• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    You mean the peace treaty he signed with Hitler to stall for time and build weapons after France and Britain refused to join forces with him to fight Hitler.

    Have you considered asking yourself why France and Britain refused?

    It is quite astounding to blame Stalin, the guy who basically fought Hitler all by himself, for the Holocaust.

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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

      Stalin’s actions killed 7-20 million people, intellectuals, minorities, and poor people. At least a million of which were deliberate deaths. People who defend that for political expedience are unquestionably misinformed or evil, take your pick. My family was fleeing for their lives.

      I am all for some form of socialism, defending evil people is not how you get it.

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        Damn, that’s a suspiciously wide range.

        Does it include Nazi soldiers killed by the red army in world war two? (Spoilers: yes)

        This person is mad about dead Nazis

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          My ancestors were Jewish, they were chased out under threat of death. Absolutely repugnant to claim I’m mad about dead Nazis in that context.

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          If that is true then trump is based and ice is deporting illegal criminals and rapists.

          Youre a literal palette swapped nazi and deserve the same fate as nazis.

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            Really telling on yourself that you consider undocumented immigrants morally equivalent to literal Nazi soldiers killed in combat by the people they were invading hitler-detector

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            Trusting anything the US has to say about it’s enemies is always a mistake, and given how well documented our history of fabricating justifications for our foreign policy is it’s an extremely stupid one

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          10 hours ago

          My Jewish grandparents on multiple sides were told to flee or die by Stalin’s drooling simps. My primary source is many of my great grandparents and the thousands of others that fled Russia at the barrel of a gun. Talk to any reputable Russian historian in the last 50 years and some figure in the many millions is going to come up. We have endless first hand accounts and mountains of historical evidence. To deny this history is like being a Holocaust denier. What exactly is your goal here?

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            Cool story, unfortunately for you some shit that allegedly happened to your grandparents proves absolutely nothing, and the historians considered reputable on the topic by western powers have been caught making shit up more than once. Trusting what the US has to say about its enemies is always a bad decision, you might be stupid enough to do it but I’m not.

            And lol@ your holocaust denial comparison, we’ve got a shitload of hard evidence for it and fuck all to support your story

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          Wikipedia is a better source than most of what you can find on the internet these days. Its articles provide ample sources that you can check if you like. I’d say Wikipedia is one of the best things the current internet has. But if you don’t like it perhaps you would prefer conservapedia.

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            Wikipedia is a bastion of imperialist propaganda. Until recently it claimed that Israel fought a defensive war in 1967 and did a “preemptive attack”. Anyone who actually studied its history knows how blatantly wrong those lies are.

            Wikipedia is great for science but awful for anything politics related. Especially if it opposes the Western hegemony. The literal CIA propaganda outlet Radio Free Asia is somehow a “credible source” which they frequently cite whenever they need lies about anything opposing the empire.

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            18 hours ago

            Incredibly wrong, I had the pleasure of correcting someone else earlier today who posted an excerpt of a wikipedia article regarding financial aid to Palestine as a source, the sole cited source of which was a Times of Israel article which contained no substantiating evidence whatsoever. The only things wikipedia can be trusted to reliably get right are basic scientific articles, anything remotely politically or culturally controversial will be skewed to fit one agenda or another. If the sources for the wiki article are any good then post them directly instead of referring to them secondhand through wikipedia, otherwise you’re just knowingly outsourcing a lie. And lol @ suggesting that any criticism of wikipedia must be from a conservative, swing and a miss kiddo.