of adults, and not of kids like in this case, which CP is already hella illegal on its own?

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        So expel the victim of a potentially life-ruining act and also a potential crime, and not the person making the deepfake porn. That makes perfect sense. /sarcasm

        Really, that deepfake porn is going to do worse damage to someone who isn’t even in high school yet, than a slug to the face ever will; that black-eye will heal, the reputational damage caused by someone making deepfake porn of you, not so much, and deepfake porn is a crime in a lot of places to boot.

        Oh, and btw, that person was let back in on probation with that expulsion still on her record, if I were in charge of that school district, I would’ve expunged her record and let her back in with whatever achievements she would’ve had prior to expulsion fully restored, assuming that’s possible, as her acts were fully justifiable IMO, and instead I would’ve expelled the person making and posting the deepfake porn, and potentially pressed charges if deepfake porn is illegal in a given state/province, which is an act that’s far worse than slugging a person as it causes permanent damage to a person’s reputation; like I said, a black-eye will heal, reputational damage caused by deepfake porn won’t.

        UPDATE: Charges were pressed against the guy sending the deepfake porn.

        Lafourche Parish Sheriff said one student was charged with ten counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence in September.