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I never understood the most basic, fundamental point of Christianity - how does Jesus getting crucified forgive my sins? Is it some sort of ancient Christian bar bet?
“Oh, you think it’s so easy? You get crucified, and if you really do it, I’ll forgive everybody’s sins.”
“That’s bullshit. You won’t do that.”
"I’ll go you one better - I’ll forgive their sins forever.
All right, you got a bet!"
If I committed a murder, that murder doesn’t just go away just because some random, third party person died somewhere, 2000 years ago. My victim is still dead, the family is still sad, and I’m still a murderer.
The next time I’m in front of a judge, can I claim my crimes are already absolved because a guy died long ago? Of course not, I’m going to jail. The government doesn’t buy that story because it makes no sense, and I’m not buying it either.
So wait… God saved us by killing himself to save us from himself ???
Trinity is messed up in so many wonderful ways tbh
Isn’t it wierd that ultimately Christianity is all about finding that one perfect human sacrifice to stop god being pissed at us.
🎵 When I was a young man, the Romans
Took me up to Golgotha, to be a martyred man
I said, “Son, when you grow up, would you be
The savior of the poor, sick, the homeless, and the damned?” 🎵🎵🥁🥁🥁🎶🥁🥁🥁🎶🥁🥁🥁🎵
“I saved you from being sent to hell.”
“Wait, who was going to send me to hell?”
“I was”
“…”
“Praise and worship pls, I suffered a lot for this.”
The OG conservative undiagnosed-something parent.
Depending on the interpretation the “I was” should be “yourself”.
As God is the source of all life and good, choosing to turn away from Him means hell is self-inflicted.
Ah, so we can kill people for not doing what we want, as long as we warn them first?
Then if they don’t do what we say, their death was self-inflicted.Seems reasonable.
But wouldn’t making us in such a way that their absence amounts to eternal torment also be a deliberate choice by an all powerful being?
I mean, that doesn’t really fix it if you have an actually omnipotent diety though, because that diety would be responsible for, well, everything, to include what the results of rejecting that diety would be.
Isaiah 45:7 : I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things,"
God made the evil.
Even if he wasn’t made up, the god character from the Christian Bible is the most evil, fucked up, bastards in all of fiction. As if murdering the entire planet (minus a hand full of people) wasn’t enough, he then demanded the rape of countless women due to the actions of their fathers and/or husbands. So don’t go around talking about your imaginary friend being this shining moral beacon. Your moral system and foundation of logic is built upon circular reasoning created by a bunch of nomadic biggots jealous of everyone around them.
I pray to Russell’s Teapot you actually read this response, think long and hard about it, and don’t just get caught up with “erm akshully they were Nephilim”
As God is the source of all life and good
If this is what god said, then it’s like Jeff Bezos running ads saying he’s a good guy.
Does original sin exist?
It’s hard to say. I’ve been trying, but I keep finding proof online that somebody else has done so and so before me.
No
Won’t someone unmute jeezus
What difference would that make?
Fuck me, I laughed way too hard at that.
I’d like to hear what he’s saying, for one.
“You been whippin’ them bankers like how I said to do? I best not be finding out you let Caesar co-opt my message in order to continue on the imperial project that killed me”
Hell yeah
EAT THE RICH
I think or something along those lines
Hell yeah
(OT: nice nostalgic username btw. Reminds me I have to take my back pain medication.)
Thanks and same.
Remember that religion is true to the poor, false to the rich, and useful to the powerful.
False to the rich when inconvenient, yes, even as they wrap themselves in the mantle of it for public appearance.
That’s when it’s useful to them.
Remember, the concept of hell doesn’t exist anywhere in Jewish or Christian scripture. It’s a much later Hellenist addition.
I’m atheist but Jesus definitely references hell in the Bible
A quick Google search returned this (a few are from the new testament and the evangelists):
They’re being pretty misleading IMO. The word “hell” doesnt appear anywhere in the original text, no. But neither does the word “heaven”.
And yet the concepts of heaven and hell, as Christians understand them, do exist in the text. There is the threat of eternal punishment after death. There is the promise of eternal reward after death.
That the english word we use doesnt exactly appear in the Hebrew, Greek or aramaic texts is quite frankly not worth mentioning.
This is incorrect. The word “hell” is not Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic and does not occur anywhere in scripture. Every time you see the word “hell” that word has been intentionally mistranslated from other words that already have clear, unambiguous meanings. Aside from word choices, the concept itself originates in Hellenism, the literal Greek Hades. The Roman cults injected their own tradition into the growing Christian cult, and gradually it evolved in the cartoonishly silly “fiery underworld of eternal torture” concept, a very convenient tool for controlling a populace through dogmatic terror.
Where can I read more on this?
Googled (ddgd actually), found this: https://earlychristianhistory.net/hell.html haven’t read it yet, so don’t judge my reading comprehension.
The whole thing about Jesus saving us by suffering and dying… If god was all powerful, he could have saved us without all the suffering part. Since he had to suffer, there are rules that god must adhere to. If god has to obey rules, then he is not all powerful.
Everyone be like “god is merciful and love us all” and then the god smile, bend down, and give sweetheart little Timmy bone cancer.
Timmy would have grown up to be a trump cucking maga shitbrain.
fuck Timmy.
Yet Trump has to live on?..
…wat? It’s not because there’s rules (he very well could have simply snapped his fingers), it’s because he wanted to demonstrate to us how much he loved us. It has to do with the whole “he is the embodiment of both perfect love and perfect justice” thing.
If God is truly this powerful, He’s a psychopath.
He can create us perfect and kind and loyal, and specifically chooses not to. Instead, He bullies us into serving Him, going for a murder spree in the meanwhile, knowing full well it is entirely avoidable.
All to show how much He loves us.
“I’m going to torture and murder this man who helped the poor and sick, just to show you how much I love you”.
Yeah, seems pretty on point for the “you are my chosen people, murder everyone else” god.
So god is a masochist?
He could have demonstrated how much love there is by removing all suffering from the world by snapping his fingers too.
pointless xtian hegemony, more spam from the false faith
YHWH is literally panel 3.
of all the myths out there, this may very well be the least compelling.
