I think the answer is - because they’re lazy and want you to do their dirty work for them. I quite frankly, am not going to call the police over noise complaints because I think management should do something about that. Police should only be called when violence or tenants who get aggressive.
Not because of noise, I just think it’s management dumping responsibility onto you when they’re the ones with the power to evict people.
Laziness, but if your landlord is failing to provide you with quiet enjoyment of your home, in many jurisdictions that’s a breach of your tenancy agreement, speak to your local tenant union.
Not sure why landlord simps are out here defending them
In my area they would get fined as a nusiance property and the fines involved are not cheap.
Because they want the cash and not the responsibility of having as many tenants crammed together as possible.
Not sure where you live, but that hasn’t been my experience at all.
There could be regional variations based on things like tenant laws, local law enforcement policies, and even local culture.
Laziness
Depends on what type of incident; if it’s something like noise in the hall or smoking, my apartment management handles it and lets people know (assuming it’s warning territory).
I’d imagine for anything else, it’s a matter of not wanting to endanger people through escalation of non authority figures. I think you would have to have just cause to evict people, so having an official investigation would be imperitive.
Because noise limits exist and police have the power to enforce them.
Building manglement don’t. The best they can do is say keep it down.
Your landlord has the responsibility to ensure you get quiet enjoyment of the home you live it (by hiring building management they’re delegating that responsible), it’s up to them to sort out noise issues, it’s on the landlord to sort by:
- Installing noise dampening
- Giving other tenants warnings (if it’s something in their contract)
- Contacting the police
- Some other way
Ultimately OPs problem isn’t other tenants, it’s the noise.
Defaulting to involving cops, waste police time and endangers everyone involved.
Your landlord has the responsibility to ensure you get quiet enjoyment of the home you live it
In what part of the world? OP doesn’t say where they are from but it would be unreasonable for a landlord to provide that as there are too many things outside their control like other noise sources from beyond the building.
What world do you live in, where nobody is entitled to quietness and peace? Of course there are things that can’t be dealt with. You can’t go outside and tell the carpet cleaning company that their equipment is too loud to stop it. That is what it is. You can’t report an idiot with loud music from their car who happens to pass by.
But the problem lies when you’re able to hear stupid children of a tenant through the walls directly from yours for nearly all hours of the day. When you have to actually evacuate what was once your bedroom to pile nearly everything into one living room, so now you’re paying for only a third of the apartment (I pay close to $900 by the way). All because there’s a couple who occasionally likes to argue around 1 in the morning and a rambling old seemingly drunk asshole rambling about shit all throughout the night at the same period of the morning.
If you’re paying a landlord $900 a month, close to because RUB charges are involved (base is actually 795) and the lease agreement explicitly goes into a part of the lease agreement. Here, I’ve even taken a snippet from bullet point 9:
“No noise or disturbance allowed: Lessee, Lessee’s guests, occupants and invitees shall not become intoxicated, disorderly, harass or solicit residents, their guests or others, create or cause any odors or create or permit any unnecessary, unreasonable or improper noise or disturbance in or about the Premises or the building of which the Premises are a part, including and not by way of limitation, the operation of a stereo, radio or television set or playing of a musical instrument or singing in a manner or at times which might be objectionable to other tenants.”
The fact that it explicitly says ‘No noise’ and goes a little more into it, implies my problem. Considering how much of that goes on and calling the police is my management’s source of resolving things, they should be hiring an on-site residential officer or something because it’d be almost 24/7 with the rate the police would have to be called.
If your landlord is going to tell you to your face that you’re entitled to your peace, they should be the ones doing anything possible to ensure your apartment is as peaceful as possible with problems they can actually deal with.
In what part of the world?
Anywhere where housing law is derived from English law, so pretty much anywhere that’s English speaking.
it would be unreasonable for a landlord to provide that
For 1/2 my paycheck, dealing with noise complaints is pretty reasonable.
Another day at No Stupid Questions, another bait account.
Another day of someone who thinks they know everything by their armchair.
Wait, so you think the building manager is being lazy by dumping the work on you to contact the people who can solve YOUR problem?
What do you expect a building manager to do and why do you think boise complaints are their responsibility?
- Installing noise dampening
- Giving other tenants warnings (if it’s something in their contract)
- Contacting the police
- Some other way
Ultimately OPs problem isn’t other tenants, it’s the noise.
Wow, that’s uhhhh, an interesting take. If one tenant is too noisy, you want the building manager to install noise dampening somethings? And who determines if it’s too noisy, the landlord who’d have to pay for the renovations?
Edit: Is this actually a standard procedure where you live? Can I ask where that is? That’d just be such a wild way of doing things, I can’t even imagine how that would scale in a modern apartment.
That’s the law in pretty much anywhere that derived their tenancy agreements from English law.
Sadly it is not common practice anywhere as your landlord violating your lease in such a way, it is difficult to get anything done about it, because ultimately you still need somewhere to live and getting out of your contract isn’t a win, in the way that your landlord getting out of his and rendering you homeless if you don’t agree to his terms is.
I can’t even imagine how that would scale in a modern apartment.
You can’t imagine, the guy taking 1/2 your paycheck having to actually earn that money?
That’s the law in pretty much anywhere that derived their tenancy agreements from English law.
Please feel free to share an example, because this seems like absolute nonsense.
The landlord’s duty to adhere to quiet enjoyment means the landlord must:-
- Ensure the tenant’s actual possession of the property is not interfered with by the landlord or the landlord’s agent
- Prevent any interference with the tenant’s enjoyment of the property. Interference may arise because of an omission or failure to act.
The right is usually used to protect against harassment from landlord, but it extends much further.
Neat, our tenancy laws pretty much borrow that word for word!
In this case, loud neighbouts, failure to act would mean not calling law enforcement.
Or letting the place deteriorate would generally count. But, most buildings are up to code etc and the landlord isn’t expected to install extra sound proofing above and beyond code.
You sound like a landlord.
Um, to do something?
Because I’m paying them fucking rent money and shit for a spot? Duh!
To be slightly more polite, as this seems like one of your first places… You absolutely want to keep a neutral third party involved.
In my building, some of us are paying half or a third what new tenants do, the manager has a clear financial incentive to remove as many old timers as possible (and has tried her best.) If the norm was that building managers patrol for noise etc, you could much more easily get into a “he said/she said” with someone who has the means and motivation to remove you. Having the norm be police means that the complaint has to be somewhat valid, not just “enough that the building manager can increase their income stream.”
Landlord shit.
Building manager isn’t your parents. If you have a problem with the building, that’s their issue, if you have a problem with your neighbour, you’re expected to deal with it like any other adult; talk to the person, if that doesn’t work, police.
While the details depend on the jurisdiction, in most of the saner places landlords can’t evict over something like noise. Your anger is misplaced.
Have you tried being an adult and camly talking to your neighbour? Let them know what you hear, how its impacting you and some respectful suggestions on how things can be made better.
Also what kind of noise are we talking about and when? Life makes noise, and you chose to live in an appt with thin walls. Some noise is to be expected.
