If you want people to vote for us when there isn’t a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who
Consistently tell people Republicans are bad people with bad ideas.
Tell people creating ICE and DHS were Republican ideas and they need to be gotten rid of because Republicans have bad ideas.
Tell people things were better back in the 90s before ICE existed because we didn’t let Republicans’ bad ideas ruin everything and we could just go back to what we were doing then.
Publicly disown anyone who tries to campaign with Republicans or says anything positive about them.
Deviating from those things only loses us votes.
e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive
There are some economic strategies too, but they would involve varying levels of self-inflicted pain. They also need significant coordination to be effective.
If you think you’re limited in your options to represent you in government, then it’s not the land of the free.
It may seem like there’s only two viable options, and those two options will do all in their power to convince people of that, but anyone can be elected if they gain enough support. There are independents after all, and primaries still count for something too, if enough people show up to vote.
Yeah, the way it’s phrased it definitely seems like they want to make things worse by blaming voters for behaving like voters instead of focusing criticism on the elected officials who refuse to really attack the Republican party and its policies and end up demoralizing everyone
He literally posted a solution. Nothing about what he said was quitting, he was telling people what doesn’t work. You know what also doesn’t work? Negative comments on Lemmy. Relatively no one is reading this, and you are are just being aggressive. Relax.
Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.
There. Right there. In the comment. Right there in the comment where he said, “Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.” That’s the part.
You’re talking to 2 different people. Instigating people in bad faith and then trying to call them out about being emotional in their frustrated response is pretty childish, isn’t it? You claim that giving up and making negative comments online is detrimental to the cause, but trolling allies probably doesn’t help either.
This sort of commenter frustrates me. I understand that they don’t want to see negativity in the comment section, but they never offer any sort of positivity, just reprimand.
I’m saying there’s no value in adding doomer loser noise to the signal.
Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.
I’m happy and open to having a positive and constructive conversation, but they don’t start with rude challenges
Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.
Lol, telling someone who is claiming the solution is to convince people to vote a loser is positive?
I mean that’s just the truth… You can’t make changes to the organization of the executive branch without securing the support of both the executive and Congress.
Maybe instead of loosing your shit about people being looser doomers, you might just want to read a book about civics.
And how are we going to do that? By asking politely? Waving more signs? Marches?
Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.
If you want people to vote for us when there isn’t a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who
Deviating from those things only loses us votes.
e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive
Are you like 12 years old or something?
You’re describing their playbook!
There are some economic strategies too, but they would involve varying levels of self-inflicted pain. They also need significant coordination to be effective.
Read: There’s no peaceful solution. Fascism in America has already reached critical mass. Start organizing before it’s too late.
It doesn’t matter how people vote if none of their available options wants to do this.
Articles like this are how you get people to sell candidates that have this position.
I guess it’s just easier to whine about shit though.
If you think you’re limited in your options to represent you in government, then it’s not the land of the free.
It may seem like there’s only two viable options, and those two options will do all in their power to convince people of that, but anyone can be elected if they gain enough support. There are independents after all, and primaries still count for something too, if enough people show up to vote.
People need to vote in the primaries. As bad as turnout in the general election is, the primaries are fucking abysmal.
loser talk
Yeah, the way it’s phrased it definitely seems like they want to make things worse by blaming voters for behaving like voters instead of focusing criticism on the elected officials who refuse to really attack the Republican party and its policies and end up demoralizing everyone
Well, then please teach me how to talk like a winner. Seriously.
I can’t, but you could take this opportunity to stop posting quitter comments online. Just go away if you can’t help
And if “WE’RE FUCKED NO MATTER WHAT WE DO” is all you have to say, you have nothing to say
Seems like loser talk.
He literally posted a solution. Nothing about what he said was quitting, he was telling people what doesn’t work. You know what also doesn’t work? Negative comments on Lemmy. Relatively no one is reading this, and you are are just being aggressive. Relax.
Where?
There. Right there. In the comment. Right there in the comment where he said, “Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.” That’s the part.
You must be confused, or replying to the wrong comment. Either that, or someone’s playing the edit game
Either way, hope your day gets better
He said we need to vote
You say we just need to talk like winners on the internet
At no point did anyone in a thread I replied to say we need to vote, I think you’re too upset about this now
You’re talking to 2 different people. Instigating people in bad faith and then trying to call them out about being emotional in their frustrated response is pretty childish, isn’t it? You claim that giving up and making negative comments online is detrimental to the cause, but trolling allies probably doesn’t help either.
That’s literally what you’re saying.
Try providing actual plans.
This sort of commenter frustrates me. I understand that they don’t want to see negativity in the comment section, but they never offer any sort of positivity, just reprimand.
You’re assuming these commenters are acting in good faith. They typically aren’t.
I’m saying there’s no value in adding doomer loser noise to the signal.
Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.
I’m happy and open to having a positive and constructive conversation, but they don’t start with rude challenges
Still not providing an actual plan.
When you get one, post it.
And I consider phrases like ‘doomer loser’ pretty rude.
ok
Lol, telling someone who is claiming the solution is to convince people to vote a loser is positive?
I mean that’s just the truth… You can’t make changes to the organization of the executive branch without securing the support of both the executive and Congress.
Maybe instead of loosing your shit about people being looser doomers, you might just want to read a book about civics.
You’re commenting on an edit, so I can excuse your tone, but you’re late to the party
Do you not stand by your edit, what’s the problem here?
You just can’t muster a rebuttal?
Lol, now that’s some weak loser shit. Why even respond if you don’t have anything to say that actually defends your claims?
So how fucked are we?