Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.

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    14 days ago

    So what exactly makes them trolls? You can’t just call someone doing their own thing a troll, that’s nazi tier wrong. So are they doing it on purpose or are they trying to curate their own feeds by upvoting and downvoting content they see accordingly?

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      14 days ago

      I didn’t use the term “troll” - just that mass-downvoting of content in a community that you don’t engage in is harmful to that communities health and stunts its ability to grow if its sustained.

      Whether or not they’re doing it to curate their feeds or not is irrelevant, the point is that it is unwelcome bulk downvoting that only harms the community. If they have no interest in it, and are never going to post in the first place, why would it matter if they’re banned?

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        14 days ago

        Buddy listen to yourself “why would it matter if they’re banned?” and yes you did use the term (((troll))) as a way to justify your actions against individuals you disagree with. You shouldn’t be expressing your opinions through moderation it’s always going to be wrong.

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          14 days ago

          Buddy listen to yourself “why would it matter if they’re banned?” and yes you did use the term (((troll))) as a way to justify your actions against individuals you disagree with.

          You realise I’m not the person the OP is referring to, right? I’m just saying that mass-downvoting all posts in a community can be harmful to that community and thus sometimes is reasonable for the community owner to ban the person doing it if they have no other contribution and clearly just outright dislike the community.

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            14 days ago

            Okay mass downvoting is bad - is mass downvoting something an individual expressing their opinions can do inadvertently or is it a malicious action by a malicious individual? Again you are trying to paint someone with a different opinion than you as deserving of mod actions.

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              14 days ago

              Whether or not it is malicious or not isn’t relevant really. The effect is still the same.

              Again you are trying to paint someone with a different opinion than you as deserving of mod actions.

              I mean, speaking broadly - that goes for all actions. If people abuse others or harass others or throw out slurs then I also regard that as “deserving mod action”.

              All I’m saying - and being outright open about it - that if someone mass downvotes the majority of posts they see coming from a specific community on the feed, that it’s a perfectly legitimate reason for the community moderator to ban them for that.

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                14 days ago

                “Different opinion” is not equal to “abuse or harass others”. If you were right would you need to make such leaps in logic?

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                  14 days ago

                  All moderators already make decisions based on their opinion.

                  As I said: If someone mass downvotes the majority of posts they see coming from a specific community on the feed and have no interest in the actual community topic (which seems obvious to me if they’re only downvoting and have never contributed any posts or comments), that it’s a perfectly legitimate reason for the community moderator to ban them for that because of the impact that downvoting at scale has to the community.