• TRBoom@lemmy.zip
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    15 hours ago

    You can’t train ai on ai output. It causes degradation on the newly trained model.

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      15 hours ago

      First: that’s wrong, every big LLM uses some data cleaned/synthesized by previous LLMs. You can’t solely train on such data without degradation, but that’s not the claim.

      Second: AI providers very explicitly use user data for training, both prompts and response feedback. There’s a reason businesses pay extra to NOT have their data used for training.

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          8 hours ago

          I mean - yeah, it is? This is a well-researched part of the data pipelines for any big model. Some companies even got into trouble because their models identified as other models, whose outputs they were trained on.

          It seems you have a specific bone to pick that you attribute to such training, but it’s just such a weird approach to deny pretty broadly understood results…

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              7 hours ago

              No, it doesn’t. Unless you can show me a paper detailing that literally any amount of synthetic data increases hallucinations, I’ll assume you simply don’t understand what you’re talking about.

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                7 hours ago

                what paper? no one in industry is gonna give you this shit, it’s literal gold

                academics are still arguing about it but save this and we can revisit in 6 months for a fat i told you so if you still care

                ai is dead as shit for anything that matters until this issue is fixed

                but at least we can enjoy soulless art while we wait for the acceleration