First time ever that I hope Rand Paul is correct. Don’t threaten me with a good time Rand Paul!
We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years.
I sure fucking hope so, you piece of shit.
What will probably happen is a one or two term slump. What’s different between then and now is the internet and social media, which fills most people’s brains with a deluge of noise. In addition to the effects of misinformation daily telling people that the moon is the sun, most algorithms prioritize novelty, and nothing’s more novel than the most stupidly wrong-headed take. We constantly hear the opinions of people who should be laughed out of the room! We sit and chuckle, but there’s tens of millions of people who have poor media skills who it can actually influence.
This depends on what safeguards (if any) are put in place after he’s kicked out, and if we’re still stuck with two opposing ‘teams’ that are both purely beholden to the oligarchs.
Germany stayed fascist-resistant for a long, long time. But they were compelled to.
If he actually moves against Canada and/or Mexico and others step in, that could happen again.
This also assumes the outcome of such a move is not in his favor. (which i’d like to think is likely
The optimist angle would be that Trump is secretely a Democrat agent, and that by crashing the stock market he just thinks it’s over-valued and wants to return to 2018~ levels.
Ah what a nice fantasy to cogitate on for a few moments
Oh no!
… Anyway.
I don’t think they need to worry, the dems like losing a lot more.
I used to be a swing voter before Trump, after this admin, I will never vote for a Republican again. Especially since most support him.
Guess who is using data illegally gathered from social security to prevent legal voters from voting? If you guessed the king in orange you’d be right.
They have been purging voter rolls all over the country for a long time now. But their methods have vastly improved recently. In the swing states last year they purged 3.5 million voters. In the midterms next year they want to challenge the eligibility of everyone.
Only voters with a passport or original birth certificate would be allowed to vote.
I will go to my grave before I support a Republican for anything. I wouldn’t vote for a Republican for street sweeper.
I feel the same about both parties. I won’t vote for either, ever again
So they get power and do a bunch of shitty things. Then no one wants them in power anymore. Seems the country was doing quite well without them at the helm. Now…not so much.
Is this sarcasm? The country was doing quite well … for whom?
Trump causes the Republican Party to be on the verge of disappearing
Me: Trump Hero or Villain
So, there is a silver lining?!
Notice how he worries about HIS job… he couldn’t care less about the harm to the country or the people
Don’t threaten us with a good time…
Really? I don’t think your idiot voters will remember for longer than 5 years. And with an opposition like the Dems it’ll be easy for you to get back into power. Don’t overestimate the Americans. We all made that mistake once.
Inshallah
It would be too soon, if we got rid of them and these Corpo Dems. We could remove citizens United and few other worthless pieces of legislation. That and stop this fucking election tampering in the name “stopping fraud” fucking clowns making voting a single day during the work week and these Red hatted goons cheer for this shit like the mouth breathing inbred ghouls they are because they hate everyone else is beyond annoying.
Citizens United wasn’t legislation, it was a Supreme Court decision. The only way to fix it following the current rules is to ask the court again or to change the Constitution. Of course, if you are willing to just ignore laws then you have many options (see current Presidential administration for examples).
The court itself is beyond redemption. You and I both know there is only one way out of this
No. Congress absolutely has the authority to enact legislation that overturns a court decision, even the Supreme Court.
However, the disgusting piles of human shaped filth currently making up the Supreme Court would find some illogical excuse for why said law is unconstitutional. But only once one of there lackeys manages to appeal the issue all the way up the chain. But this process IS utterly corrupt and subverts the Constitution…not like they care. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But courts are given authority only to interpret existing legislation; their decisions do not restrict the legislature’s authority to enact new laws. Thus the convoluted shit they come up with to abuse the appeals process, as mentioned.
Hawaii was recently successful in enacting state laws to limit campaign contributions. I’d hope that other states willing to tackle the fight could do the same. The biggest chance would be if it could be done in battleground states.
Not sure why you were downvoted for stating facts, guess they hurt someone’s feelings as a certain annoying little gremlin loved to say
Republicans should be wiped out. Fools, monsters, and traitors. They’ve done incalculable damage to the world and all those who live here.
Every Republican that dies should be cause for celebration.
And pray tell why do you not include the Demonrats in your statement? Do you not agree that the Democrats are 100 percent complicit?
Squares and rectangles.
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
All republicans are fools/monsters/traitors, but not every Democrat is. Some are. But not all.
Maybe when the MAGA dorks try to convince us this is short term for long term gain; what they don’t realize is ousting the republican stranglehold on the country is the long term gain.
If they do, I’ll remind them of all the times Democrats reduced the deficit for long-term gain, and then Republicans pointed only to last year’s DJIA.
Look, I’m pissed too, I want them tf out of power and I want them to face consequences for what they’ve done. But celebrating the death of every Republican is more than a little extreme. The top dogs / those responsible? Sure. But let’s not go calling for the deaths of our countrymen - who are, tbh, blind fools who’ve been brainwashed by propaganda. That doesn’t make them worthy of death. I’d recommend avoiding turning the heat straight to 100 unless you want to watch our country walk an even darker path in coming years. If you’ve convinced yourself that’s the outcome you actually want - of civil war and all the other fucked up shit that tends to come with war - then you’re your own type of blind fool.
We don’t have to go door to door shooting everyone registered R. The leadership should definitely go up against the wall.
But every person that votes R is voting for climate disaster, unchecked pandemics, rolling back decades of medical science, violence against queer folks and other minorities, and other horrors.
They might not be a comically evil person who kicks puppies and steals candy from babies, but they’ve thrown what little power they have behind tremendous evil. When that stops, that’s a win.
I concede I could amend my previous statement that they don’t need to die. We can also celebrate them leaving the party and changing themselves so they’re not doing evil anymore.
Have you ever considered that this hostile attitude you show towards individuals is exactly what the system wants out of you?
What feels like resistance is actually just maintenance of the status quo. The elites have replaced class consciousness with culture war. Instead of hostility towards individuals who have been led to believe falsehoods through information warfare and weaponized insecurity, why not aim that hostility towards the systems in place that intentionally makes people afraid and angry?
If we wanted to get a little more psychoanalytical about it- this hatred of the individual who has been duped is pathological. It’s sort of like the Nazi and the Jew. The Nazi needs the idea of the Jew to maintain the Nazi world view. Certain excesses are only justified if you have an omnipresent internal enemy. By placing the Republican voter as the villain, you put yourself in the position of moral superiority.
By placing him down, you put yourself up. But really, I believe this may be subconscious projection. Because you are just as guilty and complicit in maintaining the system as the Republican voter. It’s hard to fix the cognitive dissonance of that position. All of us work, pay rent, pay taxes, buy products, post online, etc- we are tiny cogs that moves the machine forward.
So the elites have created an easy safety valve for that cognitive dissonance. Blame the others. Your life sucks? It’s illegal immigrants. Your life sucks? It’s Republicans. Your life sucks? It’s the gays. Your life sucks? It’s the Miami Cubans. And so on and so on.
Until the working class unites and redirects the hostility towards the pillars of power that keep us in line, there will never be any meaningful change in this country. This hostility you and other users show towards Republican voters is ironically supporting the very thing you claim to hate. We’re doomed to endlessly loop around a Möbius strip.
Because you are just as guilty and complicit in maintaining the system as the Republican voter
This is false
Your life sucks? It’s Republicans.
This is actually true. The ultra wealthy that keep us in this hellscape are republicans. They have much of the blame. But the low level people who keep voting for them also have some of the blame.
Blaming the queers (for example) is a total non-sequitur. They’re just living life. The republicans are dismantling the government, ending vaccination programs, and rolling back environmental protections. They are for real doing actual harm right now. It is not the same as the imaginary harms “the jews” do. People would make up stories about nefarious evils of jews, but meanwhile the republicans are right there on TV doing evil. There was a nazi salute. There was an insurrection. These are things that happened.
The working class republicans are class traitors. They should realize that our interests align, but they don’t, and they are actively doing harm.
If you have ideas on how to instill class consciousness in the kind of people who vote against their interests, let’s hear it.
Honestly I’m beginning to wonder if this site hasn’t been invaded by reddit. Are you saying the democrats are going to fuck all about climate change? if so you are seriously deluded
I’m sorry. My grandpa taught me the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. He was a smart dude
Now we’re talking.
I wouldn’t disagree. But not every Republican is on board with or even aware of what’s happening. As someone who’s escaped a cult, it’s hard to see through a smoke screen of propaganda, misinformation and dogma when you’re surrounded by it. Getting us to fall into left vs right, black vs white etc camps and fight each other to the death is exactly what the rich elite (our actual enemies) want to happen. I’d recommend Andrew Callaghan’s film “Dear Kelly” for a first hand look at what this looks like in action; how an otherwise innocuous, well meaning citizen can be brainwashed by far right propaganda and how quickly they can lose touch with reality - as well as how they can be brought back from that brink.
People are nuanced and groupthink is holding us back as a species. Hold the grand old party to task, and put on blast all those who have been profiting off of the suffering of others and leading the destruction of society. But don’t lower yourselves to their level and paint everyone on the other side of the fence the same shade, or miss the nuances of how these people are being manipulated, and by whom.
The manipulators are the problem. Not the manipulated.
I do agree they are sheep misled. But a penchant for being a Nazi does not a good citizen make.
This soft approach after the civil war is why we are here again.
This reminds me of the Myth of the Clean Wehrmacht. In short: No, not so many of them are victims and puppets.
There are some cases where people are pulled out of cults by exposure to outside opinions. Anyone among the Republicans that has frequently had that exposure, on some level (for instance, hearing arguments from Democratic senators prior to votes) agrees with and wants the destruction.
Do you not think it’s a little hyperbolic to claim that every single member of the Republican party is a Nazi deserving of only death?
I mean, sure, it feels great to sound like a tough guy on the Internet, but you’re talking about tens of millions of Americans.
I 100% believe in what I said and so do the mass majority of Americans.
The mass majority of Americans absolutely do not believe in putting to death every Republican.
I said Nazis. You said republicans.
That’s a confession
I understand that you feel the conclusion is disturbing. Can you elaborate on what part of their reasoning is confusing?
I suppose the part that leads to mass murder.
Do you think it’s murder to kill a Nazi?
