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    The USA is the only country in the world that hasn’t ratified the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, in good part because they don’t want to have to stop executing children.

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    He was prepared for execution by electric chair, using a bible as a booster seat because Stinney was too small for the chair.

    This sentence alone says a lot about the humanity involved.

    Wretched human beings.

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    To be clear these photos are from a dramatization of the execution. Here’s a Facebook post saying so, I’m sure a more in depth search would turn up a better source

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      Oh, it was always worse. But it does always get better. They’ll say it about us one day; so long as we aren’t currently approaching the finish line of society as it stands.

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        But remember that with the whole “the arch of history bends towards justice” it does not do it on its own. There is no rule in the universe that says that. It only bends if we are the ones actually bending it.

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            Not necessarily. It could express that over time enough people will always “bend the arch”. It’s still not a passive thing that just happens. But even then it could make you complicit if you don’t understand that you can influence how fast it bends.

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          I think it cycles better/worse/better/worse with an incremental trend towards better

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            Bingo. And in reference to our entire history, I don’t see why it would suddenly be any different forr singular generations. It’s so much a pattern set in stone that it could be said it is our nature.

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      Whose this “we” – I’ve been anti death penalty since before I could vote because I have never been able to forget.

      I would go so far as to say not only is the death penalty anti American, any one who wants the death penalty to remains needs to be added to a pool from which some is randomly executed; affirming their resolve and devotion.

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        It’s really weird how some people can take any kind of statement, no matter how well meant, and make it about themselves. You aren’t even the first.

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          It’s really weird how people use sloppy language in their statement and then are upset about it.

          Then they ignore the rest of the comment because they are too triggered to do otherwise. Then end the comment by making about exactly what they claimed the first one wasn’t about.

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            People aren’t computers. The statement was general, not about the death penalty. You completely failed and wanted to make it about yourself and have an argument.

            That’s completely silly. But you know, whatever you say, this is crazy. Have a nice day, hope you relax and take it easy. Bye.

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              What the fuck are you talking about?

              The post is about the death penalty and you related mentioned how “we” forgot how barbaric governments are.

              I mentioned I’ve never forgotten and therefore not part of that “we” and brought it back to the death penalty, you know, the actual topic of this thread.

              Talk about silly, crazy and making things about yourself. The only explanation for all this is that “we” was referencing all the voices in your head.

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    I wonder what the people putting a child in the electric chair thought and felt

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      They thought, “ah shit, he’s not tall enough - grab that bible, we can boost him up higher.”

      Yes, really.

      The USA was far too kind to the Confederate states post-war. The racism has been allowed to fester - and in many cases thrive ever since.

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    I’d rather use, “cooked alive”, instead of “executed”.
    Would be more accurate and help understand what the act entails.

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    … this needs to be nsfw. This is a horrific image of someone’s last moments as they’re about to be murdered. People need to be able to decide if they are able to see it.

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      The image is from a short film: https://youtu.be/5iL1f-jV32A

      George Stinney’s execution is an example of how terrible we can be to each other. It has been depicted on screen a couple of times and is always gut-wrenching to watch. I just wanted you to know that this is not actual footage of him.

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      I’m not sure we should be allowed to look away from our past and transgressions. You’re uncomfortable. That child is dead.

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        There’s a real fuzzy line between confronting people with evidence of our brutality and just normalizing that brutality

        Also, I feel like on this network more than others you’re just showing this to people who are already fully aware that horrific racist violence like this has happened and is happening

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        Black people’s lives are treated with less sanctity and respect than white people’s. Images of violence done to black bodies is normalized and spread to justify further violence and spread fear. I’m not “trying to look away”, I’m trying to denormalize the murder of a black child.

        If this was a white child, their face would be blurred. This moment of fear and evil would be kept away from the public out of respect for the family. Their family wouldn’t need to fear stumbling across the photo of their last moment just so the public can learn about their dark society.

        Yes, we need to confront our dirty secrets, but that doesn’t conflict with the desire to respect the victims of brutality.

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        The title is enough. It should be NSFW.

        There’s also no “we”. Everyone involved in that is long, long dead. I didn’t have anything to do with it.

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          I disagree entirely. You can only say I didn’t have anything to do with it if you learn from it as a culture and moved on. We still do this. We execute innocent people all the time. We didn’t learn from it. We kept doing. It’s actively going on. It’s not something in the past we can dissociate ourselves with. This isn’t something you didn’t have anything to do with, this is something you still have something to do with. We all do.

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          Yeah, the idea that people I’ve never met who did something I don’t agree with decades before I was born define me as a person because we’re from the same country is…weird.

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      When people tell you who they are, believe them. Nobody saying that today has any blame for what came before. Kids born in nazi Germany went on to distrust their Nazi parents and made some of the best music of the 20th century. You can afford to give some people some grace.

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    This is absolutely horrific and a stain on humanity itself. And there is another aspect that isn’t always brought up is cases of injustice like this. The police, lawyers, judges, and everyone else involved in the murder of this young boy, were quite literally covering up for the real murderer(s) of those girls. Whoever killed those girls went free, perhaps to kill again, because of the racist motivations of those involved in the trial and execution of this poor, scared, kid.

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      The first part of your sentence is racist. Please don’t disparage an entire group of people for something they did not choose.

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        Except an overwhelming amount of a specific large group DID choose, continue to choose, and are complicit with.

        What’s the overwhelming color of the ICE agents?

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          Your reading comprehension is shite.

          The commenter that replied to you meant not to disparage an entire group based off of something they can’t choose, which in context was their skin color.

          So no, an overwhelming amount of people didn’t choose that, they were born with it. You racist ass dingus.

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          “The majority of people in prison are black.”

          “The majority of rapists are men.”

          Does that make it ok to hate on all men, or all black people? I think not.

          Most ICE agents may be white, but most white people are not ICE agents - and even if they were - which they’re NOT - it still wouldn’t be fair to hate on all white people, including the minority good people (which is actually the majority in real, non hypothetical, life), just because of what some other people in that group did.

          And you can add that to the fact that no one, not even albinos, is truly ‘black’ or ‘white’ either, we’re all shades of desaturated orange.

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          What’s the overwhelming color of the ICE agents?

          What’s the overwhelming color of people in the US? Almost like a majority in a country has majority in most aspects of it.

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      you’re missing your target. The enemy is the capital & its goons. It’s important to know that so that you can distinguish between friend and foe. If you are from the USA, the inevitable conflict will have you bear arms, and it will be very important for you to know who your enemy is. If you shoot all that is white, you’re not going to be a very dependable ally.

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        Power almost always needs a scapegoat. They are diversifying lately from people of color, and pushing immigrants again, along with other minotlrities like LGBT, and of course anyone who thinks their fascism is a bad idea. Just look at what trump is doing regarding educational institutions, media organizations, and law firms. Critical thinking is likely to get you killed.