I have no horse in this race but, as an observer, I would think it might have something to do with your immediate myopic judgement of strangers and willingness to share those judgements with vitriol, right off the bat. It’s off-putting for people who prefer meaningful discussion. Unlike reddit, people in the fediverse seem to NOT want to take out their trivial frustrations on every internet stranger they encounter, so that kind of behavior is typically frowned upon.
Interesting, i interpret the critique as my manners are “off-putting”. This aligns with what ive been calling ‘fetish’ ans ‘lust’ as it is not what i say, the meaning of the words, but the aesthetic taste. “off-putting” is analogous to being turned off by a date or disinterested in a meal. It’s an aesthetic, artistic thing. I am finding that online communication is 100% vibes (turn-on’s, turn-off’s, off-putting, good/bad taste) and 0% understanding (literal meaning of words, academic research behind assertions, logical validity). In short, your comment was helpful in helping me understand the audience and their limitations.
I think that’s an interesting bit of mental gymnastics you’re doing to tell yourself you’re taking the critique well, while also coming to the conclusion that you’re just more intelligent/ analytical than the people you’re talking to. This tells me that you might be a little lacking in emotional maturity, not that you’re too smart for people to understand you, or that words have lost their meaning. “Off-putting” is one way we describe behavior that ignores common human dignity/ mutual respect.
It’s not just about emotions, although emotions are a completely valid source of information and important factor (to varying degrees) in most interactions with other humans. People don’t want to waste their time talking to someone who’s opinions they don’t value. When you’re too quick to judge, you tend to miss things, so your judgement tends to be inaccurate. When you do that, and you’re so sure of your snap judgement that you’re willing to be rude to a stranger, you’re showing that person that you’re more interested in being right than trying to understand, so continuing the conversation is likely a waste of time.
Another thing is, “vibes”/emotions aren’t the new norm. Humans have always been this way. Before written language, we were deeply symbolic. Before spoken language, we communicated purely with “vibes”, essentially. To ignore this half of human interaction is a deeply illogical thing to do because it’s a surefire way to make sure no one will take you seriously or be willing to give you their time/ energy.
IMO, words haven’t lost their meaning. You’re probably just not communicating as affectively as you think you are. Finding, creating, and communicating meaning to others is kind of the main thing humans do, by default. Words don’t lose their meaning, they evolve to reflect and make sense to the people of the time. You’re being too rigid in your thinking, and missing a lot as a result.
I highly recommend you read some philosophy. I think Nietzsche would be a good start for someone grappling with the questions you’re asking.
Perhaps you have a rosier view of humans than i do. There seems to be an assumption that humans are good if you just talk correctly. I think tbis view is naive. I am a misanthrope. I do not believe humans are good. Good is to be like God, which is an impossble task for humans. 100% of humans are drentched in ordinary evil that they are in denial of, and i witness it every day. That is their default state.
I never said humans are good. I also completely disagree that 100% of humans are “drenched in ordinary evil”. What a hyperbolic claim… It sounds like you’re depressed and you’re allowing your mental state to completely warp your worldview. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s that everything has a balance. For all the evil in the world, there’s a near equal amount of good/ beauty. Trust that my worldview, nor my view of humans is rosy. I see evil and unnecessary hardship everywhere I look, everyday. But I have also largely broken free from the societal programming that taught me to only focus on the bad things in life. You can do that too, but it won’t happen as long as you’re still feeding your insatiable appetite for nihilism.
There’s an old proverb that’s both true, and relevant here which goes something like; all of us have two wolves inside of us. One full of light, love, and creativity. The other full of darkness, hate, and destruction. The one that grows is the one you feed.
I agree with dialetical thinking (good/bad) and choosing where to focus like on the wolves story. On my end, i am not depressed, but there is something true about having a hunger or thirst for expressing of and finding validation for misanthropy. This is different from nihilism because nihilism is a rejection of morals while i am an idealist / moralist. Focusing on neutral or positive things might be better than focusing on negative regardless if they are true or not, or how cathartic it is. Attention, focus… yeah i am reminded to exercise that muscle. The focus comment was a good insight.
Every accusation is a confession
and based on that thread I’m getting an idea of why you’re getting banned
What about this thread exactly? Speak. Articulate. Say something of substance.
I have no horse in this race but, as an observer, I would think it might have something to do with your immediate myopic judgement of strangers and willingness to share those judgements with vitriol, right off the bat. It’s off-putting for people who prefer meaningful discussion. Unlike reddit, people in the fediverse seem to NOT want to take out their trivial frustrations on every internet stranger they encounter, so that kind of behavior is typically frowned upon.
Interesting, i interpret the critique as my manners are “off-putting”. This aligns with what ive been calling ‘fetish’ ans ‘lust’ as it is not what i say, the meaning of the words, but the aesthetic taste. “off-putting” is analogous to being turned off by a date or disinterested in a meal. It’s an aesthetic, artistic thing. I am finding that online communication is 100% vibes (turn-on’s, turn-off’s, off-putting, good/bad taste) and 0% understanding (literal meaning of words, academic research behind assertions, logical validity). In short, your comment was helpful in helping me understand the audience and their limitations.
I think that’s an interesting bit of mental gymnastics you’re doing to tell yourself you’re taking the critique well, while also coming to the conclusion that you’re just more intelligent/ analytical than the people you’re talking to. This tells me that you might be a little lacking in emotional maturity, not that you’re too smart for people to understand you, or that words have lost their meaning. “Off-putting” is one way we describe behavior that ignores common human dignity/ mutual respect.
It’s not just about emotions, although emotions are a completely valid source of information and important factor (to varying degrees) in most interactions with other humans. People don’t want to waste their time talking to someone who’s opinions they don’t value. When you’re too quick to judge, you tend to miss things, so your judgement tends to be inaccurate. When you do that, and you’re so sure of your snap judgement that you’re willing to be rude to a stranger, you’re showing that person that you’re more interested in being right than trying to understand, so continuing the conversation is likely a waste of time.
Another thing is, “vibes”/emotions aren’t the new norm. Humans have always been this way. Before written language, we were deeply symbolic. Before spoken language, we communicated purely with “vibes”, essentially. To ignore this half of human interaction is a deeply illogical thing to do because it’s a surefire way to make sure no one will take you seriously or be willing to give you their time/ energy.
IMO, words haven’t lost their meaning. You’re probably just not communicating as affectively as you think you are. Finding, creating, and communicating meaning to others is kind of the main thing humans do, by default. Words don’t lose their meaning, they evolve to reflect and make sense to the people of the time. You’re being too rigid in your thinking, and missing a lot as a result.
I highly recommend you read some philosophy. I think Nietzsche would be a good start for someone grappling with the questions you’re asking.
Perhaps you have a rosier view of humans than i do. There seems to be an assumption that humans are good if you just talk correctly. I think tbis view is naive. I am a misanthrope. I do not believe humans are good. Good is to be like God, which is an impossble task for humans. 100% of humans are drentched in ordinary evil that they are in denial of, and i witness it every day. That is their default state.
I never said humans are good. I also completely disagree that 100% of humans are “drenched in ordinary evil”. What a hyperbolic claim… It sounds like you’re depressed and you’re allowing your mental state to completely warp your worldview. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s that everything has a balance. For all the evil in the world, there’s a near equal amount of good/ beauty. Trust that my worldview, nor my view of humans is rosy. I see evil and unnecessary hardship everywhere I look, everyday. But I have also largely broken free from the societal programming that taught me to only focus on the bad things in life. You can do that too, but it won’t happen as long as you’re still feeding your insatiable appetite for nihilism.
There’s an old proverb that’s both true, and relevant here which goes something like; all of us have two wolves inside of us. One full of light, love, and creativity. The other full of darkness, hate, and destruction. The one that grows is the one you feed.
I agree with dialetical thinking (good/bad) and choosing where to focus like on the wolves story. On my end, i am not depressed, but there is something true about having a hunger or thirst for expressing of and finding validation for misanthropy. This is different from nihilism because nihilism is a rejection of morals while i am an idealist / moralist. Focusing on neutral or positive things might be better than focusing on negative regardless if they are true or not, or how cathartic it is. Attention, focus… yeah i am reminded to exercise that muscle. The focus comment was a good insight.