“We’re looking at doing something where in the case of good, reputable farmers, they can take responsibility for the people that they hire, and let them have responsibility, because we can’t put the farms out of business, and at the same time, we don’t want to hurt people that aren’t criminals,” Trump told reporters.
Sounds a lot like slavery to me
They just need to buy a few more shitcoins.
So, the immigrants are criminals if they are not authorized to be in the country. But the people unlawfully employing them aren’t criminals? I’m confused about what he’s saying, but then again, I’m also 100% he’s confused about what he’s saying so you can’t really blame me, right?
This isn’t about immigration or migrant workers, this is purely racist theatre. Punishing brown people for the sake of being evil.
If the government REALLY wanted to end undocumented workers, they’d go after the people hiring them. Workers are mobile. They move around a lot. 30000 acre farms pretty much just stay put. The owners of those farms already have tight margins some years. Imagine how it would be if they got hit with a $50k fine for each undocumented worker? Undocumented workers would end overnight because they can hire minimum wage worker for less than the 50k fine.
The crime is not being white.
He’ll decide in two weeks.
However, it would be pretty intelligent to target only liberals and leave his base alone. I sorta don’t expect him to be that rational.
all I can do is shake my head every single fucking day with this guy
Yummmm! TACO immigration everyone
Probably going to be nazi style “work camps”
Yes, they’re working back to plantations.
Anybody who still believes any of the words coming out of his mouth is a lost cause.
You can believe these specific words of his. For all intents and purposes, with these measures the Big Orange ended up legalizing slavery after removing the few rights these workers had. Now farmers can do whatever they want with them. If they try to complain to the authorities, they will be sent to Guantanamo or El Salvador, so they will remain silent and obedient even when they experience abuse.
I want people to realize the outsized amount of leverage that farmers will have on their employees. Employers will literally be able to say that they’ll do what they’re told and take whatever they’re given or the employer can just drop a dime to ICE and have them deported without being able to settle their affairs or contact their families.
The status quo will be a radical departure, indeed.
That is entirely the point
This is a fantastic idea. The brilliance of the 47th president strikes again. Give them work permits, ensure they are paid a fair wage and the labour standards are adhered to, and it will guarantee that they become hardworking honest taxpayers who contribute to the American economy.
Wait, that is the plan… right?
Right…?
More likely, he’ll bring back an even more unjust version of the bracero program.
“Best i can do is slave status”
They should just grant all farms/businesses the ability to place premium processing for an i-140 for all of their workers who don’t currently have citizenship under category EB-3 for free. Halt deportations and spend the money on professing those requests for 90 days. Then re-evaluate how much money that saved them, how much money it makes the country in taxes, and maybee realize they should have been encouraging all companies to sponsor their employees before this, and re-evaluate what they count as qualified. A not priority i-140 is standardly is $715 and takes like 8 months.
They could tell employees, if you need a sponsor we will pay you $1 less an hour for 8 months and pay the cost for you, and once the 8 months are up you will get a $1 raise. The company would actually make money doing so.
So, how much is Trump going to charge for these slave-owner permits?
I’m betting they use the “punishment for a crime” clause that allows slavery and begin selling undocumented immigrants to the highest bidder.
I wouldn’t put full blown slave auctions past these people
I never understood why trump did the pope thing. I think I get it now. He wants to sell Indulgences.
“However, the abuse of indulgences for almsgiving, so that they became a method of moneyraising or ignored the requirements for contrition or charity, had become a serious problem which the church recognized but was unable to restrain effectively.[9]”
I dunno, how much does a permit to run a prison in the US cost?
Yep. Keep them as slaves. Or very close to it. It’s so obvious. Due to everything that’s happening the immigrants will be in fear and desperation. They’ll work for below minimum wage in horrid conditions and be too afraid to do anything about it.
yes, this is what will happen, but don’t delude yourself into thinking this is new
what you describe has been the reality of agriculture (and other industries) for a while now, and not just in the US, it’s this way in canada too for example
I mean, I only worked one season with migrant laborers, so you may have more experience…
But a lot just aren’t gonna come here this season. They don’t need us, at least not as much as we need them. If anything I’d expect all this shit to drive up their wages.
Quick edit:
There’s a misconception farm work is “unskilled”, it’s not. So the vets stay out and we get less experienced workers who do the job slower, and for a higher hourly to deal with the risk and uncertainty.
So both per hour wages and amount of hours needed are gonna go up.
Shits still going to become substantially more expensive.
Saw it in construction too. Don’t do it anymore but between summers and winters and after school, I put a few years into working construction in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s.
Immigrant, not an immigrant. Legally here, not legally here. Experience is experience. And experience saves you money.
That was my 1st thought. “Let the owners take responsibility for them” sounds an awful lot like indentured servitude. If at any point, their boss could decide to simply rescind that protection and have them deported, then they’re basically trapped.
He’s saying the quiet part out loud again.
Like, yeah dude, we all know the reason why we demonize “illegal” immigrants so much is so that they can be exploited for cheap labor. You don’t gotta rub it in our faces.
Sounds like bullshit.
Source: Farms near me have already lost people to deportation. People with no criminal record. People who paid more taxes than a lot of people I know. People who work hard.
Fuck this administration.
There’s a tension in the Republican party between the ones that talk about immigration just to be elected (the owner class that bankrolls the Republican party), and the ones that actually want them gone (like Stephen Miller and most of the MAGA base). The former realises that illegal immigration is useful to stop workers from organising and depress wages, the latter doesn’t care about that and wants them gone. That’s why you are Trump taking both sides of the issue: he wants exceptions for hotels, construction and farms (because he’s hired illegals himself for these things), but he also doesn’t want to alienate his base because ‘they took our jobs’ and all that.
That’s the main reason ICE has historically been told to only deport ‘criminals’ and leave the rest alone instead of doing what they’re doing now.
Ha tension! Wake me up when one of these fuck heads goes on camera and calls trump a little bitch. Until then they are all terrified of a guy that shits himself.
They’re welcome to carry it a lot farther than that.
Why would they need to do that? All they had to do was call him and ask for him to stop with the raids on businesses (possibly in exchange for a donation), and they got exactly what they wanted.
I’m low key waiting for some republican chucklefuck from arkansas or some shit to propose reintroducing the three fifths compromise for immigrants.
Why not go all the way and bring back pure slavery?
I think it’s a nonzero, albeit extremely small, possibility at this point
“Transition to Slavery: In some regions, particularly in the American colonies, indentured servitude eventually gave way to racialized chattel slavery as a more profitable and permanent source of labor”
One of the main reasons for that was that it was easy to run away from an indenture.
Trump wants white slaves.
Slavery by any other name.
let them eat taco
