Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.

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      Oh I was confused by the way you called people trolls so I thought you called people trolls my bad obviously /s

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          People who downvote posts in your community… I am not sure what you are trying to do by denying it? It is right there you can go reread what you wrote…

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            I never called them trolls for doing that.

            Also, you misunderstand me. I would only ban users who mass downvote and never contribute. I don’t ban users for downvotes here and there.

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              I am not misunderstanding you, you are misunderstanding me. What I am saying is that “only ban users who mass downvote and never contribute” is wrong, both factually wrong and morally wrong. An individual can’t mass vote, a vote is a contribution. You are not a reasonable person, you know this by now right?

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                I am not misunderstanding you, you are misunderstanding me. What I am saying is that “only ban users who mass downvote and never contribute” is wrong, both factually wrong and morally wrong.

                How can it be factually wrong?

                I also disagree that it’s morally wrong.

                An individual can’t mass vote, a vote is a contribution. You are not a reasonable person, you know this by now right?

                By “mass vote” I mean someone going down and downvoting every single post in the community. Not on a single post.

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                  Very simply factually wrong. A downvote is a contribution in itself so there is that, pretty basic. Yes I am aware of the picture you are trying to paint against individuals you disagree with. It’s a trump style move. Things about you are starting to make sense…

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                    Very simply factually wrong. A downvote is a contribution in itself so there is that, pretty basic.

                    I don’t regard downvotes as a valid contribution if that’s all you do. If someone for instance dislikes metal music, and went onto [email protected] and downvoted every post there, I would consider it perfectly legitimate to ban them for that. They’re not meaningfully contributing. They don’t like metal music. Their interaction is effectively vandalism.

                    Yes I am aware of the picture you are trying to paint against individuals you disagree with.

                    I don’t really see how this has anything to do with disagreement. This has to do with communities not having their reach negated by people who disagree with the community itself.

                    Which leads to the obvious question really still unanswered: Why would anyone care if they’re banned from a community for bulk downvoting in the first place? They clearly don’t use it other than to show how they don’t like it. So why would it matter?

                    It’s a trump style move. Things about you are starting to make sense…

                    What things about me would this be?

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                An individual can’t mass vote, a vote is a contribution.

                Let me introduce you to Pfeffy. Not the only user like that, either.

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                  Wow, imagine that an entire community of people clap when someone gets banned from it. Why would someone want to be that way is beyond me…

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                    You’ll note that if you look at their mod log that they’ve been banned from dozens of communities for it.