Summary:

I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.

I didn’t go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.

One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.

  • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
    292·
    6 days ago

    LLM generated polandball comic

    WHY

    i literally just made one in like 5 minutes, and i didn’t even need a good or interesting idea. i put in the minimum amount of effort. they are literally balls with no mouth, nose or any other detail, just a circle, a flag and two eyes

    A polandball comic. First panel has the USA ball saying "'murica, heck yeah!" while wearing sunglasses. In the second panel, Mexico ball has no reaction and looks annoyed, while Canada ball says "why are you like this? eh". The way USA ball is colored is visibly worse and low effort in the second panel.

      • Sturgist@lemmy.ca
        5·
        5 days ago

        Thing is, as someone who has fooled around with locally hosted image gen, it’s actually sometimes a whole fucking lot of work to try and bend prompts to get the stupid algorithm to spit out what you want. They’d rather put in a shit tonne of effort for an objectively worse result.

        • Nangijala@feddit.dk
          3·
          5 days ago

          That is also my thought. If you want to make AI generated content, which is going to cost the environment a ton (40 phone charges per prompt, people) and do prompt after prompt after prompt - then WHY would you waste all that time and pollution on a fucking gag comic that you could draw yourself in five minutes?

          To me, that is peak retardation when it comes to AI fanboys. At least use that time and pollution on something worthwhile.

  • Soapbox@lemmy.zip
    223·
    5 days ago

    So your telling me that if I go downvote a bunch of stuff in one AI slop community someone will ban me from all of them for me and save me the work of blocking them all?

    • Widdershins@lemmy.world
      91·
      5 days ago

      I complained about slop in the other thread and got banned from at least two, hopefully more. Only found out when I went to block a couple of communities someone linked.

      I think I would be willing to pay for a lemmy experience that replaces ai slop posts with ads. Ads with autoplaying videos and sound. Ads that when accidentally clicked open the app store to some obvious malware. Anything that doesn’t kill one rainforest tree per post.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
    583·
    7 days ago

    AI Evangelists are cringe people.

    I saw some freak at a prostest passing out flyers saying AI was sentient and we need to give it legal rights.

    These people are delusional, incapable of living in reality.

  • Luffy@lemmy.ml
    222·
    6 days ago

    Wait, are you telling me that people who use AI nowadays are completely deranged?

  • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
    552·
    7 days ago

    Yeah the mental gymnastics of some of these ai moderators is hitting Reddit level of cringe. Downvoted and blocked some ai slop communities that came across my timeline and had one butthurt genius block me from a few places they mod.

    Ai bros are just the worst insecure shitheads out there. Absolutely worse than crypto bros ever were.

    • stoly@lemmy.world
      82·
      7 days ago

      LOL before you mentioned Crypto I was going to say that they are just like CryptoBros. Do you think that AIBros are worse?

      • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
        183·
        7 days ago

        They are absolutely worse. Ai bros have this huge self righteous ego “it’s just a tool” while dismissing all the environmental damages, loss of human made creativity and it funneling money away from creators and into greedy CEOs pockets.

        At least the crypto bros stay in the financial sector, Ai shitheads are out claiming it’s the “next ai revolution” on every damn topic.

        Even worse are the Ai apologists saying it’s a capitalism problem not an Ai issue. Yeah like you aren’t using the tools of capitalism to give them more power you idiots. You are actively making it worse. You aren’t some resistance fighter stealing the means of production. You are just a cog in their machine.

  • Noxy@pawb.socialEnglish
    382·
    7 days ago

    I blocked the whole community after seeing bullshit like “no rule against AI means you must imply that any criticism of AI is against the rules”

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
      373·
      7 days ago

      I have been debating whether or not to block the entire db0 instance because of its pro-AI stance. It’s weird to me that a self-proclaimed anarchist instance is so pro-GenAI garbage. Even the reasoning of being pro-AI because it’s anti-copyright is dumb as fuck.

      • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldEnglish
        262·
        7 days ago

        Yeah they see themselves as “seizing the means of production” but they aren’t doing shit. You aren’t a freedom fighter using Ai. You are just another tool in their machine and you are giving them more power.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
          91·
          6 days ago

          They aren’t pro corpo Ai.

          They’re very much against the mass scraping/ddos ai companies are doing.

          All of the self-hostable LLMs and image generators (or at least, all of the ones capable of the quality people have come to expect for the last few years) people are using today are trained on massive scraped datasets far beyond the reach of hobbyists. There are many so-called “open source” models which are free to modify (eg, by fine-tuning) and to redistribute, but the data used for the initial training (which hobbyists are allowed to build upon) cannot be published because doing so would obviously be large-scale copyright infringement.

          Also, even with the data (which in many cases also needs to be labeled/annotated using human labor), the cost of training such a model from scratch is astronomical.

          As a pirate myself, I totally understand how, after reading that Meta’s training data included 82TB of pirated books they torrented, one’s first thought might be “🤤” … but to imagine that this makes Meta our ally in the fight against copyright is some temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire kind of thinking.

        • PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world
          22·
          5 days ago

          You’ve been posting on this instance for 6 days, yet you seem so knowledgeable about the user in question. Insteresting…

      • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
        41·
        6 days ago

        Everyone should block that corporate bootlicking pro-AI shithole, they’re bad news and nothing good can ever come of them.

  • TootSweet@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    123·
    5 days ago

    I noticed just yesterday or maybe two days ago that MysticMuchroom had banned me from [email protected] calling me an “Anti-AI Troll” in the modlog. I’m fairly certain I’ve had exactly zero interaction with the stable_diffusion_witches before or since.

    My guess is that ze had previously banned me from [email protected] for downvoting too much and preemptively also banned me from stable_diffusion_witches when ze first created it.

    Then ze had the gall to come to this thread to troll and file reports to me (I’m a mod here on [email protected]) about people calling zir out for basically exactly that behavior.

    Oy.

    I think the need for more explicit rules in the sidebar is getting more crucial. I might see about trying to make that happen soon. I’ll probably start by DMing @[email protected] and see where it goes from there.

    Edit: And now I think MysticMushroom is evading zir ban. Either that or someone else is impersonating them.

    • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      5 days ago

      I believe that db0 is here to brigade this thread with downvotes, as well. In the past they have done the same with the admins themselves participating and inciting it even, leveraging plausible deniability to do so but it’s very obvious to those willing to entertain the idea.

  • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeEnglish
    242·
    7 days ago

    Ha! Was curious and just checked - they recently banned me from the same communities. I certainly don’t go looking for AI stuff to downvote but probably have done so a couple times if I see it in /all and it’s egregiously bad. Guess that was too much for them.

    Imagine being so incredibly fragile that you ban folks because they downvoted a post on a site where karma doesn’t exist and you had an AI create the content you posted.

    I think as more people get sick of AI bullshit, the cheerleaders are seeing the reaction and thinking it’s some dark conspiracy when it’s just folks saying “Hmm, that’s kinda crappy, isn’t?”

    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
      49·
      6 days ago

      You downvoted me for posting a bash script, I guess I know why now. Vote count does matter a little bit because you’re pushing someone’s post down so others can’t see it. Kind of a bummer when I’m just trying to grow a small community and share with people.

        • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
          65·
          6 days ago

          I’m constantly getting down votes because of the community topic. I’m making sure that it’s not someone habitually downvoting. If it were then I would refer it to the admins. People think flipping = scalping so ancaps and others kneejerk downvote. I fixed some broken consoles this weekend and now I’m going to re-sell them, but they don’t understand that. Just like someone downvoted me for using an llm as a search engine to learn how to so something new.

          • Lightor@lemmy.world
            73·
            6 days ago

            So you keep track of everyone who votes you, then if you decide they’ve down voted you too much you report them? Instead of accepting they disagree with you often?

            I think using an LLM to actually learn anything technical is a bad idea too. I implement and maintain AI systems for our company, I understand the wild amount of confident hallucinations it can have. I would down vote that too.

            You seem way too fragile to be online honestly. I don’t mean that as an insult, really. But if you get that upset by down votes that you track who down votes you and report them, then the real world will be tough. You can’t let that stuff get to you man, especially from nameless, faceless strangers.

      • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeEnglish
        42·
        6 days ago

        Just a suggestion - don’t say you “created” something when you then go on to say you had AI do it for you.

        • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
          45·
          6 days ago

          Except that I wrote most of it first and had to fix problems myself because it was buggy as hell. It really only gave me the jq urI part.

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    82·
    6 days ago

    I was also in that thread and have blocked the whole instance. Literally the first thing I did when I made my account was block the AI images communities, because I don’t want it in my feed. The .dbzer0 mods have now made it clear that every comm on their instance is an AI image comm, and if you talk about it or complain, you can expect your comments to be removed in the same way they would be if you went into a specifically AI image community. Like, not only is there no requirement or expectation that it be tagged as AI, but you can’t even expect to see it mentioned in the comments because that’ll be censored. They’re really trying to shove it down everyone’s throats and ban anyone who complains.

    “Being anti-AI is intrinsically reactionary” is a direct quote from Unruffled. None of them are at all open to hearing criticism or discussion about it.

  • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
    105·
    6 days ago

    I crossposted this thread to [email protected], and here was db0’s response

    Not surprising whatsoever. Someone should really make an alternative to that community that isn’t on dbzer0. YPTB is biased as fuck and they’re not above accusing people like us of sowing drama just because they don’t like criticism of their slop.

  • Unsung Rooster@sh.itjust.works
    106·
    6 days ago

    Lol it just keeps on getting better, dbzer0’s admins apparently think that banning anyone who downvotes in your community to create an echochamber is somehow a good thing

  • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.deM
    121·
    7 days ago

    I noticed this a while ago but just found it funny and moved on. I think they rage ban anyone who posts here. The reason why someone who apparently is very pro-AI would visits an Anti-AI community just to be angry eludes me.