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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-review-the-astral-codex-ten lol but good for lore:
The most toxic the comments section has ever got (beyond the very early days) was on the post Gupta on Enlightenment. I feel like the comments section on this post should be part of the ACX main canon because it is so cosmically hilarious. It concerns a man name Vinay Gupta (founder of a blockchain-based dating website) and his claims to have reached enlightenment. Some people in the comments are sceptical that Vinay Gupta is indeed an enlightened being, citing that enlightened people don’t typically found blockchain-based dating websites. A new forum poster with the handle ‘Vinay Gupta’, claiming to be Vinay Gupta and writing in a very similar style to the actual Vinay Gupta, turns up and starts arguing with everyone in an extremely toxic way (in the objective sense that his comments score very highly on the toxic-bert scoring system), which provokes more merriment that a self-described enlightened being would deploy such classic internet tough-guy approaches as ‘I don’t think much of a four-on-one face off against untrained opponents’ (link) and ‘this board is filled with self-satisfied assholes who feel free to hold forth on whatever subject crosses their minds, with the absolute certainty that they’re the smartest people in the room’
Damn you, Scott! Stop making me agree with people who created blockchain-based dating apps!
I didn’t see this article here yet, but I just saw it elsewhere and it’s pretty good: Potemkin Understanding in Large Language Models
I try to talk to ChatGPT for 2 straight hours but go crazy and have to stop | Daniel Hentschel
I’m here to help in whatever way I can. Just let me know what you’d like to do next.
What I’d like to do next is fucking hang myself. Oh shit I shouldn’t have said that. No, I’m joking. That was a joke. I was joking about that. Joking.
I’m sorry he feels that way. I’m here for him if he wants to talk about anything, just let me know.
Copilot will be given a little avatar with a “room” and will “age”. In other words: we have now reached the Microsoft Bob stage of the AI bubble.
Fuck you Microsoft, I’m gonna have to pretend to be autoplag’s dad now, at least have the courtesy not to make it look like a cum blob.
This sounds like the plot of an oglaf comic
At least Microsoft Bob gave us comic sans.
This is literally just a Tamagotchi but worse
EDIT: This was supposed to be an offhanded comment, but reading further makes me think Mustafa Suleyman has literally never heard of a Tamagotchi
Those who do not study history are doomed to recreate neopets.
Neopets at least brought joy to a generation of nascent furries. Copilot is fixing to have the exact opposite impact on internet infrastructure.
The guy who thinks it’s important to communicate clearly (https://awful.systems/comment/7904956) wants to flip the number order around
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KXr8ys8PYppKXgGWj/english-writes-numbers-backwards
I’ll consider that when the Yanks abandon middle-endian date formatting.
Edit it’s now tagged as “Humor” on LW. Cowards. Own your cranks.
Okay what the fuck, this is completely deranged. How can anyone’s intuitions about reading be this wrong? Is he secretly illiterate, did he dictate the article?
damn, a clanker pretending to be a human. humans read entire words at once, and this includes numbers, length and first digit already give some indication of magnitude
Yes, and largest place value is literally called the most significant digit. It makes perfect sense that it comes first.
Starting this fight and not ‘stop counting at zero you damn computer nerds!’ is a choice. DIJKSTRAAAAAAAA shakes fist
(There is more to it in a way, as he is trying to be a Dijkstra, and changing an ingrained system which would confuse everybody and cause so many problems down the line. See all the off by one errors made by programmers. Damn DIJKSTRAAAAAA!).
Computers use both big endian and little endian and it doesn’t seem to matter much. Yet humans should switch their entire number system?
E: this guy can’t grasp the concept that left-to-right is arbitrary, which is really ironic given his point. Ok so in arabic it’s exactly how this guy wants it, except no, the universally correct reading direction is left-to-right and arabic does it backwards just to be quirky🙄, and humans, just like programs, flip a bit to read it left-to-right, where it’s the opposite of how you should be reading it! of course.
The argument would be stronger (not strong, but stronger) if he could point to an existing numbering system that is little-endian and somehow show it’s better
i needed this giggle, gods bless our dubbers
Sometimes while browsing a website I catch a glimpse of the cute jackal girl and it makes me smile. Anubis isn’t a perfect thing by any means, but it’s what the web deserves for its sins.
Even some pretty big name sites seem to use it as-is, down to the mascot. You’d think the software is pretty simple to customize into something more corporate and soulless, but I’m happy to see the animal eared cartoon girl on otherwise quite sterile sites.
Xe has talked a bit about the mascot in question before - by her own testimony, its there to act as a shopping cart test to see who’s willing to support the project. Reportedly, she’s planning to exploit it to make some more elaborate checks as well.
Huh, interesting approach. So the idea is that you either use the free version and (preferably) retain the anime girl mascot to promote Anubis itself, or you pay for a commercial license to remove animu in a way that is officially supported.
Basically. Its to explicitly prevent Xe from becoming the load-bearing peg for a massive portion of the Internet, thus ensuring this project doesn’t send her health down the shitter.
You want my prediction, I suspect future FOSS projects may decide to adopt mascots of their own, to avoid the “load-bearing maintainer” issue in a similar manner.
Seems a bit early to say whether others are going to do that. This experiment hasn’t had much time to prove itself and so far I haven’t recognized anyone using a corporate branded BotStopper instance, only the jackal girl version.
Responsibility manahement through branding is an interrsting idea and I wouldn’t mind seeing it working, but a prediction like that seems like jumping to conclusions prematurely. Then again, I guess that’s kinda what “prediction” means in general.
certainly better than seeing the damned cloudflare Click Here To Human box, although I suspect a number of these deployments still don’t sponsor Xe or the project development :/
Should we give up on all altruist causes because the AGI God is nearly here? the answer may surprise you!
tldr; actually you shouldn’t give because the AGI God might not be quite omnipotent and thus would still benefit from your help and maybe there will be multiple Gods, some used for Good and some for Evil so your efforts are still needed. Shrimp are getting their eyeballs cut off right now!
Stomatopodcasting
Alex O’Connor platformed Sabine on his philosophy podcast. I’m irritated that he is turning into Lex Friedman simply by being completely uncritical. Well, no, wait, he was critical of Bell’s theorem, and even Sabine had to tell him that Bell’s work is mathematically proven. This is what a philosophy degree does to your epistemology, I guess.
My main sneer here is just some links. See, Mary’s Room is answered by neuroscience; Mary does experience something new when color vision is restored. In particular, check out the testimonials from this 2021 Oregon experiment that restored color vision to some folks born without it. Focusing on physics, I’d like to introduce you all to Richard Behiel, particularly his explanations of electromagnetism and the Anderson-Higgs mechanism; there are deeper explanations for electricity and magnets, my dude. Also, if you haven’t yet, go read Alex’s Wikipedia article, linked at the top of the sneer.
In the case of O’Connor and people like him, I think it’s about much more than his philosophy background. He’s a YouTube creator who creates content on a regular schedule and makes a living off it. Once you start doing that, you’re exposed to all the horrible incentives of the YouTube engagement algorithm, which inevitably leads you to start seeking out other controversial YouTubers to platform and become friendly with. It’s an “I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine” situation dialed up to 11.
The same thing has happened to Sabine herself. She’s been captured by the algorithm, which has naturally shifted her audience to the right, and now she’s been fully captured by that new audience.
I fully expect Alex O’Connor to remain on this treadmill. <remind me in 12months>
What getting c*cked by Mikhaila Peterson does to a mfer.
New piece from Brian Merchant, and a new edition of AI Killed My Job just dropped
It’s hard to come up with analogies for AI because it’s so goddamn stupid. It’s like if asbestos was flammable.
it’s like leaded gasoline for internet - it makes people stupid and aggressive, kids are hit the worst by it, fallout will be felt for decades, cleanup might be hard to impossible, and ultimately it’s a product of corporate greed. except even leaded gasoline solved some problem
it’s also like gambling as in hook model. it’s like cocaine in that it has been marketed to managerial class as a status symbol of sorts
Or like the radium craze of the early 20th century (even if radium may have a lot more legitimate use cases than current-day LLM).
One of the products was removal of unwanted hair. You radiated and the hair just fell off! How practical!
To be fair to the radium people, I don’t think the correlation between radiation and cancer was established until the aftermath of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Still one could see hair falling of as a warning sign of sorts.
Someone I know called AI “a non-invasive procedure to lobotomise people” after I mentioned this Pivot to AI, and its stuck with me ever since
today’s least surprising news: substack’s coterie of totally-not-nazis fucking love AI https://on.substack.com/p/the-substack-ai-report
So this blog post was framed positively towards LLM’s and is too generous in accepting many of the claims around them, but even so, the end conclusions are pretty harsh on practical LLM agents: https://utkarshkanwat.com/writing/betting-against-agents/
Basically, the author has tried extensively, in multiple projects, to make LLM agents work in various useful ways, but in practice:
The dirty secret of every production agent system is that the AI is doing maybe 30% of the work. The other 70% is tool engineering: designing feedback interfaces, managing context efficiently, handling partial failures, and building recovery mechanisms that the AI can actually understand and use.
The author strips down and simplifies and sanitizes everything going into the LLMs and then implements both automated checks and human confirmation on everything they put out. At that point it makes you question what value you are even getting out of the LLM. (The real answer, which the author only indirectly acknowledges, is attracting idiotic VC funding and upper management approval).
Even as critcal as they are, the author doesn’t acknowledge a lot of the bigger problems. The API cost is a major expense and design constraint on the LLM agents they have made, but the author doesn’t acknowledge the prices are likely to rise dramatically once VC subsidization runs out.
I tried to see if anyone sells chocolate coins modeled after historical gold coinage and the search engine wanted to be, uh, helpful:
Highlighted portion by Google, not me. Funny how almost everything in the answer is mostly correct, though it’s bizarre to explain this to someone searching with these keywords as if I don’t already know what florins and chocolate coins are if I’m looking for chocolate florins specifically. The only part blatantly wrong is the highlighted lede!
“An AI? But using that you could find a cure for cancer!”
“But I dont want to make a cure for cancer, i want to generate powerpoint presentations. Look it just made this quarterly_report_june_july_jan.wpd file for me.”
(yes im using the sneerthread to write down bad jokes).
i thought it was pretty funny <3
It was amusing to see wikipedia keeps a list of fileformats and wordperfect was among them. Which seemed the correct factor of wrong, obscure, but not obscure enough that nobody would notice.
