• RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    6001·
    3 days ago

    Context :

    8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. 9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. 10 May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes. 11 May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor. 12 May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children. 13 May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation. 14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out. 15 May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth. 16 For he never thought of doing a kindness, but hounded to death the poor and the needy and the brokenhearted. 17 He loved to pronounce a curse— may it come back on him. He found no pleasure in blessing— may it be far from him.

      • _stranger_@lemmy.world
        12·
        3 days ago

        I read the whole thing like Sarah Connor and it was quite cathartic to imagine it being recited like a history lesson. That would be a hell of a week Couldn’t happen to a more fitting person

        • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
          8·
          3 days ago

          I first read Sarah Connor as Sean Connery and went back to read it in his accent.

      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        42·
        2 days ago

        I wouldn’t be embarrassed: it was cringe structure.

        based structure
        1. May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
        2. May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
        3. May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
        4. May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
        5. May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.
        6. May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.
        7. May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.
        8. May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth.
        9. For he never thought of doing a kindness, but hounded to death the poor and the needy and the brokenhearted.
        10. He loved to pronounce a curse—may it come back on him. He found no pleasure in blessing—may it be far from him.
        • HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip
          1·
          2 days ago

          One verse per line gang represent! Does anyone else find most of the modern translations disappointing for not being as poetic? It’s a bible, it is supposed to edify in the beauty of well crafted prose

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
      222·
      3 days ago

      Forgive my ignorance, in this context, who is “he”?

      Like, what kind of person is being discussed in this passage?

      Mostly just curious. But not curious enough to tarnish my Google search history by looking it up.

      • markovs_gun@lemmy.world
        34·
        3 days ago

        It’s a general enemy. Here are the first few verses, which got left out

        1 My God, whom I praise,

        do not remain silent,

        2 for people who are wicked and deceitful have opened their mouths against me;

        they have spoken against me with lying tongues.

        3 With words of hatred they surround me;

        they attack me without cause.

        4 In return for my friendship they accuse me,

        but I am a man of prayer.

        5 They repay me evil for good,

        and hatred for my friendship.

        6 Appoint someone evil to oppose my enemy;

        let an accuser stand at his right hand.

        7 When he is tried, let him be found guilty,

        and may his prayers condemn him.

        It’s not talking about a specific person, but enemies in general.

        • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          Thanks. It seems to me that the Bible thumping crowd would see it was Trump is the one being attacked and the remainder of the passage would be against his enemies, rather than the intended implication that Trump is the enemy.

      • Akrenion@slrpnk.net
        20·
        3 days ago

        It’s a psalm that wishes bad on those who oppose you and the love you give. Basically a disstrack on all your enemies.

      • m0darn@lemmy.ca
        7·
        3 days ago

        Wikipedia says it’s attributed to King David but doesn’t give more context. Maybe cursing someone that betrayed him?

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      I couldn’t even care if Trump and his excrement progeny remain bourgeoise douchebags living in comfort. I’d just like them to stop defecating in the temple, and selling tickets to defecate in the temple.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      2 days ago

      “Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.”

      James 5:1-6 New International Version

      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
        12·
        2 days ago

        Matthew 25:41-46 New King James Bible

        41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

        44 “Then they also will answer [a]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

        • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
          12·
          2 days ago

          eviticus 19:33–34 (NIV):

          “When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.”

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.socialEnglish
    1723·
    3 days ago

    The Bible is like the Constitution. You don’t have to read it to know it’s meaning.

    And I’ll add the “/s” because it’s 2025

    • cygnus@lemmy.ca
      1281·
      3 days ago

      The four horsemen of things people on the internet don’t read, but still comment about endlessly:

      • The Bible
      • The US constitution
      • 1984
      • Whatever article is in the OP
      • threeonefour@piefed.caEnglish
        511·
        3 days ago

        I actually read 1984 because of all the “literally 1984” memes. It’s dry but it does hold up surprisingly well.

        • CountVlad47@feddit.org
          21·
          3 days ago

          It kinda reads like Orwell wanted to write an essay on the subject but thought it would get a larger audience if he wrote it as a novel. I read it about twenty years ago and even back then it was terrifying just how many of the predictions had already come true.

          • DagwoodIII@piefed.socialEnglish
            7·
            3 days ago

            “Stand On Zanzibar” has entered the chat.

            The author of the novel, John Brunner, read Alvin Toffler’s books and wrote a science fiction novel based on them. It won the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1969 and it’s scary how many of the predictions came to pass

        • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
          154·
          3 days ago

          I never finished it. The protag was a weird horny misogynist. And though he had fundamental problems with the state of the world, he was too cowardly to do anything to counter it except to sneak around fucking some nympho chick, and, in fact, was derisive of those who actually do rebel against it. The dystopia of it was interesting, but the narrative was not remotely engrossing and often insufferable after the initial world building, at least up the point I dropped it. Maybe it got better towards the end, but I’ve read a synopsis of it since then and it doesn’t really seem like it. Not my cup of tea.

          • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
            9·
            3 days ago

            The protag was a weird horny misogynist.

            Well he is forbidden to have sex if I remember correctly. Only the proels may enjoy such acts

            • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
              61·
              3 days ago

              Grain of salt here because it’s been a hot minute since I read it. IIRC, He’s allowed to have sex with his wife and only his wife, and his wife and him hate each other. He wants to have lots of casual sex but that’s only allowed among the party members. He laments that the party members won’t sleep with him and that all the women he’d like to sleep with are untrustworthy and will snitch him out. His wife ends up leaving and he meets the nympho and they start meeting up for sex. That’s what I remember

        • silasmariner@programming.dev
          134·
          3 days ago

          As a thought experiment I guess.

          Not very good as a novel, though. Same as Aldous Huxley, the characters barely exist, it’s just a platform for pontification. Give me George Eliot or William Faulkner any day of the week.

        • a_person@piefed.socialEnglish
          6·
          3 days ago

          Same, I actually really enjoyed it as a dystopic book. It might have been dry but the storytelling was great.

      • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        141·
        3 days ago

        Everybody has enough time to read the constitution. Also 1984 isn’t too long. The bible though? I went to church for 20 years and most people couldn’t make it through the whole thing. It certainly doesn’t help that like the first half of it is boring as hell. (I say that as somebody who got so bored with it I also have never read it through.)

        • cygnus@lemmy.ca
          4·
          2 days ago

          There is no article in this thread - I was speaking generally because people usually reply only to whatever the headline is.

    • logicbomb@lemmy.world
      12·
      3 days ago

      People make solemn oaths to defend the Constitution without being required to read it. It’s just insane.

  • Ron@zegheteens.nlNederlands
    494·
    3 days ago

    Most so called Christians have never read the bible, if they did they instantly became Atheists.

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        6 hours ago

        There shouldn’t be. The entire fucking point of a religion is to deify and be a follower. To obey and follow the rules and tenants of the word of the leader or God in which you worship.

        If you don’t know your scripture, then you arnt part of the religion. Full fucking stop.

        Your an idiot at best. At worse your literally being a cultist. To claim to be a member of a group with out knowing the very thing you worship or the teaching.

        That’s literally by definition a false member, a cultist.

        • Zagam@piefed.socialEnglish
          1·
          3 hours ago

          I can’t tell if you’re yelling me or just yelling in general. But in case this is aimed at me, I’m not a Christian. I’m not anything.

      • Ron@zegheteens.nlNederlands
        16·
        3 days ago

        There shouldn’t be, if you live by “the book” you should know “the book”.

      • Ron@zegheteens.nlNederlands
        1·
        2 days ago

        That’s why you know that the “real” Christian’s never have read the bible from cover to cover.

  • Maeve@kbin.earth
    33·
    3 days ago

    Fun fact: Psalm hexing is a thing, in certain religions traditions (because hoodoo isn’t technically a religion, but I was sleepy), like hoodoo and voduin.

    • Tlf@feddit.org
      2·
      3 days ago

      Could not stay to read the full article as it is just disturbing. I wonder how many people are affected and what the risk factors for such a condition are

      • 反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
        4·
        3 days ago

        Think of having a perfect devil disguised as your perfect angel, telling things you want to hear, and guiding towards absolute slavery. You would desire to be enslaved, since it emotionally manipulates you. That is how powerful Meta’s and these fascists sycophant networks are. It’s Brave New World, dialed to 11.

        long&short: everyone is being affect by this, not everyone can see sycophantic behaviors.