Gee, I wonder why? Perhaps xenophobia and open hostility towards foreigners isn’t good for the tourism industry? Who could have possibly foreseen this outcome? 🤔🙄
I expect this trend to continue if the federal government moves forward with it’s plan to charge foreigners more money to visit national parks. One of the objectively best things about our country is our vast natural beauty protected by the federal government in perpetuity, and the national parks system is one of the few institutions that turns a profit every year and we still have the dumbass-in-chief trying to fuck that up too.
our vast natural beauty protected by the federal government in perpetuity
Well, for the moment, anyway…
You mean Trump is bad for business?
Which means all those people saying he’d run it like a business are…stupid?
Well, the idea of running a Constitutional republic “like a business” is stupid for a whole lot of reasons, but having Taco run it like one of his “businesses” is…next-level stupid.
You’re literally imprisoning tourists for the most minor shit, you silly dickheads. Of course that’s going to cost you money.
It’s a bit dangerous to come to the states right now
Especially if you hate cheeto and complain about him online.
No idea why a European would ever want to come here. The travel options there are much better and cheaper. Oh and you won’t get thrown into a foreign prison.
Throwing aside the current administration… There’s so much to see in the US. All the national parks and other sights. It’s a roadtripper’s dream. One of the most diverse countries as far as landscape and climate is concerned. We have Disneyland in Europe (Paris), but there’s Disney World in Florida which is way bigger (never been to either, not THAT big of a fan myself, but I know there’s loads of Disney fans). NYC, LA and SF are all great cities to visit I hear, though I’ve only been to NYC (lots of fun - there’s so much to discover just by walking around)
Now as a foreigner I’m slightly scared of the current admin despite being pasty white, so I’m not going to visit again anytime soon. But one day I would like to come back for sure. Until then… I do still have a LOT of Europe to discover as well, I’ve only spent any real time in my neighboring countries, others I’ve visited very briefly.
All those national parks are on the chopping block too now. Unless major changes happen it won’t be worth visiting in 10 years.
Throwing aside the current administration…
That’s not true, I noped out after they want pants on head insane after 9/11, you’re just seeing that amped up now. People just normalised it as they will this.
I spent quite a bit of time there and lived their briefly early this century but havent been back since.
There’s so much to see in the US.
Agreed but the worlds big place and lots to see
It’s a roadtripper’s dream.
Or nightmare because you’re forced to use a car, train travel is laughable and walkabilty is ridiculous in most places.
But to be fair for environmental and carbon emission reasons I don’t fly anymore and try not to drive unless it’s essential.
Slightly off topic, but If you have the time to travel; may I suggest looking into Interrail if you’re not already aware of it. An interrail pass would be the European equivalent to an american road trip imo.
One train ticket helped me cover places like Portugal, Spain, and Italy, all the way through to Switzerland and onto Hungary, Poland etc and back home all over the course of two weeks.
I was backpacking solo, so just looked up hostels in whatever city i ended up in on the day. But you could just as easily use it to plan a family itinerary. The actual ticket lasts a lot longer than a fortnight too; I’m just a slave to the machine and couldn’t get more time off.
I will once they finally build rail baltica lol, otherwise I’d need to fly anyway, or drive which makes luggage more convenient
Aside from politics, the US has a ton to offer for someone that wants to experience the world. The Rockies, Appalachian trail, Great plains, deserts, huge rivers and lakes, and a bunch of other natural beauties. Not that mountains and bodies of water don’t exist elsewhere, but when it comes to nature, there’s something for anyone that likes being out doors.
From a tourist side of things, places like Disney World, Universal, Las Vegas, New York City, and others just don’t have the same thing elsewhere. I’m more into the nature side, but lot’s of people really enjoy the big cities and amusement parks. The Rockies also offer some of the best snowboarding and skiing in the world, and there’s only 1 Appalachian trail.
Too bad politics makes all of that less safe for foreigners and is actively enshitifying nature.
I had a Finnish friend visit me in LA a few months ago and he had an absolute blast. There are still plenty good people and things to do and see in the US.
I live in the US and I still haven’t visited LA. The US is fun but right now we are just “not cool”.
Oh definitely not. We’re blisteringly uncool sadly
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It is risky to come here. You anything besides English and you could be having to deal with ICE and get kidnapped.
Anecdotal: traveling to the smoky mountains and rented some bicycles. Owner said rentals are down 30% compared to this time last year.
Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?
It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.
As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.
The reality is this:
They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.
As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.
I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.
The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.
We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.
We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.
Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our
regimegovernment.It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.
If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?
That’s not totally exact, France too.
And Russia and North Korea
Israel too, our greatest ally and friend to humanity.
I’d expect Israel to see the decline at 2024. For Russia I’d expect it to be at 2022. By 2025 these countries probably didn’t see a decline simply because they started from a low baseline.
More so for people with families. Individuals might be prepared to risk it but no one with kids is likely to.
Thats what happens when you’re a bunch of cunts
Yep. And also people not wanting to get human trafficked out to South Sudan or El Salvador.
Yeah…thats covered under being a bunch of cunts. Only a cunt would do that.
And not good ones like Australian cunts
Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…
Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy
Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…
Yep. That would definitely rank very fucking high for me if I was a non-USian who thought about coming here. Most especially if I wasn’t doing the Dark Forest theory of Internet use and/or if I was not white/xtian.
These assholes are wanting to log in to devices at the border and are trolling for political content.
https://apnews.com/article/internet-privacy-smartphones-travel-e0a3146ae7966ea0e4157dbfae1f6a81
Really? Not even countries in open war saw a decline?
I doubt many people are sad that they had to cancel their trip to South Sudan lol
2025…
Depends how you define “tourist,” I suppose.
Hoping my flight to visit the US this fall has empty seats.
(I’m a US citizen who has not been back to the states for over 5 years. Going to visit family and meet 2 of my sister’s children.)
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
You might be in luck, I just rode the AA56 Mia - Heathrow and there were more than a couple rows of seats with one lucky guy. Seats open here and there as well, not a packed flight to the point where overhead bins who are usually crammed were open and some still could fit stuff.
First time in about 10 years traveling I’ve seen this.
I’ve been lucky with this particular flight before having the entire row, but it’s been years and I’m doing a different airline this time, so hopefully it plays out the same way.
By then, ypud better delete all your social media post just to make sure you dont lose your citizenship over some random like of a trump meme
Correction, you WERE a US citizen!
-ICE, probably.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
Believe me, I understand. And I’m sure a lot of other people do, too.
I do a lot of online language exchange. I have dual citizenship, but if anyone asks, I’m Canadian.
P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.
You did. I live here and my reaction to your post was l, “Why the fuck would you willingly come here?”
Don’t give the fascists a reason to imprison you
Ew gross, you are going to the US, on purpose!? 🤣
