• aaaa@piefed.world
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    14 hours ago

    Oh yeah then explain Tenet

    Magical machine can make time work backwards.

    Is it really that hard to explain?

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      7 hours ago

      No Tenets problem is that you can’t hear it. So it’s somewhat complicated plot is even more difficult to follow.

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      7 hours ago

      It’s not hard to explain, but boy do some people find it hard to get

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        Just watched it two days ago, all of the explanations were dumb.

        “Friction is reversed” and “The people are reversed but the cars are not” and the whole backwards oxygen thing was all entirely stupid nonsense because they always applied to one thing but not anything else that would be similar and related.

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        Momento and The Prestige might be the exceptions, where the execution did match the ideas. I enjoyed the Batman movies, but they certainly have their silly moments and some major plot holes that can be glossed over because of the source material being comic books.

        But he has certainly leaned really far into the style over substance and over time the characters take a backseat to the point that by TENET no character interactions had any weight or tension and they just ran around and did silly stuff that made no sense.

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          Someday I’m going to make a movie called Momento and it won’t matter what a piece of shit it is, it’ll end up selling plenty of copies simply because people don’t know words.

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          Time travel movies either need to be not really about the time travel. Or all about the time travel.

          In the first instance the time machine is basically just a plot device. So you can have the story set in mediaeval Europe or 5,000 years in the future or whatever. E.g. The Time Machine, Doctor Who, Bill and Ted’s excellent adventure. This is the most common depiction of time travel.

          In the second case the time machine is almost a character, e.g. Primer, and the plot of the game Quantum Break. It allows people to have access to abilities that other people in the story do not have, and fundamentally changes what is possible for those characters.

          But Tenant isn’t either of those two, it’s a third option which I don’t think I’ve ever seen before where the time machine basically just rewrites the rules of the universe. Everyone knows about the pseudo time travel, but not really time travel technology and so no one really has any advantage over anyone else. So it ends up just being a John Wick style action movie where everyone has access to time travel, so it kind of cancels itself out. It’s really unclear why the technology even needs to be in the story, or what it adds to the story.

          Christopher Nolan has a bit of a tendency to make complicated movies, and he seems to think that that’s the same thing as making good movies. Sometimes that works like in Inception, and other times you get just a weird complicated mess that doesn’t really have anything to say for itself.

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            My favorite part of that movie was the last half hour where they’re just like “fuck it, we’ll just get special ops guys to shoot everything.”

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            My cousin made a movie that was ostensibly about time travel, but the kicker at the end was that it was a group of people fucking with a rich person to make them think time travel was possible in order to scam him. I hated the movie until the ending because I think time travel is such a worn-out and lazy sci-fi trope.

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        8 hours ago

        Whatever you do before you step into the backwards tine machine, make sure you don’t feel like you just took a shit.

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        A linear story is split in two parts.

        The black and white sections explain Leonard’s backstory and show that he’s willing to lie to himself to be happy just like his wife was willing to lie to him because she was unhappy.

        The color section is revealing the consequences of Teddy using Leonard, but also Leonard’s willingness to lie to himself.

        The special edition DVD had it recut in a linear fashion. It works both ways… linear is a standard detective story without much depth. Recut, it’s a compelling story about Truth and consequences