• JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world
    31·
    52 minutes ago

    The comic lands because it’s really about basic respect and communication, not “rules.” Simple ideas, but easy to forget.

  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
    153·
    5 hours ago

    If you’re just after sex and can’t get any via casual hook ups from bars / dating apps / fetish groups then just pay a consenting adult for sex.

    If you’re after genuine human connection and a relationship then you should work on yourself to be someone you’d like to be in a relationship with.

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      24 minutes ago

      Don’t forget about half of the world weirdly has made paying a consenting adult for sex illegal and extremely punishable beyond all fucking reason.

      A quarter has made it quasi illegal or legal in a sense that basically is so limited it might as well be illegal

      And the last quarter it’s legal. Which is basically just South America and the middle part of Western Europe.

  • Jmsnwbrd@lemmy.world
    517·
    2 hours ago

    Okay, brand new contributor who happened to just start an account 6 days ago. . . Now do a comic about the complexities of men. . . .Oh, wait - we’re just a bunch of testosterone fueled dicks? Oh, okay . . . Fuck off!

    • wabasso@lemmy.caEnglish
      141·
      2 hours ago

      It’s not strictly implied men aren’t also complex. It’s simply implied that there is a sizeable group of people who treat women like the vending machine. You can treat women poorly and be complex at the same time.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        1·
        8 minutes ago

        True, though I can’t help but wonder where the accompanying comic is that implies there’s a sizeable group of people who see men as just dumb bank accounts who only want sex and are pigs, and how that comic would be perceived as opposed to this one.

        I’m betting the author didn’t make said comic and anyone who posted it if it were made would be called an incel immediately, but who knows.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      2·
      1 hour ago

      Also differs person to person, but I think there is a useful highlight in here.

      Traditionally being the “dominant” gender, men are expected to show signs of attention towards women to “earn” their affection (which the meme is essentially about).

      But when it comes the other way around, it both breaks the social script and gives men something they severely lack - feeling that they matter, that they are worthy of attention, that they can be loved for who they are and not for what they do. And when someone is ready to break traditional norms and actively wants to give you something you never even hoped to receive, it lets the guard down pretty rapidly.

      Overall, the solution to both, in my eyes, is for women to show more of such behavior, normalizing women initiating relationships and showing their affection from the start.

      The reason men often go after women despite being refused is that culture often mixes “no as no” and “no as playful yes”. If women would be casually able to initiate relationships, signals would get much clearer, sparing everyone a ton of discomfort and allowing to actually build the culture of consent. Also, there would be less space for manipulation through abusing people’s needs.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      211·
      6 hours ago

      Literally if you’re nice to me I’ll be attracted to you eventually. I don’t think this is healthy, it’s been abused in the past lol

    • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
      8·
      6 hours ago

      Except the output can be either “i think you like me” or “i think you’re trying to sell me something or take advantage of me”.

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    641·
    13 hours ago

    I blame romance movies and novels and such. It’s such utter bullshit, how the stereotypical storyline is that she rejects him at first and then he’s just really desperate persistent and then she eventually softens up and they’re married ever after.

    Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think you’re cute beforehand.
    But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting. They want to have a partner they actually find attractive themselves, not just any partner who finds them attractive enough to persist through humiliation.

    • Baggie@lemmy.zip
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Yeah I literally spent the first few decades of my life thinking this because nobody told me how it actually works, and media was all I had to go on.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      11·
      6 hours ago

      The guys in these romance movies also tend to be fairly handsome and charming. The rejections are more often because the woman has had bad experiences with men and is careful. Or something else like that. Or maybe she’s got an abusive boyfriend she hasn’t left yet. Whereas in real life it’s entirely possible to just not be that person’s type.

    • CarrotsHaveEars@lemmy.ml
      201·
      11 hours ago

      I blame them too.

      The stereotype need to die.

      Some men take rejections seriously. If you blow them off then they move on. In some cases men find it really hurts because they know they’ll be good together.

      Can we go back to when no Tinder, no social media to carry out these “modern” romance practice please? No more stupid romance movies. And please every country pass a law to put a disclaimer on Jane Austen’s books, saying “This romance story never happened.”

  • Tikiporch@lemmy.world
    122·
    9 hours ago

    I think anyone can be programmed to like anyone else. Look at most of our politicians.

    • howrar@lemmy.ca
      1·
      47 minutes ago

      I think we should be looking at all the marketing and data collection used to that end.

    • Dave@lemmy.nz
      5·
      7 hours ago

      Am not sure I get the analogy. Most people don’t like politicians and I’m pretty sure politicians are only pretending to like their constituents.