• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    People are missing the forest for the trees if they think empowering copyright to block AI training is a good thing for our society. Who do you think will be able to afford the training? This will lead to Disney AI™ and Apple Intelligence™ vs China, Russia pirate Bay models - real cyberpunk dystopia.

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      Who do you think will be able to afford the training?

      Nobody. LLMs are already unprofitable now when it’s free from copyright restrictions, if they had to actually pay for the proprietary data they’re taking then basically all US-based companies will be unable to afford training. This pops the bubble.

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        What about people who don’t care about IP law? Or trillion dollar companies? You think people just going to stop using LLMs? Lol

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          Trillion dollar companies want to make money, they aren’t just going to burn endless billions on super expensive and unprofitable tech that never turns a profit.

          And those massive data centers make it basically impossible for anyone to ignore IP law. Is Apple going to become an outlaw company? Or is some underground pirate server farm going to host an LLM? There’s no way to actually dodge the law on this for US-based companies.

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            Big tech absolutely will spend billions if Apple Intelligence or Gemini is the only legal commercial LLM, this type of moat is 100% worth it. It’s literally the dream.

            You got it the other way around. There’s no way to actually prove LLM used copyrighted material if it’s not a US based model and what then? Do you have a commercial allow list of models thst are legal to use? That would be completely unenforceable and collapse american tech advantage.

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      3 days ago

      sure, let’s allow our billionaire class to fuck us harder with no real benefit to the public… lest China beat them in some imaginary race

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        3 days ago

        Yes let your rage blind you - that’s very helpful. Maybe we should elect a strong leader and give them all of the power and our rights so he could take on these billionaires /s

        God forbid some copyright holders lose their grip on information