Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.
Shame on the mods in this thread saying you deserved it, these disgusting hypocrites deserve to be banned themselves per their own reason. Never fret downvoting it is perfectly normal if someone has attached their self value onto upvotes it is not your responsibility to satisfy them. Upvote what you want, downvote what you want. Truly shame on anyone who thinks mods should be behaving this way.
It’s context-driven. Small communities trying to build can get visibility hammered by random downvotes. Downvote trolls can be a problem for small communities trying to build up as they can successfully bury threads. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old television lemm.ee community and when I banned them (about 5 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn’t all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and they had no contribution to their names. Some of the accounts in question literally had no posting history. These accounts just existed to downvote.
Now, I wouldn’t just ban random accounts for occasional downvotes spread out over a time period - but if I kept seeing the same names on threads (and they never actually engaged with the community) with no discernable pattern of downvoting - that’s a different story.
Now, did abbotsbury’s behaviour justify that? I have no idea. I’m speaking generally.
And i’ll tell you HHHHwhat, power tripping mods have significantly more negative effect on any community than any downvotes.
Does the situation I refer to above sound like power-tripping to you?
Yes. Take some responsibility, have some humility and harden the fuck up don’t put yourself in a position of power if you are going to use that power when your feelings get hurt.
Has nothing to do with sensitivity. Just simply not wanting new posts to be buried because of random repeat downvoters who clearly have no interest in the community. My community is now long-past this, but it wasn’t always.
Well heres progress. They are “repeat downvoters” and not (((trolls))) now?
I never called anyone a troll.
Oh I was confused by the way you called people trolls so I thought you called people trolls my bad obviously /s
So what exactly makes them trolls? You can’t just call someone doing their own thing a troll, that’s nazi tier wrong. So are they doing it on purpose or are they trying to curate their own feeds by upvoting and downvoting content they see accordingly?
I didn’t use the term “troll” - just that mass-downvoting of content in a community that you don’t engage in is harmful to that communities health and stunts its ability to grow if its sustained.
Whether or not they’re doing it to curate their feeds or not is irrelevant, the point is that it is unwelcome bulk downvoting that only harms the community. If they have no interest in it, and are never going to post in the first place, why would it matter if they’re banned?
Buddy listen to yourself “why would it matter if they’re banned?” and yes you did use the term (((troll))) as a way to justify your actions against individuals you disagree with. You shouldn’t be expressing your opinions through moderation it’s always going to be wrong.
You realise I’m not the person the OP is referring to, right? I’m just saying that mass-downvoting all posts in a community can be harmful to that community and thus sometimes is reasonable for the community owner to ban the person doing it if they have no other contribution and clearly just outright dislike the community.
Okay mass downvoting is bad - is mass downvoting something an individual expressing their opinions can do inadvertently or is it a malicious action by a malicious individual? Again you are trying to paint someone with a different opinion than you as deserving of mod actions.
Whether or not it is malicious or not isn’t relevant really. The effect is still the same.
I mean, speaking broadly - that goes for all actions. If people abuse others or harass others or throw out slurs then I also regard that as “deserving mod action”.
All I’m saying - and being outright open about it - that if someone mass downvotes the majority of posts they see coming from a specific community on the feed, that it’s a perfectly legitimate reason for the community moderator to ban them for that.
“Different opinion” is not equal to “abuse or harass others”. If you were right would you need to make such leaps in logic?