• Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca
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    Mamdani told a heckler that he wanted him to be able to afford to live in New York as well.

    A pastor who asked Trump to have empathy for people he doesn’t like, was attacked by the entire political movement.

    When they say culture war, that is what they want winning and the realization really sucks.

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    I love how upset the old guard is about Mamdani. Fuck every single one of them.

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      it also got the gop panties in a wad, and they colluded with the old guard dnc to derail his campaign. it tells you they are one in the same, hence a uniparty.

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      Inviting them to have a seat at the table can send them into a tailspin. It’s kind of funny how they pretend to be the adults in the room while doing so.

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    I decide to just be glad about him winning. Neither over- nor underwhelmed. Hopeful but not blue-eyed. And may it have a knock-on effect on other Dems.

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    I give lemmy 365 days, tops, until we utterly despise the man for making political compromises.

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      I guess. But I still admire Bernie and AOC, so what do I know?

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      that’s the way. not ironically or sarcasm. leaders aren’t our allies, they are intrinsically antagonistic to the public.

      we must elect who we will fight against. then keep the pressure on them.

      might elaborate later. can’t write an essay rn.

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          Oh jesus christ.

          Cant yall motherfuckers chill out?

          I get it. You would love to live in a utopia where nobody ever, ever, ever, tries to grasp for power. So would I.

          But… come on. Reality is a sonofabitch. And maybe you should try and live in it every now and again.

          At no point will we ever experience someone not trying to grasp at the roots of power.

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            Yeah, but we could live in a society where those people grasping for power just for the sake of power would be shunned and cast out. Cause that’s how it used to be according to historian and philosopher Rutger Bregman. Admittedly, that’s been some long time ago, but still.

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            Dad was always taken aback by people who lust for “power”. LOL, he was mad at people who designed parking lots to herd us around!

            But I get it. A leader has to have some bit of narcissism to say, “I can do this. I’m smart and capable enough to take the reigns.” Comes with the job.

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      I’ve already seen comments here that say he’s toxic, simply because he’s a politician.

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        Those people aren’t of voting age yet, so let them cry about it. When they grow up- they’ll see how it works.

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        Had a pretty good government teacher in high school. Scored one of the only D grades I every got in life. (Unthinkable!) But she really nailed how politics work IRL. Not even realpolitik, merely, “This is how Congressmen live and operate. Here are the benefits and powers of their position.” Nothing partisan either! Eye opening.

        Raise your hands if you know the word “franking” and what it implies. :)

        Other great points were that money doesn’t mean the same thing to them as it does us. (SEE: Franking.) Need a new suit? Tailors will line up to make you one for free! “We serve the best of the best!” Need a table at a high-end restaurant? “Of course we have room ma’am! On the house!”

        I am hardly concerned with US Congresses’ pay. They get plenty of benefits.

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    What are the feelings on his margin of victory though? Finally folks had the option to vote for a real progressive, but in New York of all places he barely made it. That does not bode well for progressives elsewhere, no? Or do y’all think this is the first step of a sea change? (Not American, and just curious how Americans look at this)

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      9% is not barely, thats a pretty big margin, although its not as big as people like. plus cumuo had tons of funding for him, with “PR” and familiarity.

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      He beat Cuomo by almost 10% in spite of all the things mentioned in the post. That’s the opposite of “barely made it” and thus a GREAT sign for progressives.

      And before you mention that Adams won his general election by a bigger margin: he was only running against that lunatic Sliwa and had the entire establishment on his side, so a blowout was pretty much a given the moment he barely eked out a win in the primaries with TONS of assistance.

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        Ah, I meant barely an absolute majority. From what I understand, Cuomo shouldn’t have been a serious contender either. But I guess in the current landscape he’s a middle of the road kinda guy…

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          From what I understand, Cuomo shouldn’t have been a serious contender either.

          That’s the rub: your understanding of just how massive and powerful the establishment apparatus he was up against is appears to be woefully lacking.

          But I guess in the current landscape he’s a middle of the road kinda guy

          And much more importantly, the guy that the establishment overwhelmingly favors. That’s the REAL challenge much more than Cuomo himself.

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            So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks? Somehow, I expected better of New York ers. Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge, in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout…

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              So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks?

              In a word: yes.

              Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge

              And sometimes also win.

              in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout…

              Unlikely. With the possible exceptions of Chicago and the California statewide elections, New York is THE home of establishment Democrats. It’s where both Schumer and Jeffries come from, not to mention the NYT and countless Neoliberal “strategists” (read: propagandist apparatchiks)

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                Oh dear, so when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment… So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they’re up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance? (Thanks for your patience with me, it’s hard to get this kind of insights through international media)

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                  when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment

                  I mean the entire establishment, but since we’re talking about NY, the Democrat establishment is more relevant than the rest, yes.

                  So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they’re up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance?

                  In the NYC mayoral election? Without a doubt. Other than the Juliani-Bloomberg anomaly, there hasn’t been a Republican mayor of New York City since the 1960s.

                  Thanks for your patience with me, it’s hard to get this kind of insights through international media

                  No worries, it’s nice to explain things to someone who’s genuinely curious rather than desperately trying to cling to their pet misinformation for once 😁