Can someone explain the benefits that GOP are trying to achieve with this rule? Does the censoring somehow provide an advantage to their popularity?
I think it is part of making government agencies ineffective to prove their ideology that these agencies should be abolished and replaced with private companies (or not at all). That way, they can say come election time, “See? Government can’t do these things well. We should eliminate these agencies.” Many people will forget they are also the reason the agencies are shitty.
They have tried this with underfunding them in the past mostly. This is a much more direct approach.
At one point Trump literally suggested reducing reported Covid cases by just not testing. They genuinely think the important thing is not to talk about it.
Its how conservatism works.
If it makes you feel uncomfortable, sweep it under the rug and ignore it. Nothing is allowed to be bad or need fixing, nothing is allowed to change or be different, thats all scary.
What troubles me the most is that sounds like a very deeply abused person. It’s a kind of person that has problems introspecting and managing their emotions. Is that what we’re really up against? Is it all just mental illness?
Trumps first term was stymied by an extremely inconvenient global pandemic.
He doesn’t want to be undermined by subject matter experts again
They’re taking things out from Hungary’s (and Russia’s) playbook. Your voters cannot fault you for something they don’t know about.
Voters usually have a pretty good idea of whats happening but it’s part of a general malaise of misinformation.
Erm…no.
The order is only in effect until February 1.
I’d be curious about it if it was longer but a 1 week freeze is probably about reducing miscommunication during the gov transition.
Biden instituted a similar rule for 60 days:
Biden instituted the rule because he was taking over the administration from ignorant, conspiratorial hands. I highly doubt the same care is needed here. Please refrain from telling people to “calm their tits.”
Clam your tits bro
You’re boring.
MMWR (Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report) has been put on hold, for the first time in it’s 60 year history.
“On January 23, 2025, the CDC failed to release a new weekly issue of MMWR for the first time in the publication’s over 60-year history. The failure was a direct result of the second Trump administration ordering an indefinite “pause” on public communications by all branches of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. “Preventing CDC from publishing scientific data via the MMWR represents a radical departure from protocol that will undermine the public’s trust in the Trump Administration,” Jennifer Nuzzo, who runs the Pandemic Center at Brown University, wrote.[25]”
But yeah, it’s all cool. /s No IT’S NOT! I’m not sure how this can undermine public trust, if there wasn’t any to begin with. It only confirms that disaster will be arriving soon. And the Fed isn’t going to be much help. Work within your communities, mutual aid will be what keeps us afloat.
For example: https://mastodon.social/@Bellison22/113900490620796296 and: https://www.theskimm.com/news/reproductive-rights-gov
This is scary. Why would someone want to hide that specific information ahead of time? Also, that someone is a puppet of an enemy state and couldn’t have mishandled the previous infectious disease outbreak any worse. And last time, he disbanded the federal epidemic team before COVID came out. This is like evil-villain level foreshadowing.
If you care about your health or your family’s health, yall need to move to a blue state quickly and hunker down for the next 4 years. This madman is going to do everything he can to weaken and separate the union. We need to switch from progress to containment mode.
Or, you know move out of range of the union at all
What an easy task! Let’s uproot the entire family’s social bonds and connection to the culture because the president for the next four years is a piece of shit. Possibly learn a whole new language, possibly set the kids back years in school, possibly lose a career, possibly have to be poor for years while studying for certification exams, possibly deal with xenophobia. Spend thousands of dollars to see if you can get approval. Forever be an immigrant on someone else’s land if you’re lucky. Prove to Trump and your soon-to-be old neighbors you really disapprove with this one easy step 👌
Well, there may be an imminent incoming pandemic, or it’s just normal fascism things, like turning off all public information and then whitelisting propaganda-safe data to be turned back on when it’s vetted. Can’t really tell which possibility is a worse sign of things to come.
Could be any disaster:
- turn off WHO
- disband FEMA
- disband Aviation Safety Committee
Now there’s no one left to say the administration handles the next disaster poorly
That’s what I can’t stand about these types of people. There’s never any definite anything because they are working on constant contingency, so one can’t prepare. You just have to be ready for everything at all times. It’s exhausting.
Definitely a fascist thing.
Two things can be true.
They want to outsource and privatize everything, lining their friends pockets and getting kickbacks. “Small government”, huge industrial complex contractor.
The whole “the cruelty is the point” thing is so foreign to me. It isn’t difficult to cause hardship with clean intentions. To cause intentional pain broadly and blindly just doesn’t make sense to me. And I can “devils advocate” and try to empathize fairly well (hard to know if that’s true without acting like a creeper).
Global dominance?
Nope you have seen it in school unless you were home schooled or something. Kids call names and punch for no reason except they are hurt inside and they want to hurt others. We know this is the same because Trump told us over and over. He is sad and angry and will hurt people now that don’t have anything to do with him. You chose this together and I don’t know how you now ask what is this. It is what you chose together
If you think I asked for this or supported others in choosing this, you are incorrect. I’ve been pushing for Bernie for 15 years.
The USA voted for him to do this to them
Hey I got you. But you make yourself look like a fool to reduce the situation to such binary terms.
The US CDC, one of the crown jewels of American science and democracy, world leader in it’s field, savior to millions, ruined by a mobbed up failed casino owner and real estate developer from Queens
Ruined by Republican voters who would rather make sure the immigrants are punished than survive the next bird flu.
By racists who feel the need to push down their fellow man than save them.
I’ve already been assured by them that the bird flu doesn’t exist.
I should note this is occurring in discussions about egg prices.
Kansas currently has an outbreak of drug resistant TB.
There’s also the possibility of pulling coverage of PREP/doxy/other medications designed to prevent STIs from insurance coverage. This would devastate the gay community, which is why they would do it.
I’ve been watching this really interesting older docuseries about an illegal alien who was adopted by a Kansan farmer. It really highlights the lengths the rich will go to when they feel justified in their own actions. Makes me wonder if this new TB strain isn’t just the newest bio-weapon introduced by the state’s leading plutocrat.
Times like this are why I’m glad I live in a blue state. Not that it will ship the problems, it even slow then down. The Orange Idiot is going after Chicago right now like he’s got a vendetta, and diseases don’t care about imaginary lines.
Can’t have a crisis if we don’t call it a crisis.
Special Health Exercise
Three days tops.
“If you can’t see it then it isn’t happening!”
That’s the logic he applied to covid testing.
Wouldn’t want to have to go shutting any business down, people can fall profits must never fall
Priorities!©®™
Oh man I don’t remember the last time I watched the matrix. And now I know what I’m doing tonight.
Watching the cave rave over and over with no pants on
Hey, no kink shame in my game man
So are any CDC staff working on ways to get word out on threats outside of the officially-gagged channels?
I would rather they don’t lose their jobs by doing so, but civil disobedience is absolutely called for here.
They want to outsource and privatize everything, lining their friends pockets and getting kickbacks. “Small government”, huge industrial complex contractor.
I would presume they can use their personal accounts. Or set up an alternate org outside of US jurisdiction.
Well, it seems it’s already set up:
The word of a pandemic would spread regardless of CDC. When Covid started there where rumors in Europe (Jan 2020) of people dropping dead on the streets in China. By February there where videos of tourists in China going around with masks because everybody else was. A word spreads faster than a virus.
Shit we already seeing it real time. Facebook recently banned anything related to Linux.
I was going to call bullshit but damn if you aren’t right.
Zuck & Microsoft can eat my self hosted dongle.
Lolwut?
I deleted my Facebook some years ago, and so don’t have the means to double check this. Is this for real?
Linux is all too woke for Fascistbook with the penguins, furries, and long socks.
We all going to be deported to Linus’ house for not using Microsoft spyware. All because some Chinese AI shook Zuck’s AI investors.
Ignorance Is Strength!
In a country where being asleep is seen as better than being woke, you get what you deserve.
🎖
What historic disease do y’all plan on catching in the new post-medicine era? Consumption looking hot this time of year!
My doctor’s always bitching that I need to lose weight, so this could work. If not though I hear that antibiotic resistant flesh eating bacteria is a horrible way to die.
My doctor did too. Then I developed an eating disorder. Now they want me to gain weight. Make up your mind, doctors.
well, I hope we don’t end up having a global lockdown again, but if we do, I’ll be sure to call it the America Pox or Trump Flu or something polemic
There won’t be lock downs in the US this time.
States and cities still can. Buisnesses can decide to as well. Groups and individuals can also lock themselves down. Basically: communities.
In theory they can, but when a trump backed federal government and law enforcement is breathing down their neck with implicit threats of court cases and funding cuts I wonder if a lot of places will want to do anything.
Hopefully if your area did well during covid, it’ll do well agian.
My area was forced to do well by our governor, which naturally meant they wanted to thank her by plotting to kidnap and murder her.
That’s… uh
For those unfamiliar with this story:
On October 8, 2020, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announced the arrests of 13 men suspected of orchestrating a domestic terror plot to kidnap American politician Gretchen Whitmer, the Governor of Michigan, and otherwise using violence to overthrow the state government. Some have labeled the attempt as an example of stochastic terrorism, where violent rhetoric by prominent figures inspired the plot.
Just corpses littering the street, and chants of “fake news”
there weren’t any us based lockdowns last time
Do you mean federal? Cause I’m not sure about that, but there were lockdowns for sure in the us
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_responses_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic
I’m not quite sure why I’m getting downvoted for this, during the covid19 pandemic, there wasn’t a single federally mandated lockdown in the united states of america, ever, not one
That’s quite different from your broader claim above.
Pox Americana
Please, 48% of voters didn’t agree with this at all.
Give credit where it’s due and feed his narcissism too: Trump Flu!
A lot of people in Nazi Germany didn’t vote for it either, nobody remembers them as anything but Nazis.
Other countries don’t have the time or patience to be checking every fucking US refugee to make sure they have the correct politics.
Nope, we’re all going to be assumed to be just as dangerous as the rest of these fucking Nazis. Don’t get it twisted. It’s not their fucking job to do the legwork to figure out we’re not pieces of shit. Easier to just close the borders to dipshit Nazi Americans.
It’s like those sayings about if you have 9 Nazis and one regular person at a table you have 10 Nazis at a table or how about if you allow Nazis into your bar, soon enough it will just be known as a Nazi bar, because they’ll start to bring their friends once they’re comfortable.
Look, it’s not nice to admit, but because we’re US citizens, we’ve got a seat at the same table as these motherfuckers in the eyes of the rest of the world. They don’t see a table with half nice people and half Nazis, they don’t have the time or effort for that, they just see Nazis and I couldn’t blame them one bit.
As a non-American, I can confirm. My personal opinion of Americans has been declining sharply for the last decade, and last year’s election was the final nail. The average American is a brain-dead magat who puts a greater importance on hurting brown people than helping anyone. It’s a shithole country.
48% of voters is an internal US matter and the USA is represented by Trump, who has already speed run to Russian level censorship, expansionism, hate, and authoritarianism.
The guy forces release of a low-confidence report blaming a lab leak and forbids the CDC from cooperating with the WHO in the same week. This is world-level abandonment, probably out of stupidity so that the US profits on drugs without considering that the USA is robbing the world of some of its best scientists.
More than a third of eligible voters didn’t vote. They were fine with either outcome.
I wonder if they’re still feeling the same way.
This seems like a good thread to ask someone to find/make a RSS feed of WHO Disease Outbreak News. https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news
For starters I’d recommend FreshRSS to selfhost your RSS feeds https://github.com/FreshRSS/FreshRSS
And for the creation of one I’d recommend looking into RSS-Bridge https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge?tab=readme-ov-file
RSS-Bridge lets you make RSS feeds for sites that don’t have one.
Woah hadn’t ever thought about selfhosting RSS, thanks
Thank you! I’m content to use Nextcloud News for my feed aggregate, but that bridge seems super helpful for various purposes.
*American federal health agencies.
It’s like they think the entire world lives under their mandate
Don’t know how much it’s going to count for when the h5n1 pandemic hits, but it’s probably going to be easier to get a flu vaccine now than any time moving forward, so probably wanna take care of that sooner than too late.
You probably already know this but for clarity it sounds like the flu shot won’t protect you from h5n1
Yup, that’s what was implied in the first part. Depending on the genetics of a pandemic h5n1 though, the possibility does exist that current vaccines might be better than nothing at least. Even a 1% difference is huge on population scales.
From what I read it doesn’t cover h5n1 but being vaccinated against the other flu variants obviously prevents you getting both h5n1 and some other preventable illness at the same time.
You’re dead right though, getting a flu shot is a good way to be prepared.
General preparedness for h5n1 has been in the back of my mind for a while but your comment has motivated me to tick a few things off the list.
I’ll order up some masks, sanitiser, and TP.
I had a flu shot a few months ago, but probably due for a covid top up.
