the only difference is that stalin hijacked the government and turned it to right wing authoritarianism from a based ruler while trump hijacked it from a mid one.
So authoritarianism. Did we ban the wrong tankies perhaps?
I look at the date this video was posted (5 days before the 2024 US presidential election), and (probably) lie to myself that the red hats are no coincidence. It gives me a smidge of amusement in these dark times. :)
The Democrats should OFFICIALLY declare the Republican Party dead, and only refer to the MAGA Party from now on. Do an actual press conference, and make an official announcement - the Republican Party no longer exists, and has been replaced by the MAGA Party. That will make the traditional Republicans absolutely crazy, and the Dems should keep it up.
Never use the word Republican ever again, refer only to the MAGA, or MAGA Nazi Party. On talk shows, interviews, sound bites, fundraising texts, etc., use the term MAGA Party exclusively. When asked about it, simply say casually and matter-of-factly “The Republican Party is dead, they are the MAGA Party from now on,” and leave it at that. Make the MAGAs cry.
So, in short, behave exactly like the Obama era Republicans that the Democrats have basically become
Nah, the Obama Era Republicans put up a fight. The Democrats now aren’t even fighting for the most part.
They’re putting up a fight against the left.
That’s true
use the term MAGA Party exclusively
MAGA - Morons And Genuine Assholes.
I like calling them MAGAts because it just sounds right to me.
How exactly are these kindergarten word games going to stop fascism? I’m asking seriously.
It won’t help. It’s purely cathartic. It’s meaningless political tribalism. It will keep the commons quibbling and scratching while fascism only strengthens from the misguided and unprincipled rage.
Ok have you been to any protests this year? Do you plan on being at one on the 4th?
I have been to a couple but I’m unfamiliar with the protest you’re referencing. I have mixed feelings about the protests I’ve witnessed, but it was nice to see people banding together regardless.
It’s nationwide, I’m sure there’s something going on local to you
The Republicans tried doing a similar thing to the Democratic Party by calling it the “Democrat Party”, but members of the Democratic Party basically just ignored this and treated those who used it as stupid, or offered “helpful corrections” to the user’s “inadvertent mistake”. Eventually, it lost currency because it failed in its goal of upsetting people.
The Party Formerly Known as Republican
I’m over here waiting to see whether the apocalypse is more Matrix, Terminator, or idiocracy. I’m leaning idiocracy, but I’m not giving up on the others.
We’re legit too dumb to even build the Terminator or Matrix apocalypses IMO. They both rely on creating genuine artificial life.
Devastatingly, we might even be too dumb to get to an Idiocracy future. It’s set in ~2500 and the earth is still pretty well habitable.
I think short term it’s more Handsmaid’s Tale in the US, and globally heading for perhaps Elysium.
Good times, good times.
Whatever it is, expect there to be a healthy mix of “The Stepford Wives” and “The Handmaid’s Tale” thrown in there as well.
My money is on Idiocracy + 1984.
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Cyberpunk is a possibility as well
Too many people here just blindly hating on Bernie and nitpicking how “Stalinism is technically incorrect”. Where’s the Trump hate? Bring some of that shit out. I’ll start.
Fuck Trump, MAGA, and their entire cult of personality.
protip: most of the bernie haters are forum sliders. Mods are even less likely here to do anything about it than on reddit.
Lemmy should be a place Bernie’s policies are celebrated, but due to shills, bots, bad actors and just trolls, every post about him will be brigaded and turned into a shitshow
Lemmy is complicit in our march towards fascism and their lack of action is telling of their motivations
Or this is just a bad attempt at manipulating conservative rotbrains from Bernie, who knows they don’t mind being called fascists which has led him to the conclusion of calling them communists instead.
He’s probably right about what will bother them but he’s just playing into their rhetoric in the end.
Because turbo libbing is not the solution to defeating Trump. It is similar to saying Israel has the right to defend itself before each statement. Bernie is actively antagonizing commies by repeating US imperialist propaganda and applying it to someone he does not like.
Stalinism isn’t actual leftist politics. It’s sycophantic moronery, just as Bernie used it.
If you feel antagonised when someone criticise Stalin then that’s a you problem though.
Staline’s Image Cult isn’t “imperialist propaganda”
Americans using their global opponents which they demonize in all their media as insults is an all too classic trope.
I am sure we are all extremely well informed on Stalin because of our unbiased media.
We’re not all from the US, but yes all the western block got anti-Ussr colored info. Still there is little you can find that can make a critical mind see Stalin as anything but a dictator. There are things you can admire in Marx, Trotsky and even Lenin, but if you cannot see how Stalin hijacked the revolution to make his own autocratic empire that while somewhat communism flavored, was structurally not that different of a fascist state, then you are willfully blind. The leader worship, the paranoia, the constant surveillance, those have no place in a communist society.
It is those aspects precisely that make Sanders equate the republicans to stalinists. I think the comparison is apt.
Stalin did massively advance Russian science and industrialization. But he did so at a massive human toll. Also his role in fighting Hitler is so minimized that people think he colluded with Hitler when the USSR basically defeated Hitler by themselves at Stalingrad and America swooped in afterwards.
Yes, the US has red scare propaganda.
Historians exist outside of the US, though. We have decades and decades of non-US, non communist-scare historical research to know what the USSR and Stalin did. If you don’t want to recognise the errors of the past, you will repeat them. If the most you can do is aim for Stalin’s USSR but 2025 version, then you’re as much an enemy of the people than capitalists are.
non communist-scare
Oh? What are you referring to?
red scares have been a global phenomena, not one isolated to the US. Pointless red baiting in response to what Trump being a fascist is about what I’ve come to expect from Bernie, the guy who can’t call it a genocide.
Declassified CIA documents from the time even say that Stalin was not so much of an autocrat as commonly mythologized.
So when Stalin collaborated with Nazis to kill and chase away my relatives from what is now Ukraine that was imperialist propaganda? Why did so many of my ancestors flee Russia at that time?
You mean the peace treaty he signed with Hitler to stall for time and build weapons after France and Britain refused to join forces with him to fight Hitler.
Have you considered asking yourself why France and Britain refused?
It is quite astounding to blame Stalin, the guy who basically fought Hitler all by himself, for the Holocaust.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin
Stalin’s actions killed 7-20 million people, intellectuals, minorities, and poor people. At least a million of which were deliberate deaths. People who defend that for political expedience are unquestionably misinformed or evil, take your pick. My family was fleeing for their lives.
I am all for some form of socialism, defending evil people is not how you get it.
Damn, that’s a suspiciously wide range.
Does it include Nazi soldiers killed by the red army in world war two? (Spoilers: yes)
This person is mad about dead Nazis
Wikipedia isn’t a source
My Jewish grandparents on multiple sides were told to flee or die by Stalin’s drooling simps. My primary source is many of my great grandparents and the thousands of others that fled Russia at the barrel of a gun. Talk to any reputable Russian historian in the last 50 years and some figure in the many millions is going to come up. We have endless first hand accounts and mountains of historical evidence. To deny this history is like being a Holocaust denier. What exactly is your goal here?
Wikipedia is a better source than most of what you can find on the internet these days. Its articles provide ample sources that you can check if you like. I’d say Wikipedia is one of the best things the current internet has. But if you don’t like it perhaps you would prefer conservapedia.
Wikipedia is a bastion of imperialist propaganda. Until recently it claimed that Israel fought a defensive war in 1967 and did a “preemptive attack”. Anyone who actually studied its history knows how blatantly wrong those lies are.
Wikipedia is great for science but awful for anything politics related. Especially if it opposes the Western hegemony. The literal CIA propaganda outlet Radio Free Asia is somehow a “credible source” which they frequently cite whenever they need lies about anything opposing the empire.
Incredibly wrong, I had the pleasure of correcting someone else earlier today who posted an excerpt of a wikipedia article regarding financial aid to Palestine as a source, the sole cited source of which was a Times of Israel article which contained no substantiating evidence whatsoever. The only things wikipedia can be trusted to reliably get right are basic scientific articles, anything remotely politically or culturally controversial will be skewed to fit one agenda or another. If the sources for the wiki article are any good then post them directly instead of referring to them secondhand through wikipedia, otherwise you’re just knowingly outsourcing a lie. And lol @ suggesting that any criticism of wikipedia must be from a conservative, swing and a miss kiddo.
Quite frankly, I think that the voters who would be put off by Bernie stating that MAGA and support for Stalin share similarities are both worthless and minuscule.
You have to make bridge statements in order to reach a broader audience
Let’s hope he keeps doing it. Unless commies are out there fighting ICE with fire they can go get fucked.
ITT anti-leftism.
yall not solving fascism with neoliberalism, a capitalist ideology. just saying.
.ml domain checks out
“You’re from instance i dont like” isn’t a particularly strong counterargument
.worlddomain checks out
It has never worked in the past. Germany, Italy and Japan are famous communist nations, that’s the only way to defeat fascism and Co.
what do germany italy and japan has to do with communism?
apart from a piece of germany being siege-socialist for a short while.
I legitimately don’t understand your point? What?
Communism hasn’t prevented fascism from rising, that’s why communism bad?
The Nazis would likely have never rose to power in Germany had the social democrats not betrayed the revolution to preserve capitalism, btw.
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here. The American empire sat back and let the USSR and the Chinese communists take the vast majority of casualties to defeat those rival empires then made them into imperial vassals?
The GOP has become a Stalinist Party
They haven’t killed remotely enough fascists to earn this distinction.
They have deported enough people.
Stalin is famous for the Iron Railroads Out of the USSR?
Probably should have gone with forced displacement for this dig I think
I meant forced displacement to Siberia. I said deported because no one was asking to get deported and no one wanted to be displaced to Siberia and that most often happened because you were educated and pose a threat to the regime and the US is on that track they have deported people who didn’t support their “allies”, which in their minds is also a major threat to them (which it isn’t).
I’d argue it’s a satanist party as well. They’re doing all the shit that was prophesized that the devil would make dumb people do, worshipping false idols, worshipping money, getting the mark of the beast, that sort of shit
This is coming from an staunch atheist who just notices the irony
I was confused on what was Satanic until I realized you were talking about the Christian version on Satanic and not the Church of Satan.
I was super surprised by the irony after I saw all those golden idols of trump. If I was a Christian I would be highly offended at these people trying to align with me. Those are $100 bills with trumps face on it, that they covered the goat idol. 2 separate events. 1 was a CPAC and 1 was at Mara Lago. 🙄
Satanists are cooler than these assholes.
I cannot imagine being enough of a sycophant to wear a hat that says “Trump was right about everything”. Nobody’s right about everything, and Trump is less right about things than most people because he’s incredibly stupid.
So much of the last 30 years of Republicanism (maybe 60 years, if you’re a Nixonian) boils down to Owning The Libs.
The guy with the “Trump was right…” hat will happily bitch about all the things Trump is doing wrong. He just won’t do it in earshot of anyone he thinks is to his Left.
Trump is less right about things than most people
Trump is turning the rhetoric of the Reagan Era into reality. He’s taking the orthodoxy of the party seriously, rather than using it as bait to gull the rubes into another round of tax cuts and privatizations.
It’s this commitment to orthodoxy that his base loves. Also what makes him look stupid.
I agree that the party orthodoxy is stupid and contradictory. But he’s also profoundly stupid which is why he’s such a perfect fit as its mascot.
Eh. Intelligence is clearly not how you get ahead in elected politics. Even when Biden wasn’t teetering on the edge of senility, he was still dumb as bricks. Didn’t stop him from being a senior Senator, then a VP, then a President. Meanwhile, the Smarties like Romney and Cruz and Buttigieg and Bloomberg routinely face-plant in the face of even the most mild popular opposition.
Intelligence is sometimes a handicap in politics. You’re right, and that is especially the case in American politics. As far as Trump goes, I would say his intelligence was never a hindrance he had to manage in any way because he is, was, and always will be abundantly stupid.
Intelligence is sometimes a handicap in politics.
Idk if I’d call it a handicap. I’d say it is tangential to the goal of building a large base of supporters, particularly when the “intelligent” move you see before you is to fatten your own wallet or adhere to some big money economic orthodoxy in order to climb the corporate ladder.
Like, the classic examples of this were Hillary v Obama in 2008 and Hillary v Donald in 2016. Hillary Clinton was clearly smarter - and in many ways more politically savvy - than Trump. She was arguably more experienced and politically educated than Obama. And they were both miles ahead of the rest of the GOP field. Hillary had run circles around her Republican rivals for decades, cultivated networks of plutocrats that would have otherwise been Republican stalwarts, built large organizations throughout the Atlantic Coast and the Southwest to power her ambitions during the Bush Era, and added substantially to her family fortune from historical right-wing sources while at the head of the liberal leadership team in an era when Democrats as a party were on the decline.
But she got the rug pulled on her in the '08 primary, simply because she refused to admit she was wrong on her Iraq War vote six years earlier. And she got beaten again, by a whisper thin margin, because her business friendly calculus in backing NAFTA for thirty years finally caught up with her.
As far as Trump goes, I would say his intelligence was never a hindrance he had to manage in any way because he is, was, and always will be abundantly stupid.
I would argue that Trump was significantly smarter than the median GOP primary candidate in '16 and '24. A lot of folks love to pillar him as stupid, but he clearly has an ability to read a room and reflect those feelings back to a crowd in a way DeSantis and Huckabee and Jeb! did not. He wasn’t afraid to say the Iraq War was a mistake. He regularly bragged about his role in government corruption when it was clear voters assumed everyone was corrupt and considered this a point of transparency. He was more openly racist, when the base demanded more racism, and (often quixotically) more openly LGBTQ+ friendly when the base stopped giving a fuck about villainizing gay relationships. Call it Emotional Intelligence, if nothing else. The man might not even be literate, but he’s clearly clever as a fox and twice as predatory.
But I also think he’s a product of the historical moment. His popularity is largely a consequence of decades of political orthodoxy on Rich People Being Better Than You, hammered into the heads of his base voters. He was given a big megaphone to say “I’m a rich white guy with a hot wife, vote for me” in an era when being a rich white guy with a hot wife was a great way to build a popular base of voters.
He lucked into office in 2016 in the same way Obama lucked into office in 2008. In a prior moment, it wouldn’t have worked. In this moment, he was the man that fit what Americans were being sold as Presidential.
I would argue that Trump was significantly smarter than the median GOP primary candidate in '16 and '24. A lot of folks love to pillar him as stupid, but he clearly has an ability to read a room and reflect those feelings back to a crowd in a way DeSantis and Huckabee and Jeb! did not.
He was a frequent guest on the Howard Stern show. He continually forced himself into the lime light every single chance he got. Even the stupidest of fools is bound to develop a skill or two along the way, and over time he did develop media skills and the ability to read a crowd. But he’s still as stupid as a bag of soup.
But I also think he’s a product of the historical moment. His popularity is largely a consequence of decades of political orthodoxy on Rich People Being Better Than You, hammered into the heads of his base voters.
I largely agree with you, but I think his stupidity is a selling point as well. It’s what endears him to “the base”. He thinks like they do: poorly, infrequently…stupidly.
He has what I’ve taken to calling “carnival barker energy”. Certainly not intelligence, and not quite charisma, but a particular kind of stage presence that for some inexplicable reason attracts vibes based morons like flies on shit. He’s basically Cocomelon for manchildren and racists.
Even the stupidest of fools is bound to develop a skill or two along the way
“He’s the worst chess grandmaster of the lot. Never stops playing, keeps ranking up, just coasting along on the sheer number of games he’s played badly and learned from. Hands down, dumb as shit, I would only lose to him 99.95% of the time.”
Again, I think the term “stupid” is just a pejorative at this point. If he was a democrat who kept winning upset elections and outfoxing supposedly superior opponents, what kind of liberal would talk about him this way?
I think his stupidity is a selling point as well
He’s not fixated on looking like a braniac, which means he’s not getting caught in the Tucker Carlson trap of “You don’t even know how many people are in Iran! How can you support bombing them?” Trump isn’t claiming he’s got the encyclopedia memorized. Much like Bush Jr and Reagan, he’s focused on what plays well with the audience, not what sounds “smart” to the debate judges.
Is that stupid? Not when it accomplishes your intended goals.
Incidentally, one of the “dumbest” things Trump did in the wake of his '24 win was that ridiculous cryptocurrency that let him take bribes openly from foreign governments. It quickly restored him from “billionaire on paper” to “real fucking billionaire”. Not because it was so insidiously clever or legalistic, but because the Biden DOJ never prosecuted him when he was out of office. What’s more, the courts that Democrats refused to stack when they had a majority, have given him a free pass on criminal misconduct.
You can give a lot of credit for that to Mitch McConnell, as he spent his whole Senate career carefully staking appointed positions and encouraging career hires with Federalist Society flacks. But Trump’s the guy who is going to capitalize on all McConnell’s hard work and Clinton/Obama/Biden’s passivity. So who really looks like the dumb-dumb here?
stalin also evetuanlly purged his own loyalists after becoming paranoid.
I mean a less harsh version of that has been going on. Trump has ejected many people that used to be in his inner circle, and has, or has tried, to fire almost the whole federal government, too many people who got there without him to trust
Oh don’t worry, he’s still trying to get feds to quit, and they’re drooling at adding sycophantic bullshit to the hiring process. All while eroding union protections, benefits, and pay.
All while the Democrats vote down attempts to combat Trump, but have all the time in the world to sabotage the primary resultant nominee in NYC. Why have a primary if you’re not going to go with the results? That’s not a primary - that’s just bullshit.
This country is a fucking joke.
Why have a primary if you’re not going to go with the results? That’s not a primary - that’s just bullshit.
Welcome to the DNC. Their primaries (at least the bigger ones) have been bullshit for a long time. Like, they’re notorious for bullshit regarding primaries. I like to point to my own state in 2016 as an example, where Clinton won the primary despite getting around 35% of the vote while Sanders won in every county and Clinton didn’t even manage second in every county.
The main difference is that this time the “wrong” candidate won despite the bullshit, so now he needs to lose the general, whatever that requires. Again, welcome to the DNC.
here’s hoping
Not exactly. While I understand the satisfaction of seeing these asshats getting their faces eaten by the leopard, the ones being purged are the ones that are most likely to keep him somewhat in check, leaving only scared little yes men behind.
In a one party system that would be a problem. In a two party system, it just drives the ex-communicated into the arms of their past enemy. (Whilst weakening any progressive thought within that party as they bend over backwards to appease the new influx of political support…)
You misunderstand the nature of the US right now. It is not a two-party system anymore.
well I was hinting at the partisan ratchet effect in the last part of my comment there, but fair
It turns out the Red Scare was about the wrong Reds the whole time.
Been saying it for a while, better dead than red.
I fucking love that he chose to call them stalinists. In addition to it being true, it send a fuck you to the alt-right and the alt-left (who love to talk up stalin as of late)
Who in the alt left is talking about Stalin lol maybe some whackos online
Stalin took the Russian state from an agricultural backwater to a Space Age superpower in a matter of twenty years.
If he’d started out a Virginia plantation owner instead of a Georgian bank robber, capitalists would have loved him. He’d be bigger than Churchill.
American liberals love (the whitewashed version of) FDR because they see the quasi-socialism of the mid-20th century as the morally correct path. Eastern Europeans - who came through two world wars and repeated genocides on every front - have a lot more of an appetite for Iron Fisted Dictator[Communist] after enduring generations of Iron Fisted Dictator[Monarchist]
But the way in which he did it was very costly. Stalin is comparable to Musk in that sense. In love with technology and factories, but too focussed on advancement no matter the human cost. Everything was about efficiency.
If he hadn’t been, would the USSR survived? That focus on technology, factories, and efficiency, no matter the cost, seems like the right approach when there’s Nazis at your doorstep, conquering all of Europe and conducting mass exterminations.
Nothing says “preparing for war against the Nazis and capitalists” like murdering your entire officer corps of true believers that won the Revolution that you didn’t actually fight in
Stalin is comparable to Musk in that sense.
Christ. Musk is, if anything, more comparable to Henry Ford.
Billionaire car magnet with whole municipal governments in his pocket who wrecked public transit and spread antisemitism all over Europe? That’s not the editor and chief at Pravda.
If you were to put Stalin anywhere in contemporary US politics, I’d say he’s comparable to Shyam Sankar - the Palantir CTO who was recently granted the rank of Lt. Colonel in the US military. Or, perhaps, just straight up comparing him to Peter Thiel minus all the buggery.
In love with technology and factories, but too focussed on advancement no matter the human cost. Everything was about efficiency.
Silicon Valley has swarms of these guys. Most of them aren’t constantly pissing themselves from too much Ketamine.
From someone who has gone to more than a few political protests and rallies in Boston:
Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it. It’s like they’re trying to alienate reasonable people as well as historically-informed people. I consider myself a staunch socialist. I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots who wrapped their regimes in “communism” banners.
Sure, some of the systems at lower levels were socialistic, but at the end of the day, it was all in service to the cult of personality in charge of the whole gig. And yes, that’s what the US has devolved into (and arguably had done so quite a while ago, just not so overtly), but that doesn’t excuse Stalin or Mao, nor does it justify being an apologist for them.
Oh man, a thousand times this, fucking tankies are a pain and a ball and chain on the leg of progress.
Every fucking time Socialist Alternative shows up, it’s fine until some edgelord dipshit unfurls the fucking huge Soviet flag with Stalin and Mao silk screened on it.
I’m not super familiar with Socialist Alternative, but aren’t they a Trotskyist org? What are they doing waving Stalin flags?
The only person I’ve encountered waving Stalin flag at a protest said they were a Maoist when I asked
I also outright detest Stalin and Mao because they were fucking authoritarian despots
You could easily say the same of Washington or Eisenhower or Churchill or DeGualle.
Hell, Lincoln got got by a guy who was literally shouting “Sic Semper Tyrantus”.
The thing that sets Stalin and Mao apart from the Francos and Mussolinis and Tojos and Chang Kai-Sheks and Churchills was their break from the old line aristocracy. The thing westerners hate more than anything was their overthrow of the local monarchies.
That’s why you have folks weeping big crocodile tears over Anastasia and Puyi, while they whistle past the graveyard of the countless Chinese and Russian victims of Romanov/Qing Dynasty misrule.
From that perspective, any thoughts on Ho Chi Minh?
Of all the leaders good, bad, and, ugly over the last century, he doesn’t seem to be brought up as much by propaganda machines.
Why is it always Mao or Stalin? Can’t they at least go with folks who shed the blood of fascists like Tito or Castro? They werent particularly good either but at least they were doing the best with their dealt decks. Mind you I fucking loathe elevating folks to positions of respect unless they were my ancestors or damned well earned it via death and glory.
Mostly the tankies on .ml
I’m just kinda here, idk wth the rest of the instance is up to
in my experience, every tankie I came across is from .ml, not saying every .ml user is a tankie, but every tankie is a .ml user.
maybe some whackos online
Checks out.
Who, you know, MIGHT be real people but probably aren’t for the most part…
I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people… they are propaganda bots.
Lemmy is far too small to bot.
lemmy.ml is just friendly to those people, so it attracts them.lemmy.ml was built by those people, sometimes it feels for the express purpose of spreading their bullshit.
Yeah, how dare they build a space where they could express their views!
Fuck off, tankie
Yeah, that’s plausible.
Lemmy.ml only has ~2100 monthly active users. I would guess that likely at least half of them are randos who just joined what they thought was the default instance.
That leaves about 1000 or so (likely even less) active tankies. That’s not a lot of people. I’m pretty sure you could find more than that amount of tankies in pretty much every single metropolis worldwide.
If its only a thousand people, can we just ignore them then.
Currently, Lemmy only has 46 000 monthly active accounts in total, so 1 000 is quite a significant share of that. Especially considering that these 1000 are very vocal.
Remember, this is not Reddit or Facebook with billions of active users. Lemmy in its entirety is smaller than some phpbb forums used to be.
I mean, ~3500 of these monthly active accounts are from lemmynsfw.com alone, and these are most likely double accounts for people who have accounts on a non-nsfw instance. And in general it’s quite likely the the amount of monthly active accounts is much larger than the number of actual monthly active users, considering that a significant portion of users will have more than one lemmy account and that there are some moderation bots and stuff like that around.
dude what the fuck
If you’re not a tankie, you shouldn’t be offended by, “tankies on .ml”
That instance actively and demonstrably moderates counter-opinions to tankie rhetoric, to the point where the instance is just a field of landmines for those that don’t tow the line. They are a terrible, gross farse of “leftists” and deserve all the shit they catch and more.
I was objecting to this part
I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people… they are propaganda bots.
Of course there are tankies on ML, though i gotta admit I rarely see them with my filters.
Plenty of hate-filled accounts on world that I block too
.worlder describes .world
They’re robots, Morty, I don’t respect them
Aw I thought he called the sanatists but I think either would work
Modern Satanists are actually extremely progressive. The Satanic Temple makes a point of using legislation intended to promote Christianity to promote their own religious organization.
It pisses off the reactionary religious zealots and shows them to be hypocrites, and there’s nothing legislators can do about it without blatantly giving preferential treatment to the “correct” religion.
To be fair, the Satanic Temple isn’t exactly satanic per se. It’s more of a parody religion to point out the unfair law exceptions churches get. They are more anti-church (or maybe even anti-religion) than actually satanic.
I’d be very surprised if a significant portion of members of the Satanic Temple actually seriously believe in the existence of satan.
It’s about the same as e.g. the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I’m talking about their version of satanists not the real people
Shame they’re not santanists
Great guitarist
We worship that tone amirite?
sanatists
Ah yes. Sanat, Satan’s lesser known brother.
I think you see how I got satanists from stalinists now
Who would win, Sanat or Craig?
Hah use their communist rhetoric back at them
I voted for him in the primary, then in the general as a write in and I would fucking do it again. Bern the billionaire’s faces off.
