• devdoggy@lemmy.world
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    Who would have thought that people wouldn’t want to be surveilled?? What the fuck?? Why???

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      Because they thought everyone knew they are already doing that.

      I mean, we pay hundreds of monies every 2-4 years for the privilege of carrying the latest version of a device that does most of this already.

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    This is a very interesting article. We’re walking right into the very dystopia that so many sci-fi authors repeatedly have warned us about. They were warnings, not a playbook.

    What distinguishes a panopticon isn’t merely inescapable surveillance, but the fact that you don’t know when you’re being watched. You simply have to live with the unbearable uncertainty that, at any moment, you could be.

    Whether people realize it or not, we already live in a panopticon. Not only are there camera everywhere - on buildings, businesses, homes, streets, phones, cars, etc - but there are other sensors and mechanisms tracking things like your movement, activity, and heart rate.

    …despite a growing body of research suggesting that relying on AI models leads to critical thinking skills atrophying.

    There was a novel that predicted this decades ago. The main character was so reliant on his AR goggles that when they were stolen in a mugging he was nearly catatonic until his friends got it back.

    This is the world we are heading toward, and I don’t know what we can possibly do at this point to minimize the harm to both our environment and our species. The worst-case dystopia seems more and more inevitable by the day.

    Edit: The novel was Accelerando, by Charles Stross

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      I work for a company that has decided that they want to move forward with a device that will emit a frequency that allows them to track individual cell phones which they plan to use to target people with ads.
      This is a hotel that will know where all their guests are at all times and will use it to tell them what to do.

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      Sliders, the 90s sci-fi TV show had an episode that explored similar themes with VR. Also the 2020 indie adventure game Virtua Verse also has similar VR themes dominating people’s perceptions of reality to the point that some people spend their whole lives in love a robot that looks like a beautiful person when you have your headset on.

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          From the Wikipedia page

          a less obvious, though equally important theme is what Forster refers to as “the sin against the body.” This occurs when people’s intellectual refinement and spirituality advance to such a point that they become disconnected from their physical bodies and are unable to adapt to changing environments.

          After reading the synopsis and then hitting that sentence… This Forster mofo understood something deep within us that most people today have no clue about. It’s like we want to disconnect from the world we live in.

          Maybe it’s that our combination of self awareness and intelligence allow us to have an internal dialogue. It makes us feel like our mind a separate entity that’s driving our physical body around, and isolating our minds from the messiness of the natural world lets us exist in our more pure evolved state or whatever.

          I was admittedly way more into the metaverse (ala Snow Crash, not frickin facebook) and VR concepts decades ago. And I’ve had some great experiences in immersive games including VR. But to flip around the line from The Matrix, “the mind cannot live without the body.” We need to engage all of our senses and live in our environment, and not try to pretend like we’re just another computer on the network.

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            Well, if you want a real mind-fuck in a 1970s style of sci-fi, track down William Hjortsberg’s Gray Matters.

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          Season 4, episode 4. “Virtual Slide”

          You know what depressed me? I wanted to rewatch Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, but the episode I loaded up first from the entire run of the show? The one where a pandemic hit their town… and this was in 2021 or 2022, right when COVID-19 was still raging and pretty much on everyone’s mind. That immediately got me off.

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    As someone whose taught a fair number of undergrad classes, my nightmare scenario is a student showing up to an exam wearing one of these fucking things. When I tell them to take the damn things off, they then might protest saying they have prescription lenses and that they’re the only way they can take the exam.

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      Can’t it just be in the requirement of the exam? If they have connected glasses, they have to remove them for the duration of the exam and use them only after leaving the room. If they are spotted with them, they get disqualified instantly?

      Edit: IMHO the accessibility argument would not stand for a written exam as those glasses are often used to transcribe audio. If it’s written there is nothing to transcribe thus is not required. Those glasses are also more expensive than the non connected one so economically speaking if they can afford these glasses, they sure can afford the non connected ones. If they don’t have a pair of non connected glasses they have to plan ahead of the exam which typically happens weeks if not months after the beginning of the semester so it’s on them to plan accordingly.

      TL;DR: forbid them in school ToS.

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    This is worse than a prison. In a prison the prisoners cells are not normally under video surveillance unless the prisoner was super high risk for something.

    Even Epstein, a true high risk prisoner, didn’t have cameras inside his cell, and he was allegedly on suicide watch when he was murdered by Trump’s goons to try to cover up his pedo shit.

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    So transformative will it prove to the human brain, the twenty-something-year-old inventors promise, that wearers will soon be not just thinking, but “vibe thinking.”

    End this. Go down to the Titanic, please.

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    Genuinely, every person who participated in creating this should be taken out to an island and dumped there, to be forgotten about.

    This is vile.

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    Who would have thought that people don’t want to be recorded without their knowledge or consent?

    This would be a huge setback to anyone even remotely concerned about privacy.

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      Yeah, this is understandable but like, where were these people who are up in arms two decades ago? The ship has sailed. Walk around in any store, mall, shopping center, urban area… But no, all those recording devices are to keep me “safe”. But glasses, now that’s too far.

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        There’s a huge difference between a somewhat stationary surveillance camera and a hidden personal camera that films 24/7 without an indicator.

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          I fail to see the difference. Actually, if anything, I’d make the argument that it’s less invasive. Sure, the one person can be a stalker or whatever, and the camera company can be acting in bad faith, but they’d have to find you and maintain visual contact all day. The moment you step/drive onto a roadway, you’re being tracked, and you have already lost the battle. Sometimes, you don’t even need to leave your home. I’m from the states so this example is from that perspective.

          Every intersection, at the very least capture your face, vehicle, direction of travel - and none of which have indications that they are recording you. When you stop for fuel, you have cameras from dozens of perspectives outside at the pumps and inside paying, watching you fuel up, get a snack. Getting back on the road, a cop passes you, and an automated license plate reader records where and when your vehicle was seen. When you enter your workplace, cameras. When you get groceries, the parking lot is littered with them, the store interior using them to track thefts, customer profiling, what items you pick up but set back down on the shelves. When you pull into your driveway, your neighbor across the street who has a ring doorbell detects you getting out of your car and notes the event. And on top of all the innocent use cases, with just a little effort, you’ve now been pulled into a dragnet search for an investigation because your phone was connected to the same tower as XYZ while they committed a homicide, a block away while you were getting your groceries. But now your movements for the past month are scooped up in a database, scrutinized and picked through with a magnifying glass. Looking for a reason, any reason, to nail you and hundreds of others caught up in this investigation, with anything they can find in their pursuit of the attacker. You, you are just a bonus to them.

          I don’t like either, to be clear, but I’d take the one camera on someone’s face vs the thousands of networked cameras you pass - and likely don’t even notice - every single day. Unfortunately, the agencies and companies that installed those cameras are quite indifferent to my feelings regarding them. Funny how that works.

          Like I said, the ship has sailed.

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      My neighbor has several security cameras in front, covering the parking lot, the sidewalk in front of the building, and the unit entry doors. We live in apartments. Our doors are clustered in the same area, so anything that can see his door can also see my door and our other neighbors’ doors.

      I absolutely hate it. I can’t even throw the goddamn trash out without feeling watched.

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      And putting Ray Ban on the “never buy a fucking thing from” list.

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      Thats the wayfarer model, you’ll never be able to tell, theyre too common

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        You’re missing the details:

        Regular wayfarer on the left has the small oval (sometimes chrome) accent. AI wayfarer on the right as the round black camera lenses.

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          You’re going up close to every person you see with wayfarers to check the corner for a small oval? The details are too small to matter from a distance.That’s what I’m trying to say.

          There will likely be other models or brands where you can’t even rely on the distinction you’re trying to make here.

          It’s looking bleak.

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            You’re going up close to every person you see with wayfarers to check the corner for a small oval? The details are too small to matter from a distance.That’s what I’m trying to say.

            No. If I’m walking up to someone intending to interact with them, that is close enough to see the lenses. Upon identifying those, I will elect instead to not interact with that person and keep on walking by.

            The details are too small to matter from a distance.That’s what I’m trying to say.

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        I won’t even give them the option to take them off. If I see someone wearing them I had intended to interact with, I’ll keep on walking by and ignore the person.