Getting the military in place for the coup.
He’s getting everything prepared for when he denies the next election. He doesn’t want to lose power to a pesky thing called democracy.
“Trump floats the idea of starting a civil war.” FTFY.
I saw that movie. Loved the ending.
Yo, try that shit with NYC and see what happens. The city is a breath away from mass protest on a GOOD day.
Ah yes, the dog days of summer. When cities are known for being especially peaceful and compliant. What better time of year to deploy armed thugs to intimidate the local populace.
This is gonna be great. I’m making the popcorn.
Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it’s important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn’t a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn’t a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.
I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.
I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.
I’m sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot “middle class” Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.
We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You’re gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.
That’s a really good point. I remember at the most recent DEFCON, Cory Doctorow got a heckton of cheers when he was talking about tech workers waking up to the fact that they were workers, and are beginning to push towards unionising. In the comments, people were glad to hear the cheers, seeing it as evidence of the shifting tide that Doctorow spoke of.
However, as you highlight, this mass squeezing of the middle class will also send a significant chunk of people over to Fascism. We definitely shouldn’t become complacent
I watched a documentary a couple days ago about a school counselor who got laid off and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut.
“… and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut.”
Worst part was all the people on Lemmy saying they are normalizing people joining ICE. Uhh no. They aren’t. They were showing a very real situation that has historical significance for many of history’s past fascist regimes.
As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.
The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political “wrong speak”.
How will this shit end?
Suspension of the constitution and President Trump for life.
Even worse because when he dies we’re stuck with a techno facist dictatorship for the foreseeable future
How will this shit end?
Some prisoner with a life sentence will never be out of commissary funds.
They’d never allow him to live. He could be on fifth avenue with his hands behind his head and the cult would summary execute him on live TV to send a message.
Is that a promise ?
Martial law is next! I tell ya.
Martial Law was one of the last steps in Project 2025.
This is damn near the same thing, without all the fancy steps.
Those “fancy steps” are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he’s doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he’s breaking the law.
Surely this time he’s done for.
Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare
I’ve said time and time again we let the entire Bush admin off the hook for war crimes… Trump hasn’t even hit war crimes levels yet. Did anyone think we were ever going to hold him to account when we wouldn’t even do anything about that?
I think it started sooner, with Nixon being pardoned and all the senior Reagan White House officials getting away with Iran-Contra
Even farther back. The mishandling of Reconstruction of the South after Lincoln’s assassination.
I don’t disagree, I guess I just felt like Bush’s war crimes of torture within our own military was pretty directly egregious whereas the whole point of Iran-Contra was that the Contras were the ones committing the violence, not US soldiers at the command of their leadership. Plausible deniability and all that. Like, if our society was ever going to give a shit, that should be have been the straw that broke the camels back since there was nothing plausibly deniable about “enhanced interrogation.”
The law does matter. People don’t seem to realize just how much of Trump’s bullshit has already been stopped by the courts.
The majority of his executive orders have all been blocked or straight-up nullified, so far…but thanks to the overwhelming volume of court cases and the long delays in reaching some decisions…the media never covers the outcomes to the same extent.
Buddy if the law mattered even one fucking iota trump himself would be buried under the prison.
That’s not how the law works.
Oh okay please explain how the law works I’m sure youre a lawyer or a judge or some other type of legal expert. We’re all dying to hear how our president isn’t guilty of literally dozens and possibly hundreds of serious financial and sexual crimes dating back to the 1980s, or how he is guilty and the fact that he hasn’t been punished is just “how the law works”
Man I hate lemmoids
He would be dead shortly after being locked up because he wouldn’t survive withdrawal from his fast food and orange makeup addiction.
whenever an EO gets challenged or struck down, Trump figures out a way to get rid of the problem or go around it. the only thing the law is doing is showing him vulnerabilities to exploit. state injunctions are legally being ignored thanks to SCOTUS, so… Trump does not have to listen to judges.
He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.
No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.
If the system were working Cannon could not have effectively blocked Trump’s prosecution. If the system were working the leader of an insurrection against the government of the United States could not have even RUN for President, much less BEEN SWORN IN. If the system were working the personal attorney for the most vile and morally corrupt President in our nation’s history would not have been NONINATED, much less CONFIRMED to a federal appellate court.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. Any conclusions predicated on another other assumption are simply wrong.
This is why we’re doomed. I cannot believe there are people who still think like this
He won’t realize until they come for him. People like him are how it happens
isn’t it disgusting? depressing as hell how these people still feel so confident in “the system.”
So…do you agree with Trump when he tries to suspend or ignore the legal process? Is that your solution? Just, “as long as it’s us doing it, it’s fine”?
It’s kind of bizarre to advocate for the very same shit he’s pulling, as a defense against the kind of shit he keeps trying to pull.
Remember this exchange.
you’re right that the system is working. it is giving us its ultimate: fascism. this is the intended outcome for profit seeking capitalists. if you mean to say our system of American justice is working… surely you jest.
That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.
Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
SCOTUS:
And the consequences of him breaking the law will be…? He’ll get arrested and prosecuted like a civilian?
It doesn’t fucking matter. He’ll do it all anyway, without ever declaring martial law. And what the fuck is anyone going to do about it?
Law means nothing unless there’s some means to enforce it
It means even less, if your first impulse is to toss it all out the window as soon as it’s no longer convenient for you to follow it.
Oh he surely won’t do that the morons say.
I saw Marshall Law at Lollapalooza ‘98!
FYI - He tried this in Portland last time:
Bonus: The guy in charge of it, Chad Wolf (not making that up) had been illegally appointed and had no authority:
https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/dont-shoot-portland-v-wolf/
How quickly people forgot that unmarked vans with unmarked personnel were kidnapping people off the streets of Portland during BLM
Did we forget? I kinda feel like this is an extension of the BLM persecution. It worked so well they decided to keep using the same techniques.
“No the billionaire owned news told us they were l00ters!”
Nevermind the exact same rhetoric being used to suppress civil rights 40 years ago
Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files
We changed people saying “Trump fucked kids” to “Trump rapes kids” in just a few days.
Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.
Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files
We changed people saying “Trump fucked kids” to “Trump rapes kids” in just a few days.
Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.
Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.
I hope y’all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it’s coming home
That’s a lot of air time. I sure hope the notoriously poorly trained police pilots don’t fly into a bird or a drone, tail rotor first.
Trump rapes little kids.
Fascists traditionally leave office in body bags
More diversion from the Epstein files?
I’m not sure taking over the government and making himself a king with a personal army who cannot ever be removed from power no matter how obscene his abuses are is a diversion.
I agree, but he does (or tries to do) so much and says so much that some of it probably is a smokescreen. Which parts? I don’t know.
The craziest shit is that he’s not even going to make it beyond this term.
Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files
We changed people saying “Trump fucked kids” to “Trump rapes kids” in just a few days.
Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.
The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.
Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.
The most free country on the planet…
Well you see that is the neat part, the us was never that. They like to say that they are, but no.
Now its just so blatantly wrong that no amount of rah rah usa will work.
It the most, yet, but getting close!
You mean like when he wasted shit tons of money deploying the national guard to those places so they could sit on their ass, sleep in hallways, and then eventually leave because they weren’t needed and no one asked for them in the first place?
Don’t frame it like it won’t turn out to be a big deal. That’s a bad idea, intentional or not. Deploying military assets against American citizens should be considered a serious escalation every single time it happens.
