This explains a lot, like how MAGA is everywhere online but I only ever see a few “in the wild”.
The record ain’t gonna correct itself
“I am a Ukrainian and I support Russia”
“I’m Latino and I suport ICE.”
hey… wait a minute…
check demographics of ICE Agents
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This ruined my day.
Je suis Charlie.
Oh shit wrong Charlie.
I see what you did there
From a networking perspective I’m impressed.
Yeah, high density APs that can handle a lot of clients exist, in theory…but in practice you can’t expect many devices to be simultaneously in-use. Having this many clients per square foot? SNR for those phones must be terrible. Amazing it works.
Don’t know why you’re getting down voted. It is indeed impressive that all those WiFi radios are working that close together. There’s another wall of phones behind it, double! Probably more in the room too.
There’s gotta be 100 phones on that first wall alone, plus double it, so 200. More in the room? Other rooms? Hundreds of phones, all screaming out WiFi, trying to connect.
From a networking perspective, impressive indeed. Those phones must hate life.
Edit: heck I bet most consumer grade routers DHCP servers would choke after the first 255 clients (probably much sooner) just from having to change subnets. I’m not a networkologist though so IDK for sure
The phones are all wired, so I could imagine they receive LAN via USB-C. That would make the whole setup not that difficult.
On the other side, these phones don’t need to be all active at the same time. I could imagine that they just switch on the Wifi while interacting with one of the phones.
The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?
As for turning WiFi on and off, that could work too, didn’t think of that. But I feel like maybe not? Surely the apps would complain or get suspicious of only connecting to make a quick comment and then disconnecting again, every single time. Or maybe not.
I just imagine companies trying to fight this somehow, and that would be a suspicious fingerprint.
The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?
You don’t actually need to adapt out of it. There are Ethernet-over-USB switches that output to USB directly. So all you need are USB cables, and you need them anyway to provide power. So all you are doing (compared to just power over USB) is to use an Ethernet-over-USB switch instead of an USB PSU.
Here’s the first one I found on google: https://www.digi.com/products/networking/infrastructure-management/usb-connectivity/usb-over-ip/anywhereusb
The one they advertise on that website has 24 USB outputs, but I’m sure you can find bigger ones. And from them you only need a single patch cable to the next proper switch.
There’s about 100 phones on the panel and another 100 on the other side, so that would be maybe 8 or 9 of these switches, all wired together into a 10 port switch and that one then is fed by a single input line.
The upside for a setup like this is that the bandwidth requirements per device are minuscule. It’s a lot of devices, but they aren’t doing anything for most of the time. That’s quite the opposite of what we usually plan for when designing a regular network where if we have hundreds of devices we expect them to actually do something as well.
This is USB over IP, not IP over USB.
The product you linked is for USB devices to be able I be used over a network. One common use-case is getting hardware license tokens (on a USB dongle) accessible to a virtual machine…especially when that VM can move dynamically between hosting servers for load-balancing or fail-over.
The closest I’ve seen is a cart intended for tablets or Chromebooks that gives 60W PD + Ethernet over one USB-C port. So something similar exists. I think with this though, you had to bring your own Ethernet switch.
I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.
Then take this one: https://m.made-in-china.com/product/USB-to-Ethernet-8-Ports-Switch-2079770325.html
But even if you can’t find an off-the-shelf solution for this, it’s trivial to DIY one. One USB controller can feed 127 devices maximum. You’ll obviously need powered USB hubs for that, but that’s not an issue. This works because when you enable USB tethering, the phone can be in USB device mode while getting IP over USB. The main issue here is the routes, but if you use an app that creates a local VPN on the phone to capture the traffic you can then tunnel that traffic through the tethering connection, using it in the reverse direction. Now you only need a PC with many USB controllers (easily done using PCI-E extension cards) and you are done.
Setup is a little complicated, but you only need to configure it once and then copy it over to all the phones.
I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.
I haven’t seen any devices so far that can deliver high wattage on multiple ports at the same time, so I think the PD is probably the bigger limit.
Wow that’s crazy!
Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?
for usb-c? $10 each, nonbulk, on aliexpress is what I see, a worthwhile investment for a farm like this
Especially considering the price of the phones they are running. Even if they are trashed second-hand ones they will be much more expensive than the adapters.
I can pretty confidently say that usn-c wasn’t used in this photo - posts from around 10 years ago indicate that these are iPhone 5c’s.
Doesn’t matter in the slightest. Ethernet over USB works irrespective of the shape of the plug.
Edit: heck I bet most consumer grade routers DHCP servers would choke after the first 255 clients (probably much sooner) just from having to change subnets. I’m not a networkologist though so IDK for sure
As somewhat of a networkologist I can say that most home routers use the 192.168.something.x IP range. With a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, this means that you could put 253 devices on the network (2 of the IPs aren’t usable for devices). After that, you would have to change your subnet mask to something larger, which is easily doable in router config. However, a home router likely wouldn’t work well with even just 100 devices connected. WiFi is also half duplex, meaning it can only send or receive, but not both at the same time. This would make the speed unbearably slow. You would really need multiple access points to have this many devices.
Don’t all phones do IPv6 nowadays?
My previous router (ASUS) crapped out at about 30 clients on 2.4GHz. New one (TP-Link Archer) is doing fine with somewhere between 30 and 40 depending on whether some clients connect to 2.4/5/6GHz, and about 50 clients total once I count wired and docker containers.
If I’d be stuck doing this, I’d start writing personalities for the alts.
This Xiaomi 10s is Greg, his wife Lauren (Pixel 3a) left him because he slapped her eleven years into their marriage. He begged her to come back, but Lauren is too afraid to end up like her friend Emy (Galaxy with flickering screen), to get caught up in the cycle of “leave-forgive”. The ladies are meeting on Friday, posting similar pictures of wine glasses into their feeds.
Greg sees his son twice a month (an iphone, the small one they stopped making awhile ago). Lately he can’t seem to get rid of the thought that he’s not doing it because he wants to, but because “that’s what fathers do”. The next visit will be his last, he’ll switch to sending cards and racist tweets about Mamdani.
Greg is a Xiaomi, wife is a Pixel but his son is an iPhone? I think Lauren has been unfaithful and Greg should get a paternity test
How dare you, Greg would never abandon his child because he was adopted.
No, he’s going to do it because he harbors deep resentment for what he became, what he could’ve been. Any time someone perceives him feels like a metaphorical slap across his face, not unlike the real physical one he in his wrathful impotence inflicted onto Laura.
Greg needs therapy, but he’s only getting it later in his 50s because I enjoy imagining pathetic people. It’s very normal do not think into it.
I appreciate the thought and story telling here 😂
This is not categorically too far off from what’s happening here. You can set up a whole social circle. I think that could even be beneficial in certain operations.
that cable management is extraordinary.
I would like to buy a bier to this dude and ask him what he thinks about the dead internet theory
“I get paid enough that it’s worth beating the corpse. Funny fuckin’ world we live in, huh?”
Worst thing is, they don’t make that much more money than some repeatable manual labor, but instead of being useful to the society, they help destroy it.
Internet was a mistake.
Anonymous internet was a mistake (says Simulation6)
They are useful to society, just one specific layer of it. You know, the one we’re not a part of.
I think he thinks about it quite a bit.
What’s going on here?
Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?
For what purpose? Clicks and likes?
Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?
On Android, you can enable ADB over Wifi, then you just connect to those IP addresses to share the screen and control the device.
They use real devices because every devices likely has a separate mobile data running and unique identifiers tied to those device, apps and configuration, which makes them appear authentic users and hence fool automatic spam detection systems.
Mom and pop consent factory.
Yes
Yes
Yes
I want a wall of phones that I can control from a laptop. No idea what I would do with it, but I want it.
You can make money with it.
This has always been known and the morons have always chosen to ignore it. It won’t be different this time.
They still managed to fill two stadiums with real people because the weird nazi died.
Well, they all came out of the woodwork.
But those are the ones that consume the hate content, not the ones that create it. That takes at least a few functioning brain cells.
You know what, why wouldn’t it be the same on all social media platforms? Maybe our news are all posted by bots/bangladesh people too?
Never heard of him. (Let’s normalize this response.)
Didn’t say I wanted to hear about him either (if someone starts explaining)
Never heard of her ;)
Charlie Kirk? wasn’t that guy a white nationalist and a jerk?
Back in my day we called them multiboxers
Average Reddit Thread be like:
I doubt the average reddit thread has the human involved
It took me a second but that’s hilarious
Is it about all the maga twitter accounts having foreign origins. Or am I missing something else.
Yes. Just one little Japanese girl with 100 iPads tweeting “we are Charlie Kirk” over and over.
I wonder what those people get paid - imagine shitposting for a living
Probably not much, given that she looks 12 and she had to wear outdoor clothes to keep warm.
I could do it as a part time job, but I get a lot of dietary fibre.
Why actually separate devices and not, like, VMs or something?
You buy a cheap phone. No need to pay for license, setup anything except a vpn maybe and you are good to go.
Setting up lots of VM takes a decent computer, some licenses and a know how.
A phone, you just start it and it connects to a VPN and your good to go.
But when that tech is set up… You can spin up loads of “phones”.
I wonder if you need a sim card for each ?
What license would be required? I just use qemu.
You can always improve an operation with more complex tech and more money. At the lower levels, you can just smash a car window and grab the valuables. This is likely a basic startup. It works, makes money. Scope increase comes later.
VMWare is popular for a reason. qemu is less accessible for the non-tech people of this world.
Compared to the last VMware GUI I saw qemu GUIs I tried seemed more accessible but for scripting the CLI is better anyways. Maybe VMware simplified it since I last saw it? I thought VMware was mostly popular for ESXi servers which qemu isn’t really comparable to, proxmox is the open equivalent I’m aware of.
There are a lot of programs that try to detect VMs and other unverified environments (e.g. Google’s safety net) to deter bots and fraud.
Buying physical devices circumvents all that
It’s to fool any detection that look for VM
Good luck running iOS that way
Does it need to be iOS? Can’t they use Android?
For some purposes, I’m sure they do. But I dunno if that’s what’s going on here.
