• m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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    Rookie mistake, dude didn’t use the unlimited PTO strategy which makes people second-guess how many days they can reasonably take off before it’s deemed abusive.

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    23 hours ago

    Likely troll but here’s my response.

    I love Mary Brown’s Chicken but if I’m eating it five days a week, every week, that’s not gonna go well for me.

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      Personally I agree with David Mitchell.

      As long as you’re doing the job I think it’s utterly unreasonable that they also have in the contract that I I’m not allowed to be miserable. Unless the job is a super interesting government job that gets me access to area 51, pays fabulously well, and includes a company Lamborghini then I’m sorry, but I’m not prepared to really care about it.

      Fortunately I work for a French company who’s managers understand that me not actively burning the business down, is about as much of respect as they’re ever going to get.

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      I don’t know if this is satire or rage bait but ironically it’s almost certainly a UK individual as he refers to them as “Bank holidays” and the 28 days is only about 8 above the statutory minimum of 20 + bank holidays.

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        The employer must offer a minimum of 28 days for full time workers but bank holidays and other company shutdowns can count towards that. It’s a bit more flexible that way, it means it doesn’t matter which public holidays (if any) your company observes everyone gets the same minimum time off. It also allows situations like my company where our only UK office is in Scotland but UK employees still follow English holidays instead.

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          Yup and with there usually being 8 bank holidays in a year, that’s where the extra 8 comes from.

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        20 is the legal minimum in the UK? Sheesh. In my current job, I had to negotiate for a 3rd week (15 days instead of 10, the regular two days off don’t count as vacation days that week).

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          We also have public holidays (We call them all Bank Holidays for historical reasons, but it’s things like Christmas, Easter and a couple of others), there’s usually 8 in a year and that’s on top of your 20 days.

          Employers can make you work a bank holiday, you just get another day off instead. So really it’s 28 days holiday per year, with 8 of them being the public ones that you may or may not have to work.

          My employer gives us 30 + the Bank Holidays, then we got took over by an American firm which ironically introduced unlimited PTO.

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            I get Christmas and Thanksgiving day off, and having to listen to the boss bitch about those days almost makes it not worth it.

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          Yep. Around here we like to get a hotel room on the beach and stay there a few days. Maybe go a little ways down the coast to a different town.

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          I have no idea, I assume so given it’s using the word “vacation” which is predominantly an American term that they do and that the very concept is just less popular since they typically get much fewer “vacation” days, they probably try to make the most of their time off.

          I have no clue though, I’m just making shit up at this point.

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            You’re on the right track I think. I’ll just add that staycations are fairly popular here because we’re too fucking tired to go anywhere on the few days we have off.

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    2 days ago

    Could not tell you. Satire? Rage bait? Completely serious CEO mindset? No idea. All completely possible and just as likely. Coin flip.

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      The poster’s name is the screengrab is “The weirdest CEO of a recruit…” - so I’m voting for satire personally. I do see your point, I am just feeling like a pedant this morning.

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    I’m giving all my belongings to charity. But I don’t expect them to actually take any of it. I’m so generous like that. Praise me for being so generous!

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    This can be read two ways. One is to expect the workers to love their job. The other is that the CEO should thrive to make the work experience so good that people don’t want to be parted from their job.

    So it can be read as an admission that he has failed so far to make the work environment as good as it can be.

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      At a truly great job the boss is happy you’re going to go spend a week off for your friend’s wedding or that you’re finally getting to see a country you’ve always wanted to. They know that you’ll come back rested and be better of a worker for having had time off

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        And a truly terrible boss is mad you’re using the benefits provided instead of donating those benefits to “the company”. And also knows when you come back from that week off, you’ll be regretting having to work for them and considering finding someone else to slave for.

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      One is to expect the workers to love their job.

      Honestly, loving one’s job doesn’t mean never needing a break. Working Class jobs pay because they are hard work that you need to pay someone to do. Whether or not you enjoy the work doesn’t change the fact that it is hard work.

      I am extremely privileged with my job. I don’t get paid as well as my counterparts elsewhere but the personality and leadership style of my superiors has kept me here. I don’t expect I’d be able to do what I do how I do it anywhere else. Considering all this, I wouldn’t say I love my job. There are parts that are tedious and unpleasant. However, I do like my job. Even the parts I like are challenging and can be exhausting. I still need a break occasionally.

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      The way I read it is a “task failed successfully” situation. He did suceeded in making a work place with good PTO policies and people do actually use them (meaning staffing levels are confortable for the workload). However, his mindset is stuck in linked-in poster / grind mode and can not fathom that his employees dont want to be at work as much as he does.

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        It’s got to be because that’s way too many days off in the US and in other countries that have this many days off have legal requirements to use up your allotted time off.

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          Not necessarily force you legally to use all, but force the employer to allow you to use them all

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            If I don’t take it all by November, my manager starts getting on me about it because it’s looks like he’s working me too hard. Coming from the usa, we’re I had 10 days annually, I’m finding it tricky to use all 30 here. This isn’t a complaint! Many of my colleagues take it all at once, in July, because that’s the German rules (Spain if flying, Croatia if driving). I take 6 week trips thought the year. It’s fantastic!

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        That is the $64 question. It might be, but on the other hand, CEOs are as disconnected from reality, they might actually believe that.

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          Bank holiday suggests it’s UK, and we have legal requirement for 28 days holiday pro-rated per year. If staff don’t book it, the employer has to allocate it. So it is satire.

          If it was from a USian, I wouldn’t be able to tell.

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      I think it’s fake, but if you made a ton of money as a high-paid CEO, you probably wouldn’t mind working long hours. Cuz you know that you won’t be there for the next 40 years or 50 years. Milk it while you can, right?

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    Between annual leave and public holidays, I get 31 days a year off. Four weeks leave, so 20 days, then 11 public holidays.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemony#Media_and_communications_studies

    Adopted from the work of Gramsci and Stuart Hall, in media studies and cultural studies hegemony refers to individuals or concepts that become most dominant in a culture. Building on Gramsci’s ideas, Hall stated that the media is a critical institution for furthering or inhibiting hegemony.

    Communications studies scholars have argued that in the praxis of hegemony, imperial dominance is established by means of cultural imperialism, whereby the leader state (hegemon) dictates the internal politics and the societal character of the subordinate states that constitute the hegemonic sphere of influence, either by an internal, sponsored government or by an external, installed government. The imposition of the hegemon’s way of life—an imperial lingua franca and bureaucracies (social, economic, educational, governing)—transforms the concrete imperialism of direct military domination into the abstract power of the status quo, indirect imperial domination. …

    Culturally, hegemony also is established by means of language, specifically the imposed lingua franca of the hegemon (leader state), which then is the official source of information for the people of the society of the sub-ordinate state. Writing on language and power, Andrea Mayr says, “As a practice of power, hegemony operates largely through language.” In contemporary society, an example of the use of language in this way is in the way Western countries set up educational systems in African countries mediated by Western languages.

    this comes to mind, basically the kind of thinking in the OP represents a kind of corporate / capitalist hegemonic perspective - employers want you to sacrifice everything for them, ideally at any cost to your own health, liberty, etc., and there is a notion that if you align with those values you are a good worker - you should want to work all the time, you should feel bad for taking paid leave, etc.

    This is in opposition to the kind of economic violence and desperation that faces wage workers - no Walmart store employee is being told they need to want to come in to work and not take paid leave, because those workers are already desperate for their wages and are probably relying on government aid programs to bridge the gap in their wages to pay for food.

    Instead, in contexts where workers are not desperate and under immediate threat of losing shelter and food is where you find this kind of hegemonic messaging is so strong - the white collar employees who come into offices are the ones who are being made to feel guilty for taking paid leave, they are the ones who are expected to show up to work happy and self-motivated, and to want to be at work every day, to work in the evenings and over weekends without pay, etc. - that’s hegemony, it operates through acceptance of a system of beliefs and values, and through self-regulation (rather than direct threats).

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        is your point that brainwashing is more humane than a gun to the head? I’m not sure that’s the best take-away, I wouldn’t want to give the wrong impression that hegemony is primarily humanistic compared to more violent forms of imperialism … Hegemony is more like self-harm propaganda, scams, and other malicious belief systems - it’s just a form of power and control, and is no less coercive … remember that the consequences of going against hegemony is often punishment, the alternative to accepting brainwashing is to have the gun to your head (if you don’t cut it in an office environment, the alternative is desperate wage work).

        Even when you don’t fully endorse hegemony, you still behaviorally go along to avoid punishment, the self-regulation is cheaper and easier for those in power.

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      Its so wild because if you have motivated workers (my experience is from software development) you’re going to produce so much more and better products, responding to problems so much faster. But if people have to act motivated it’s way worse than even having unmotivated workers.

      My bet is on middle & top management having absolutely zero empathy, so they cannot understand the difference.

      Maybe they survive because predatory companies are not that liable to laws in todays society, but if they were, more humane companies would roll them over in productivity and quality. Or so I think.