Ah, I meant barely an absolute majority. From what I understand, Cuomo shouldn’t have been a serious contender either. But I guess in the current landscape he’s a middle of the road kinda guy…
So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks? Somehow, I expected better of New York ers.
Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge, in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout…
So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks?
In a word: yes.
Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge
And sometimes also win.
in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout…
Unlikely. With the possible exceptions of Chicago and the California statewide elections, New York is THE home of establishment Democrats. It’s where both Schumer and Jeffries come from, not to mention the NYT and countless Neoliberal “strategists” (read: propagandist apparatchiks)
Oh dear, so when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment… So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they’re up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance?
(Thanks for your patience with me, it’s hard to get this kind of insights through international media)
when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment
I mean the entire establishment, but since we’re talking about NY, the Democrat establishment is more relevant than the rest, yes.
So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they’re up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance?
In the NYC mayoral election? Without a doubt. Other than the Juliani-Bloomberg anomaly, there hasn’t been a Republican mayor of New York City since the 1960s.
Thanks for your patience with me, it’s hard to get this kind of insights through international media
No worries, it’s nice to explain things to someone who’s genuinely curious rather than desperately trying to cling to their pet misinformation for once 😁
Ah, I meant barely an absolute majority. From what I understand, Cuomo shouldn’t have been a serious contender either. But I guess in the current landscape he’s a middle of the road kinda guy…
That’s the rub: your understanding of just how massive and powerful the establishment apparatus he was up against is appears to be woefully lacking.
And much more importantly, the guy that the establishment overwhelmingly favors. That’s the REAL challenge much more than Cuomo himself.
So the establishment is that good in shaping opinions that an obvious asshat like Cuomo can be made into a decent option for that many folks? Somehow, I expected better of New York ers. Anyway it does mean that other progressives will be up against the same challenge, in places where I assume the establishment is even better in shaping opinions and turnout…
In a word: yes.
And sometimes also win.
Unlikely. With the possible exceptions of Chicago and the California statewide elections, New York is THE home of establishment Democrats. It’s where both Schumer and Jeffries come from, not to mention the NYT and countless Neoliberal “strategists” (read: propagandist apparatchiks)
Oh dear, so when you say establishment you mean specifically the Democrat establishment… So you think the main battle is within the democratic movement, and once they’re up against the whole Republican dominated media empire they actually have more of a chance? (Thanks for your patience with me, it’s hard to get this kind of insights through international media)
I mean the entire establishment, but since we’re talking about NY, the Democrat establishment is more relevant than the rest, yes.
In the NYC mayoral election? Without a doubt. Other than the Juliani-Bloomberg anomaly, there hasn’t been a Republican mayor of New York City since the 1960s.
No worries, it’s nice to explain things to someone who’s genuinely curious rather than desperately trying to cling to their pet misinformation for once 😁