• nifty@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians. The anti-Israel propaganda is just being used to drive the Muslim and progressive vote away from Dems. I think it’s turning out to be successful.

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      10 months ago

      It’s not just Jill Stein, it’s a lot of people you see talking about Gaza as some blood curdling atrocity, but they don’t have the same level of empathy or consideration for Ukrainians.

      I don’t want the US government selling weapons to Russia to use against Ukrainians. I’m glad we aren’t.

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          10 months ago

          Do you believe Putin when he claims Ukraine is committing genocide against Russia in the Donbas region,

          Of course I don’t. It’s why I’m glad that we’re not selling him weapons.

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              10 months ago

              Putting a question mark at the end of a lie doesn’t make it a question. I’m already voting for Harris, and you will never care because all you want in this world is total unquestioning loving support for Netanyahu and the genocide he’s committing for you.

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                10 months ago

                You can put “but I’m voting for Harris” in tiny font at the end of one of your countless attacks on Democrats, it doesn’t absolve you of the damage you do.

                Also I’m starting to worry you’re getting high on your own supply here - you do recall that I don’t actually support Netanyahu and your accusing me of it is just a rhetorical device, right?

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                  10 months ago

                  Since you keep ignoring that I’m not a trump supporter and keep lying about me, there’s no reason for me to take anything you say at face value either.

                  edit: Elsewhere in the thread, there’s someone outright denying genocide. You’ve chosen to focus your attention on someone who objects to genocide instead.

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            10 months ago

            Why can’t they? You accuse everyone you talk to of supporting genocide. Quit playing the victim of the exact same shit you do to everyone here.

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      10 months ago

      And other lies you tell yourself.

      I’ve never met a Palestinian supporter that isn’t also a Ukrainian supporter.

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          10 months ago

          I signed up to Lemmy without knowing much about instances, can’t remember exactly why I picked lemmy.ml but it wasn’t politics.

          Is this really a generalisation people have? Should I move…?

          • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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            10 months ago

            your admins also run lemmygrad. only you can decide if you should leave. personally, i like beehaw, slrpnk, dbzero, and blahaj. one important aspect to understand about the fediverse is that your instance is part of the identity you present to others

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              10 months ago

              It has nothing to do with your identity. They all have different rules and different communities. Its more like which hotel chain you prefer to stay at. Its a preference for sure, but one that doesnt matter much.

              People who judge based on instance are only outing themselves anyways. Churlish.

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                10 months ago

                it does say something though about what style of moderation you prefer and who you associate yourself with. that’s why it’s literally part of the identity you present. it’s embedded in your username. it’s like your fediverse last name.

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                  10 months ago

                  Sort of, at best it means that instance hasnt banned that person, yet.

                  You could argue it means something more than nothing, I’d argue its not enough to matter.

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                    10 months ago

                    People really want to be allowed to be bigots and currently Communism is “safe” to hate, so they let a few interactions color their opinion of an entire, loosely-affiliated group.

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                  I’ve been on Lemmy for a year and only now I’m learning about instances. I’ve read a few threads about lemmy.ml being “tankies” and that hexbear is the worst, but haven’t had any negative interactions with either. Shit, I don’t know the majority of the time which instance I’m interacting with.

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        10 months ago

        There are 20 Israel stories to every 1 Ukraine story on Lemmy.

        Regardless of your opinion on the matter, this platform is being heavily astroturfed, and so are many other “liberal” platforms. It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.

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          10 months ago

          Of course there are, and I probably post 3 of the 20.

          Other than the alt-right, you’re not going to find any support for Russia in the West.

          Why would we need to raise awareness and keep posting about Ukraine to the same level as Palestine?

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              10 months ago

              You absolute little liar.

              the deceptive practice of presenting an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign in the guise of unsolicited comments from members of the public.

              I am a real person, with an ethical obligation to stand up against genocide. There is no deception, I am a member of the public, and what I am doing is called activism (or slacktivism for the pessimists in the world).

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                So, you admit that you are flooding this platform to deliberately present one story as more dominant in the news cycle than others in order to misrepresent its relevancy to current events?

                You can argue definitions and semantics all day, but that is what you’re doing - and it’s dishonest at best.

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                  10 months ago

                  You are saying posting on aggregate media sites is dishonest?

                  That is just ridiculous.

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          10 months ago

          It’s actually way worse here than on Reddit.

          Because after r/ChapoTraphouse was kicked out from Reddit for inciting violence, the tankies moved to create lemmy.ml.