AFAIK there’s no official statement to that end. I would also rather guess this wasn’t “the plan” and he has just painted himself into a corner.
Think about how deconstructing themes is kinda the heart of GOT. NAFYIR = “No actually, fuck you - in reality:”
Oh Ned has this letter that will resolve the story in the end - NAFYIR queen bitch just throws it into the fire and nothing comes of it.
Oh this Rob guy, true son of a king, military success, he will be the savior - NAFYIR stab stab stab, that’s the end of that.
Oh OK but this Jon guy, turns out he’s also a true prince, and he’s showing tremendous leadership skills, i see where this is going - NAFYIR, “I dohwannit, she’s muh queen”.
I’m not a hater, but have to admit, GOT is kinda the edge lord party pooper of fantasy themes. Everything is, “no that doesn’t work because [devious thing happens]”. Don’t know if you remember the meme about not getting attached to any character, because then they will be killed, but that’s just another symptom of this same principle.
The problem is, you now come around with a “happy” ending were things are resolved, it’s like saying “but THIS, this works” - another edge lord comes around and says “no it wouldn’t work, because [devious thing]”, and you now lost your edge lord status.
Not sure if I’m communicating this well, trying to keep it short for this comment - but basically, try to think of any ending that resolves things in a non-boring way, and the ask yourself, “would people say this isn’t really GOT?”. Because yes, they probably would.
Anyways. All that is just my opinion, that whether it was planned or not, there simply is no way to an entertaining ending that fits the deconstructivist nature of GOT.
Eh, from what I’ve seen over the years I would think he lost control of his own narrative, and can’t find a satisfying way to get everything together. Or the series finale was actually reasonably close to the intended book ending, and he doesn’t feel like confirming that this pile of dung was really his.
I love how I seen loads of theories and when someone comes with this one wich is based on facts and reasonable many just dismisses it. Feels like shit to think that some characters flip and sadly they are fan favorites but we know D and D talked with him there’s no way he didn’t knew.
TBH if the same story had been told at the same pace as the first few seasons (and had actual consequences for dumb decisions), it could have worked.
I forced myself to rewatch it recently since someone at home wanted to and it certainly was a let down, but mostly because of how it was clearly rushed and turned into a Hollywood blockbuster. E.g. people charging into an army and surviving every time, which I know he was strongly against.
It felt like the broader strokes were there, but the show runners had no imagination of their own to make it flow properly, and might have kept more characters alive than needed to avoid upsetting fans instead of telling the story as it was meant to be told.
Any truth to that? It makes a whole lot of sense.
AFAIK there’s no official statement to that end. I would also rather guess this wasn’t “the plan” and he has just painted himself into a corner.
Think about how deconstructing themes is kinda the heart of GOT. NAFYIR = “No actually, fuck you - in reality:”
Oh Ned has this letter that will resolve the story in the end - NAFYIR queen bitch just throws it into the fire and nothing comes of it.
Oh this Rob guy, true son of a king, military success, he will be the savior - NAFYIR stab stab stab, that’s the end of that.
Oh OK but this Jon guy, turns out he’s also a true prince, and he’s showing tremendous leadership skills, i see where this is going - NAFYIR, “I dohwannit, she’s muh queen”.
I’m not a hater, but have to admit, GOT is kinda the edge lord party pooper of fantasy themes. Everything is, “no that doesn’t work because [devious thing happens]”. Don’t know if you remember the meme about not getting attached to any character, because then they will be killed, but that’s just another symptom of this same principle.
The problem is, you now come around with a “happy” ending were things are resolved, it’s like saying “but THIS, this works” - another edge lord comes around and says “no it wouldn’t work, because [devious thing]”, and you now lost your edge lord status.
Not sure if I’m communicating this well, trying to keep it short for this comment - but basically, try to think of any ending that resolves things in a non-boring way, and the ask yourself, “would people say this isn’t really GOT?”. Because yes, they probably would.
Anyways. All that is just my opinion, that whether it was planned or not, there simply is no way to an entertaining ending that fits the deconstructivist nature of GOT.
I think is less “painted himself into a corner”, and more that he’s wandered off, gotten lost, and doesn’t know how to get home.
I can appreciate the journey. Unfinished is preferable to finished poorly.
Eh, from what I’ve seen over the years I would think he lost control of his own narrative, and can’t find a satisfying way to get everything together. Or the series finale was actually reasonably close to the intended book ending, and he doesn’t feel like confirming that this pile of dung was really his.
I love how I seen loads of theories and when someone comes with this one wich is based on facts and reasonable many just dismisses it. Feels like shit to think that some characters flip and sadly they are fan favorites but we know D and D talked with him there’s no way he didn’t knew.
TBH if the same story had been told at the same pace as the first few seasons (and had actual consequences for dumb decisions), it could have worked.
I forced myself to rewatch it recently since someone at home wanted to and it certainly was a let down, but mostly because of how it was clearly rushed and turned into a Hollywood blockbuster. E.g. people charging into an army and surviving every time, which I know he was strongly against.
It felt like the broader strokes were there, but the show runners had no imagination of their own to make it flow properly, and might have kept more characters alive than needed to avoid upsetting fans instead of telling the story as it was meant to be told.
I don’t think anyone involved is going to come forward and admit it. But among the theories I’ve read, this one is the most believable.