• rozodru@pie.andmc.ca
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      15 hours ago

      I’m probably of the minority here but I really liked Jellico. yes he was stern, yes he was strict, but there was just something about him that I liked.

      • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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        He was stern and he was strict. But he was also given an almost impossible task with little time to prepare for it. He’s the only federation ship out there and don’t know how quickly the situation could break down, so he’s obviously need to ship at peak performance, which was an obtainable goal. For whatever his reasoning was, he ordered Riker to do something. But instead of bringing his concerns to Jellico, Riker simply disobeyed the orders to the point of being relieved of duty. But even then, when Jellico needed the best pilot on the ship for the mission, he put his hubris aside and personally asked Will, not ordered, him to do pilot the mission.

        Keep in mind, everything about that mission Jellico was correct. Sure he played mind games with the Cardassian attache, got Livingston removed and made Troi wear a proper uniform. He did even show softer sides at time like his son’s drawing, and tried to get to know the crew. But it was a tense situation and he did anything he could to be at maximum readiness.

        If anything Riker was kinda out of character. He’s quick to lash out at his subordinates if they don’t obey the chain of command but he was legitimately insubordinate.

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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          the thing about Jellico, that I don’t like is that he came into an established organizational structure and started changing it.

          Was he right? maybe. Sure. A lot of the changes he made, though weren’t necessarily right or wrong… they were different ways of being a leader. Should the senior officers adapted to Jellico? absolutely. But Jellico should have also adapted to the organizational structure he found himself in.

          Troi’s uniform, for example… he was right she should have been in a standard uniform… but his manner about expressing that was off. Partiularly as a temporary CO coming in as a substitute for Picard, because starfleet- probably at his recommendation- determined Ryker was unqualified. (and yes. Ryker was being a salty jackass.)

          His command of the D was on the order of days; and the changes he would make would take weeks to adjust to- and probably didn’t even get figured out before Jellico left.

          Even if it wasn’t because he wanted to flex on the command staff, it’s still stupid and indicative that he had no understanding of the existing organizational structure on the D. And any leader who comes into an established structure and starts demanding changes without understanding that structure is a bad leader. ESPECIALLY when their leadership is at best temporary.

          As far as the mission goes, yes. 100% he was right. but his leadership skills were still on the level of “Terrible retail manager”

      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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        10 hours ago

        I hated him when I first saw it, but over the years I’ve come to understand where he was coming from better. And he was absolutely right to get rid of that awful outfit Troi wore!