“well-balanced propotions” that’s comic.
I never noticed before that all girls are knock-kneed.
They are all the same
The second doesn’t have the coveted “thigh gap”, signaling that you are sufficiently anorexic. The third has the faintest shadow of muscle definition in her biceps and calves. The fourth remembered to wear socks, a thing only tall people do
Not entirely. But when you live in an ethnically homogeneous society you notice more subtle differences in people.
when you live in an ethnically homogeneous society
Japan isn’t ethnically homogeneous. Westerners simply aren’t interested in learning the history and social makeup of the island, or even acknowledge anyone lives outside Tokyo.
The Ainu, the Ryukyuans, and the Yamato are all distinct cohorts. And that’s before you get into the post-Meiji cultural divergences.
Is this from the book: The Incel’s Guide On Recognising Women?
Choose your Waifu
Ewww…
… and people get mad at me when I say this now bog standard, seemingly literally standardized anime art style is uninspired, boring, and fundamentally problematic.
True, my favorite manga all have a distinct art stile. But also a unique style in story telling and pacing.
I don’t think “people get mad” at that, so much as they get mad at you saying “turn off the anime, I hate the anime, don’t you realize everything in anime looks the same” when someone else is trying to enjoy something.
I mean, I don’t broadly say ‘all anime is bad, i hate all anime’.
I very much like a lot of anime, some of my favorite characters and plot lines in all of fiction are from animes and mangas.
It… just seems that a lot if anime has largely stylistically homogenized lately.
And a lot of that is because most anime is produced by a well oiled, unforgiving capitalist machine that optimizes for profit, not what I would call real creativity.
The exceptions where that is not the case… animes with more distinctive visual styles… tend to be a pretty decent indicator the overall show is better, in aspects beyond just art style.
Oh, and, I am always going to, on at least one level, judge people based on their taste in art, and also judge art based on itself.
Its fine, broadly speaking, for people to like things I don’t.
Its also fine, broadly speaking, for me to think that people who enjoy art that I find boring, uninteresting, … to themselves be boring and uninteresting, to having boring and uninteresting taste.
Its not really that hard to walk the line between objective critique and analysis, and subjective preference… if you are honest with yourself, and take care to deliniate these things when talking about them.
You are more than your consumer preferences.
That has been my problem with many Animes for many years. There is a boring sameness in many designs that just drive me away.
Unrelated: did you know that the term “bog standard” comes from the term “box standard” which means, essentially, vanilla. No modifications or additions, just the basic version in the box. This used to be on the boxes for things people bought.
Now it basically means the same thing but to a none native speaker bog standard would likely not make much sense, where box standard has the context in the term.
I genuinely did not know that.
Makes complete sense though!
… and yes, English is a ridiculous nonsense language, we can and routinely do things like verb(ify) nouns, we have tons of idioms and slang that well… barely even make sense to many native speakers… we have tons of homophones like threw through, their there they’re… etc…
Just take those exact characters, give them different hair colors, match the personality to the hair color, boom you got a slice of life show that has a strong first season but then fades in quality and takes a weird turn in season 2+3 before a mediocre season 4 that fans try to justify but everyone really hates.
those hair colors, is this a DV-i reference or something
edit: the personalities match as well wtf
I really wish there was more evolution in anime. I used to like it a lot but I’ve grown to really dislike the art style because it’s so homogenous. I’m sure I’m missing out on great stories but I’m so damn bored of cookie cutter kawaii characters
I know that’s not every anime so no need to reply with the exceptions to the rule. The two most popular styles are “generic anime” (this) and “chibi anime” (creepy/gross)
Afaik the manga art style evolved in the first place because it’s very economic, particularly with facial expressions, and allows pumping out thick volumes of comics every week.
If you’re looking for more unique styles of anime, try out jojo’s bizarre adventure or dorohedoro. Both have quite a unique drawing style (for anime) and world building
Mahou shoujo Madoka magika is one fantastic story. And only 12 episodes or 2 movies (they are the same, just less OP/EDs).
I googled it and visually it looks like…everything else
Well it’s kinda half meant to, it’s a magical girl genre subversion
Go in blind, push through the first movie. It is worth it.
Yeah but that’s what I’m saying, I dislike the generic aesthetic enough that it takes away most of the enjoyment. If I was neutral on that it’d be no big deal, but the story is only part of visual media
There is a third original movie and they are making a 4th original. They’re was also a size anime loosely based on the mobile game.
Third movie was really weird.
Maybe it was the crazy subtitles I had when it came out, but I didn’t like it as much as the original.
Why are they all pigeon-toed?
You accidentally double posted, but yes, that is uh… odd.
Bent in knees are cutesy as a pose, but as a fundamental skeletal attribute, they’re … kinda problematic.
Ah whoops!
Just helping you from tripping over yourself.
=P
that’s what “athletic” means?
Don’t forget to give the eyes 10x the surface area of what’s biologically possible
In a lot of Asia, youth is seen as attractive
Human eyeballs are generally all the same size, regardless of skull or body size.
Youth = small
Big eyes and small everything else therefore means cute
Art often exaggerates or interprets
Anime is art
Anime is also not a new medium at all in Japanese, and now global culture, and has had a lot of time to evolve
I’m not defending it, just explaining it, in case people don’t understand, because this is a long-standing and very common complaint/criticism
Additionally, asia has the focus more on the eyes, why westerners more on the mouth. Is what they say.
But we could have like, a whole anime done in the style of Ukiyo-E, for characters design style motifs, for facial and body proportions…
You could mock up a 3D model and cel shade these to work out how they’d work from different angles.
This is certainly an exaggerated interpretation of reality.
It is also certainly Japanese.
These were also largely seen as depictions of beautiful, desirable people.
Here, this one’s from 1932,
The eyes are getting bigger, but noses still exist, the facial proportions are actually pretty close to realistic, if not just completely realistic, unlike in the modern standard anime style.
I dunno, I guess the modern standard anime style is just much much more neotenous (oversized heads, relatively oversized eyes, relatively undersized/unemphaszed noses) because it is meant to appeal primarily to small children, who are themselves neotenous?
Whereas the consumer base for Ukiyo-E would have been primarily adults?
because it is meant to appeal primarily to small children
That notion is Disneys fault. East-asians usually see comic juat as a distinct art type, for grown-ups too.
Manga’s and therefore anime’s art style evolved to be drawn quickly and cheaply. A ukiyo-e anime would be expensive as hell.
Well, if you did the exact same production process, yes, but as I posited, you could just 3d render the whole thing, or speed up production with basically 3d blocked out scenes and then basically do rotoscoping off of that, to add more flair or details where its worth it.
Its… not like cel shaded video games have not been a thing for a while, its not like 3d rendered animes have not been a thing for a while.
I’m vaguely sure the face expressions would still require a lot of redrawing, for which the manga style is particularly optimized. Plus, the detailed clothing would require plenty of animation of its own.
Basically, if it were feasible, someone would probably have already made it.
One of the earliest “modern” manga artists got influenced by the large eyes of disney and other western comics and shows
And others adapted itAh, thats a very good point!
And the stylistic intermingling has certainly gone both ways a bit, and then more recently, quite a lot.
Now we have like, basically hyperrealism done on anime proportions, the kind of AI autogen art style, that I would basically call ‘uncanny valley with high production value.’
Upsetting.
Aliita, Battle Angel.
“Biologically possible”, I mean, quite a few animals have eyes taking up a ton of their headspace. Owls for starters.
… Unless you are planning on hybridizing an owl and a human, in pursuit of growing your own GMO Waifu…
I think we can safely assume the scope of the context is ‘a human being’.
Jokes on you, artist “GeGeGek” nearly perfected that already.
Well shit.
… ahem.
Ain’t that a hoot.
You’re not?
No, unfortunately I lack the requisite knowledge expertise and mad scientist lair level of funding, and I also possess a moral compass.
That’s the rule for anime boobs
Oh really? Have you ever seen a person in the shape of a rhomboid?
Your mother was a rhomboid
MY mother was a rhomboid, you insensitive clod
And your father smelt of irregular polyhedrons
I think this would be incrementally less ridiculous if they hadn’t, presumably, scaled the images causing them all to be the same size/height on the page.
Classic Double with Cheese for me!
But those are the same picture…
No. They are very much not. All are rather fit though.
If by “fit” you mean slim. None of these women look like they work out
Thry’re like 3% different.
I feel like they are actually different body types as opposed to weight differences. That being said they are still narrow. But that’s not my point.
Yep, I’m afraid Gladaed is right; definitely different pictures. When she posed for the sketches, she did something different with her arms each time. She sometimes changed her expression too. Oh, and one day she wore a shorter shirt.
They all seem to be suffering from the same rather pronounced internal hip rotation.
Yes, what we rudely used to call knock-kneed
Good job, Creed. Corporate has a new assignment for you, though.
I think, they miscounted. It’s actually 4 billion body types, not just 4.
thought the title said booty types, I am slightly disappointed (in myself)
